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Biodiesel is for life ? Yup, that one does it for me. It has enough word play to keep the grey matter going, and it says it all. Make 'em think,damnit ! Luc - Original Message - From: Andres Yver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 8:00 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Slogan On Thursday, September 23, 2004, at 08:18 PM, Bill Clark wrote: Biodiesel is for Life Nice! Short and sweet, works on many levels. It's the converse of that other really good one, fossil fuels are extinct. andres ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
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Biodiesel is for Life. Best one yet. Tim -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Legal Eagle Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 6:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Slogan Biodiesel is for life ? Yup, that one does it for me. It has enough word play to keep the grey matter going, and it says it all. Make 'em think,damnit ! Luc - Original Message - From: Andres Yver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2004 8:00 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Slogan On Thursday, September 23, 2004, at 08:18 PM, Bill Clark wrote: Biodiesel is for Life Nice! Short and sweet, works on many levels. It's the converse of that other really good one, fossil fuels are extinct. andres ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
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Good messages, M.P. I like them. P. Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Slogan If we have to connect wars with the fuel then how about this one: Don't fight for fuel: grow your Own Otherwise, how are these: Dinofuel is to Biofuel as Dead is to Living fossil fuel is to biofuel as dead is to living M.P.Singh Mr. Keith, Would junk the wars ( or warmongers) for ever make a better slogan for a sticker? Regards, Mani Fossils Fuels are Extinct While Biodiesel is Alive and Growing! Fossil Fuels are Extinct. Reminds me of my old War is Obsolete sticker ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
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Biodiesel is for Life Nice! Short and sweet, works on many levels. It's the converse of that other really good one, fossil fuels are extinct. andres ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
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Hi All, I haven't kept up on this thread so this may have already been suggested. Biodiesel is for Life As we say in Alabama, Keep on keepin' on. Bill Clark - Original Message - From: subramanian D.V [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 2:17 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Slogan Mr. Keith, Would junk the wars ( or warmongers) for ever make a better slogan for a sticker? Regards, Mani Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 9/18/04 2:20 PM, Jeff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fossils Fuels are Extinct While Biodiesel is Alive and Growing! Is this a better one? Jeff Still too long, but I'd put a bumper sticker on my Beetle TDI that just said Fossil Fuels are Extinct. That's good Ken! It hits home and it's a teaser, it'd get at least some people thinking about what isn't extinct, maybe starting to ask questions. Reminds me of my old War is Obsolete sticker -K Hasten the day when you can put one there saying Warmongers are Obsolete and it's just a superfluous statement of fact rather than a goal. Regards Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ - Do you Yahoo!? vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today! ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
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If we have to connect wars with the fuel then how about this one: Don't fight for fuel: grow your Own Otherwise, how are these: Dinofuel is to Biofuel as Dead is to Living fossil fuel is to biofuel as dead is to living M.P.Singh - Original Message - From: subramanian D.V [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 2004 12:47 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Slogan Mr. Keith, Would junk the wars ( or warmongers) for ever make a better slogan for a sticker? Regards, Mani Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 9/18/04 2:20 PM, Jeff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fossils Fuels are Extinct While Biodiesel is Alive and Growing! Is this a better one? Jeff Still too long, but I'd put a bumper sticker on my Beetle TDI that just said Fossil Fuels are Extinct. That's good Ken! It hits home and it's a teaser, it'd get at least some people thinking about what isn't extinct, maybe starting to ask questions. Reminds me of my old War is Obsolete sticker -K Hasten the day when you can put one there saying Warmongers are Obsolete and it's just a superfluous statement of fact rather than a goal. Regards Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ - Do you Yahoo!? vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today! ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
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Crisp and to the point Joe. I like it Mani , DVS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How's this? Save the Earth use Biodiesel Joe Original Message Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Slogan From: Ken Provost Date: Sun, September 19, 2004 6:18 pm To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 9/18/04 2:20 PM, Jeff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fossils Fuels are Extinct While Biodiesel is Alive and Growing! Is this a better one? Jeff Still too long, but I'd put a bumper sticker on my Beetle TDI that just said Fossil Fuels are Extinct. Reminds me of my old War is Obsolete sticker -K ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ - Do you Yahoo!? vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today! ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
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I ordered a few bumper stickers today, along those lines. One with a classic red, white and blue political look for Bush/Bin Laden 2004, another with the republican elephant logo saying, Keep al Qaeda Strong--Re-elect Bush, and a third WWJD? Vote Kerry/Edwards. Hoping people will get the point. Brian Mr. Keith, Would junk the wars ( or warmongers) for ever make a better slogan for a sticker? Regards, Mani Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 9/18/04 2:20 PM, Jeff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fossils Fuels are Extinct While Biodiesel is Alive and Growing! Is this a better one? Jeff Still too long, but I'd put a bumper sticker on my Beetle TDI that just said Fossil Fuels are Extinct. That's good Ken! It hits home and it's a teaser, it'd get at least some people thinking about what isn't extinct, maybe starting to ask questions. Reminds me of my old War is Obsolete sticker -K Hasten the day when you can put one there saying Warmongers are Obsolete and it's just a superfluous statement of fact rather than a goal. Regards Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ - Do you Yahoo!? vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today! ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
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I feel like printing up a few bumper stickers that say: Bush is Obsolete. snicker Maybe, I could print up a bumper sticker that says: Dick Cheney the Bush. snicker, snicker. I once read this antiwar poster that said We cannot continue to wage war like physical giants and Seek peace like intellectual pygmies. I feel like making a new poster base on that one that says: We cannot continue to fight terrorism by seeking reasons to attack any nation that has oil like a physical giant while trying to build coalitions like intellectual, go it alone, arrogant, lying pygmies. Maybe a tad long winded. Jeff From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Slogan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed on 9/18/04 2:20 PM, Jeff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fossils Fuels are Extinct While Biodiesel is Alive and Growing! Is this a better one? Jeff Still too long, but I'd put a bumper sticker on my Beetle TDI that just said Fossil Fuels are Extinct. That's good Ken! It hits home and it's a teaser, it'd get at least some people thinking about what isn't extinct, maybe starting to ask questions. Reminds me of my old War is Obsolete sticker -K Hasten the day when you can put one there saying Warmongers are Obsolete and it's just a superfluous statement of fact rather than a goal. Regards Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
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I already have some bumper stickers printed and on my Biodiesel machines I'm changing the Climate!! ask me how stimulates the comversation and right next to it, I have a powered by BioFuel sticker. I'll send some pics mel ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
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I already have some bumper stickers printed and on my Biodiesel machines I'm changing the Climate!! ask me how stimulates the comversation and right next to it, I have a powered by BioFuel sticker. Nice! Also a teaser - teasers work well when you get them right. I'll send some pics Trouble is, no Files section here. (The one at Yahoo was pretty useless anyway.) Send them to me direct, at [EMAIL PROTECTED], and I'll see what I can do. Regards Keith Addison List owner mel ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
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How's this? Save the Earth use Biodiesel Joe Original Message Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Slogan From: Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, September 19, 2004 6:18 pm To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 9/18/04 2:20 PM, Jeff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fossils Fuels are Extinct While Biodiesel is Alive and Growing! Is this a better one? Jeff Still too long, but I'd put a bumper sticker on my Beetle TDI that just said Fossil Fuels are Extinct. Reminds me of my old War is Obsolete sticker -K ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
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sack a city based dinosour, grow community owned renewable fuel or don't be a fossil, grow your own future ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
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Mr. Keith, Would junk the wars ( or warmongers) for ever make a better slogan for a sticker? Regards, Mani Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 9/18/04 2:20 PM, Jeff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fossils Fuels are Extinct While Biodiesel is Alive and Growing! Is this a better one? Jeff Still too long, but I'd put a bumper sticker on my Beetle TDI that just said Fossil Fuels are Extinct. That's good Ken! It hits home and it's a teaser, it'd get at least some people thinking about what isn't extinct, maybe starting to ask questions. Reminds me of my old War is Obsolete sticker -K Hasten the day when you can put one there saying Warmongers are Obsolete and it's just a superfluous statement of fact rather than a goal. Regards Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ - Do you Yahoo!? vote.yahoo.com - Register online to vote today! ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
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on 9/18/04 2:20 PM, Jeff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fossils Fuels are Extinct While Biodiesel is Alive and Growing! Is this a better one? Jeff Still too long, but I'd put a bumper sticker on my Beetle TDI that just said Fossil Fuels are Extinct. Reminds me of my old War is Obsolete sticker -K ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
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Fossils Fuels are Extinct While Biodiesel is Alive and Growing! Is this a better one? Jeff Still too long, but I'd put a bumper sticker on my Beetle TDI that just said Fossil Fuels are Extinct. That's good Ken! It hits home and it's a teaser, it'd get at least some people thinking about what isn't extinct, maybe starting to ask questions. Reminds me of my old War is Obsolete sticker -K Hasten the day when you can put one there saying Warmongers are Obsolete and it's just a superfluous statement of fact rather than a goal. Regards Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
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do you know whether jatropha plants can withstand frost? james - Original Message - From: Jonathan Flynn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 8:51 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Slogan Hey Biofuelers, Wow, lots of emails!! I saw this one and wanted to remove some misperceptions, though the exercise is quite valid if you think of coal rather than gasoline. there are two theories on the origin of petroleum, biological and abiotic. The biological origin would explain that most oil came from diatoms in the primordial sea. The diatoms (phytoplankters with a silicon shell) bloom close to the surface, die and sink to the bottom with a small drop of hydrocarbon which is their storage molecule. As these little things accumulate on the ocean floor, these hydrocarbons are heated and forced out into submarine caverns. Over billions of years present oil stores are accumulated. The reason for thinking that oil is biological in nature is because of optical qualities that petroleum right out of the ground exhibits. Since most oil exists 300 meters or deeper, where little life as we know it exists, one might assume that a biological origin such as this could explain its existence The abiotic theory postulates that petroleum is mostly a result of deep earth chemistry. In other words, our oil stores came with earth as a package deal, a result of so much hydrogen around, and other geochemical forces we know more about today. We also know that there are things that live out of the photic zone both in the ocean (hydrothermal vents) and even at crust depths of 300 meters or more. So an optic biological signature in the existing petroleum can also be explained. Near surface coal is probably a result of plant matter compaction over the billenia. Since we are measureable increasing the amount of CO2 and other damaging gases in out atmosphere, the best way to talk about the future of the carbon economy is to keep our use in the closed carbon cycle, where we use only atmospheric carbon for energy storage. This would all be oleaginous plant generated. Time to open up some organic jatropha tree orchards in the south, and lots of annual high oil producing crops in fallow land of the north. No need to continue subsidizing farmers to not grow stuff--we can use all of the closed cycle oil we can get. Jonathan From: Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/09/16 Thu AM 04:29:14 CDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] Slogan Ski until you die ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
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Hey Biofuelers, Wow, lots of emails!! I saw this one and wanted to remove some misperceptions, though the exercise is quite valid if you think of coal rather than gasoline. there are two theories on the origin of petroleum, biological and abiotic. The biological origin would explain that most oil came from diatoms in the primordial sea. The diatoms (phytoplankters with a silicon shell) bloom close to the surface, die and sink to the bottom with a small drop of hydrocarbon which is their storage molecule. As these little things accumulate on the ocean floor, these hydrocarbons are heated and forced out into submarine caverns. Over billions of years present oil stores are accumulated. The reason for thinking that oil is biological in nature is because of optical qualities that petroleum right out of the ground exhibits. Since most oil exists 300 meters or deeper, where little life as we know it exists, one might assume that a biological origin such as this could explain its existence The abiotic theory postulates that petroleum is mostly a result of deep earth chemistry. In other words, our oil stores came with earth as a package deal, a result of so much hydrogen around, and other geochemical forces we know more about today. We also know that there are things that live out of the photic zone both in the ocean (hydrothermal vents) and even at crust depths of 300 meters or more. So an optic biological signature in the existing petroleum can also be explained. Near surface coal is probably a result of plant matter compaction over the billenia. Since we are measureable increasing the amount of CO2 and other damaging gases in out atmosphere, the best way to talk about the future of the carbon economy is to keep our use in the closed carbon cycle, where we use only atmospheric carbon for energy storage. This would all be oleaginous plant generated. Time to open up some organic jatropha tree orchards in the south, and lots of annual high oil producing crops in fallow land of the north. No need to continue subsidizing farmers to not grow stuff--we can use all of the closed cycle oil we can get. Jonathan From: Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2004/09/16 Thu AM 04:29:14 CDT To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] Slogan Ski until you die I was thinking of some new slogans the other day. How does Stop our dependence on prehistoric plant matter: Use earth friendly fuels like biodiesel sound to the group. I thought of this after reading a blog in the discover magazine. I find 196,000 lbs of prehistoric plant matter yields 13 lbs of crude oil yields 6.2 lbs of gas, or one gallon very sobering. btw, After heating up my biodiesel and after it cooled down, it didn't get cloudy anymore. I think that I had homogenized some air in it and heating it up release the trapped air. Jeff http://www.discover.com/issues/apr-04/rd/discover-data/ Discover Data: What's in a Gallon of Gas? By Susan Kruglinski DISCOVER Vol. 25 No. 04 | April 2004 | Environment What's in a Gallon of Gas? Everyone knows fossil fuels come from long-dead plants, but Jeffrey Dukes wanted real numbers: How much plant matter does it take to make a gallon of gasoline? Dukes, a biologist, ecologist, and dabbler in biogeochemistry at the University of Massachusetts, discovered that such statistics are hard to find. So he decided to figure them out for himself and was surprised by the answers. A gallon of gas represents roughly 100 tons of plant matter, the amount that exists in 40 acres of wheat. Burning that gallon puts 20 pounds of carbon dioxide into the air. The annual consumption of gasoline in the United States, about 131 billion gallons of gas, is equivalent to 25 quadrillion pounds of prehistoric biomass and releases some 2.6 trillion pounds of carbon dioxide. The numbers are even more sobering when you consider all the fossil fuels-coal, natural gas, and oil-that people consume. Since 1751, roughly the start of the Industrial Revolution, humans have burned the amount of fossil fuel that would have come from all the plants on Earth for 13,300 years. We know that fossil-fuel use is not sustainable in the long run, Dukes says. This study will, I hope, encourage people to face up to the energy problem now. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable):
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He is off by 10^3. Kirk Jeff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking of some new slogans the other day. How does Stop our dependence on prehistoric plant matter: Use earth friendly fuels like biodiesel sound to the group. I thought of this after reading a blog in the discover magazine. I find 196,000 lbs of prehistoric plant matter yields 13 lbs of crude oil yields 6.2 lbs of gas, or one gallon very sobering. btw, After heating up my biodiesel and after it cooled down, it didn't get cloudy anymore. I think that I had homogenized some air in it and heating it up release the trapped air. Jeff http://www.discover.com/issues/apr-04/rd/discover-data/ Discover Data: What's in a Gallon of Gas? By Susan Kruglinski DISCOVER Vol. 25 No. 04 | April 2004 | Environment What's in a Gallon of Gas? Everyone knows fossil fuels come from long-dead plants, but Jeffrey Dukes wanted real numbers: How much plant matter does it take to make a gallon of gasoline? Dukes, a biologist, ecologist, and dabbler in biogeochemistry at the University of Massachusetts, discovered that such statistics are hard to find. So he decided to figure them out for himself and was surprised by the answers. A gallon of gas represents roughly 100 tons of plant matter, the amount that exists in 40 acres of wheat. Burning that gallon puts 20 pounds of carbon dioxide into the air. The annual consumption of gasoline in the United States, about 131 billion gallons of gas, is equivalent to 25 quadrillion pounds of prehistoric biomass and releases some 2.6 trillion pounds of carbon dioxide. The numbers are even more sobering when you consider all the fossil fuels-coal, natural gas, and oil-that people consume. Since 1751, roughly the start of the Industrial Revolution, humans have burned the amount of fossil fuel that would have come from all the plants on Earth for 13,300 years. We know that fossil-fuel use is not sustainable in the long run, Dukes says. This study will, I hope, encourage people to face up to the energy problem now. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ - Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
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Fossils Fuels are Extinct While Biodiesel is Alive and Growing! Is this a better one? Jeff From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Slogan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii ; format=flowed Hi Jeff It was discussed before (but please don't let that deter you!). It's here, in the archives, replies in the links above the message: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/33001/1 I think it was discussed before that too, but perhaps in another context, a quick search didn't turn it up. I was thinking of some new slogans the other day. How does Stop our dependence on prehistoric plant matter: Use earth friendly fuels like biodiesel sound to the group. I thought of this after reading a blog in the discover magazine. Stop our dependence on prehistoric plant matter: Use earth friendly fuels like biodiesel. It's too long, the words are too long. Sorry to say that, but that's the sad way it works. Go for a sound-byte, anything that demands a pause to consider or reflect won't work. This is what the excellent Misha said about it at SANET once (Sustainable Agriculture Network Discussion Group): PR and advertising are about encapsulating idiotically simple messages in sugared niblets that wedge themselves in your brain like prions. :-) Go for a prionic sugared niblet. Use Anglo-Saxon words, not Latin or Greek derived, no prefixes or suffixes. It's not easy, simplicity is no simple matter. I find 196,000 lbs of prehistoric plant matter yields 13 lbs of crude oil yields 6.2 lbs of gas, or one gallon very sobering. btw, After heating up my biodiesel and after it cooled down, it didn't get cloudy anymore. I think that I had homogenized some air in it and heating it up release the trapped air. Moisture. It'll clear in time, especially if you leave it in the sun. Or heat it to 45 deg C (113 deg F), and let it cool, do it twice if necessary. Heating it evaporates it off rather than settles it, so let it vent when it cools. Best Keith Jeff http://www.discover.com/issues/apr-04/rd/discover-data/ Discover Data: What's in a Gallon of Gas? By Susan Kruglinski DISCOVER Vol. 25 No. 04 | April 2004 | Environment What's in a Gallon of Gas? Everyone knows fossil fuels come from long-dead plants, but Jeffrey Dukes wanted real numbers: How much plant matter does it take to make a gallon of gasoline? Dukes, a biologist, ecologist, and dabbler in biogeochemistry at the University of Massachusetts, discovered that such statistics are hard to find. So he decided to figure them out for himself and was surprised by the answers. A gallon of gas represents roughly 100 tons of plant matter, the amount that exists in 40 acres of wheat. Burning that gallon puts 20 pounds of carbon dioxide into the air. The annual consumption of gasoline in the United States, about 131 billion gallons of gas, is equivalent to 25 quadrillion pounds of prehistoric biomass and releases some 2.6 trillion pounds of carbon dioxide. The numbers are even more sobering when you consider all the fossil fuels-coal, natural gas, and oil-that people consume. Since 1751, roughly the start of the Industrial Revolution, humans have burned the amount of fossil fuel that would have come from all the plants on Earth for 13,300 years. We know that fossil-fuel use is not sustainable in the long run, Dukes says. This study will, I hope, encourage people to face up to the energy problem now. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Slogan
It was discussed before (but please don't let that deter you!). It's here, in the archives, replies in the links above the message: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/33001/1 I think it was discussed before that too, but perhaps in another context, a quick search didn't turn it up. I was thinking of some new slogans the other day. How does Stop our dependence on prehistoric plant matter: Use earth friendly fuels like biodiesel sound to the group. I thought of this after reading a blog in the discover magazine. Stop our dependence on prehistoric plant matter: Use earth friendly fuels like biodiesel. It's too long, the words are too long. Sorry to say that, but that's the sad way it works. Go for a sound-byte, anything that demands a pause to consider or reflect won't work. This is what the excellent Misha said about it at SANET once (Sustainable Agriculture Network Discussion Group): PR and advertising are about encapsulating idiotically simple messages in sugared niblets that wedge themselves in your brain like prions. :-) Go for a prionic sugared niblet. Use Anglo-Saxon words, not Latin or Greek derived, no prefixes or suffixes. It's not easy, simplicity is no simple matter. I find 196,000 lbs of prehistoric plant matter yields 13 lbs of crude oil yields 6.2 lbs of gas, or one gallon very sobering. btw, After heating up my biodiesel and after it cooled down, it didn't get cloudy anymore. I think that I had homogenized some air in it and heating it up release the trapped air. Moisture. It'll clear in time, especially if you leave it in the sun. Or heat it to 45 deg C (113 deg F), and let it cool, do it twice if necessary. Heating it evaporates it off rather than settles it, so let it vent when it cools. Best Keith Jeff http://www.discover.com/issues/apr-04/rd/discover-data/ Discover Data: What's in a Gallon of Gas? By Susan Kruglinski DISCOVER Vol. 25 No. 04 | April 2004 | Environment What's in a Gallon of Gas? Everyone knows fossil fuels come from long-dead plants, but Jeffrey Dukes wanted real numbers: How much plant matter does it take to make a gallon of gasoline? Dukes, a biologist, ecologist, and dabbler in biogeochemistry at the University of Massachusetts, discovered that such statistics are hard to find. So he decided to figure them out for himself and was surprised by the answers. A gallon of gas represents roughly 100 tons of plant matter, the amount that exists in 40 acres of wheat. Burning that gallon puts 20 pounds of carbon dioxide into the air. The annual consumption of gasoline in the United States, about 131 billion gallons of gas, is equivalent to 25 quadrillion pounds of prehistoric biomass and releases some 2.6 trillion pounds of carbon dioxide. The numbers are even more sobering when you consider all the fossil fuels-coal, natural gas, and oil-that people consume. Since 1751, roughly the start of the Industrial Revolution, humans have burned the amount of fossil fuel that would have come from all the plants on Earth for 13,300 years. We know that fossil-fuel use is not sustainable in the long run, Dukes says. This study will, I hope, encourage people to face up to the energy problem now. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
