Re: [Biofuel] Made our first biodiesel

2005-08-18 Thread Michael Redler

Hooray!!

Why do I feel like I'm at someones graduation?

:-)

MikeGarth  Kim Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Greetings,Just a quick note to let you know that Garth made our first biodiesel this weekend. It is sitting and drying in the sun today then it can go in my car. We are going to have to watch the amount of lye we use as our environment is extremely humid. We did have to process the virgin oil twice to get good quality. After 4 washes, the wash water is clear.Bright Blessings,Kim___Biofuel mailing listBiofuel@sustainablelists.orghttp://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.orgBiofuel at Journey to Forever:http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.htmlSearch the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages):http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/___
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Re: [Biofuel] Made our first biodiesel

2005-08-18 Thread Tom Irwin




Congratulations Folks,

Tom Irwin


From: Michael Redler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.orgSent: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 10:56:50 -0300Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Made our first biodiesel

Hooray!!

Why do I feel like I'm at someones graduation?

:-)

MikeGarth  Kim Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Greetings,Just a quick note to let you know that Garth made our first biodiesel this weekend. It is sitting and drying in the sun today then it can go in my car. We are going to have to watch the amount of lye we use as our environment is extremely humid. We did have to process the virgin oil twice to get good quality. After 4 washes, the wash water is clear.Bright Blessings,Kimsnip___
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Re: [Biofuel] Made our first biodiesel

2005-08-18 Thread Greg and April
Way To Go!

Greg H.

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From: Garth  Kim Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 6:52
Subject: [Biofuel] Made our first biodiesel


 Greetings,
 Just a quick note to let you know that Garth made our first biodiesel this
 weekend.  It is sitting and drying in the sun today then it can go in my
 car.  We are going to have to watch the amount of lye we use as our
 environment is extremely humid.  We did have to process the virgin oil
 twice to get good quality.  After 4 washes, the wash water is clear.
 Bright Blessings,
 Kim



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Re: [Biofuel] Made our first biodiesel

2005-08-18 Thread Keith Addison

Well done Kim!


Greetings,
Just a quick note to let you know that Garth made our first 
biodiesel this weekend.  It is sitting and drying in the sun today 
then it can go in my car.


What a thrill when you start up the motor!

We are going to have to watch the amount of lye we use as our 
environment is extremely humid.


Here too, at this time of year anyway. You'll find ways of keeping it 
dry when you measure it out. We buy it (KOH) in 20kg lots and then 
work inside a big sealed plastic bag to transfer it to 500g HDPE 
containers with wide mouths and bungs. No moisture. From those we 
measure it out as needed inside another plastic bag, with the scales 
adjusted for the weight of the bag. You get good at it.


We did have to process the virgin oil twice to get good quality. 
After 4 washes, the wash water is clear.


Green light, off you go.

All best

Keith



Bright Blessings,
Kim



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Re: [Biofuel] Made our first biodiesel

2005-08-18 Thread Garth Kim Travis

Greetings,
Actually, that should read well done Garth, but since he doesn't talk on 
this list, I will pass it on.  I passed making the biodiesel onto him 
because I just could not find time to do it.  I am currently researching 
and implementing natural feed programs for all our animals on the farm and 
figuring out how to grow everything that we need to go that route.  That 
and starting a soap business, so I passed.  Garth is much better at 
technical stuff than I am.


Was he supose to use KOH in the first batch?  He used NaOh, which was the 
problem.  For some reason, I can keep my KOH dry but I always have trouble 
with the NaOH.


Garth is going to try virgin oil again and see if he can't make it in one 
pass this time.


Bright Blessings,
Kim

At 10:05 AM 8/18/2005, you wrote:

Well done Kim!


Greetings,
Just a quick note to let you know that Garth made our first biodiesel 
this weekend.  It is sitting and drying in the sun today then it can go 
in my car.


What a thrill when you start up the motor!

We are going to have to watch the amount of lye we use as our environment 
is extremely humid.


Here too, at this time of year anyway. You'll find ways of keeping it dry 
when you measure it out. We buy it (KOH) in 20kg lots and then work inside 
a big sealed plastic bag to transfer it to 500g HDPE containers with wide 
mouths and bungs. No moisture. From those we measure it out as needed 
inside another plastic bag, with the scales adjusted for the weight of the 
bag. You get good at it.


We did have to process the virgin oil twice to get good quality. After 4 
washes, the wash water is clear.


Green light, off you go.

All best

Keith



Bright Blessings,
Kim



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Re: [Biofuel] Made our first biodiesel

2005-08-18 Thread Keith Addison

Greetings,
Actually, that should read well done Garth,


Okay, well done Garth! :-)

but since he doesn't talk on this list, I will pass it on.  I passed 
making the biodiesel onto him because I just could not find time to 
do it.  I am currently researching and implementing natural feed 
programs for all our animals on the farm and figuring out how to 
grow everything that we need to go that route.


We're also doing that. With very little land. In order to support 
more animals than we have now. Hm. (I agree with you about the Small 
Farms Library!)


That and starting a soap business, so I passed.  Garth is much 
better at technical stuff than I am.


Was he supose to use KOH in the first batch?  He used NaOh, which 
was the problem.  For some reason, I can keep my KOH dry but I 
always have trouble with the NaOH.


No, I just said it because we use KOH. People usually start with 
NaOH, though I'm not quite sure why. KOH is generally better, IMHO, 
certainly much easier. Maybe NaOH is easier to get, at the Red Devil 
level, but beyond that it's about the same, isn't it? A bit more 
expensive in practice if not in price. I should make all this a bit 
clearer at JtF, why torture newbies?


Use KOH if you like Kim, or rather if Garth likes. Be careful how 
much you use, see More about lye:

http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make2.html#lye

Garth is going to try virgin oil again and see if he can't make it 
in one pass this time.


Please let us know.

Best

Keith



Bright Blessings,
Kim

At 10:05 AM 8/18/2005, you wrote:

Well done Kim!


Greetings,
Just a quick note to let you know that Garth made our first 
biodiesel this weekend.  It is sitting and drying in the sun today 
then it can go in my car.


What a thrill when you start up the motor!

We are going to have to watch the amount of lye we use as our 
environment is extremely humid.


Here too, at this time of year anyway. You'll find ways of keeping 
it dry when you measure it out. We buy it (KOH) in 20kg lots and 
then work inside a big sealed plastic bag to transfer it to 500g 
HDPE containers with wide mouths and bungs. No moisture. From those 
we measure it out as needed inside another plastic bag, with the 
scales adjusted for the weight of the bag. You get good at it.


We did have to process the virgin oil twice to get good quality. 
After 4 washes, the wash water is clear.


Green light, off you go.

All best

Keith



Bright Blessings,
Kim



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