Re: [Biofuel] U.S. government fights to keep meatpackers from testing all slaughtered cattle for mad cow

2007-06-05 Thread Doug Younker
Ah Keith and the group,

Respectfully you don't understand that the testing for BSE is 
unscientific.  Kansas Representative Jerry Moran has told us so.
Doug, N0LKK
Kansas USA inc.

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Re: [Biofuel] U.S. government fights to keep meatpackers from testing all slaughtered cattle for mad cow

2007-06-05 Thread Doug Younker

Mike Weaver wrote:
 So why doesn't Creekstone just test in Canada or Mexico or anywhere the
 USDA doesn't have jurisdiction?
 
 Fedex.
Long ways to truck cattle to extract a sample.  Why would anyone in 
those countries risk it?  Now the USA is now bring people who have never 
previously step foot in the USA, to imprison them for violating US law.

Doug, N0LKK
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Re: [Biofuel] U.S. government fights to keep meatpackers from testing all slaughtered cattle for mad cow

2007-06-05 Thread Keith Addison
The beef dont show wasting because they go to market as 2 year olds. 
But you can bet your bippy the cattle and deer are vectors for the 
disease.
Some of these Malthusians say half the population has got to go.
Maybe this is the plan.
The British Queens husband, Prince Philip, said he wanted to be 
reincarnated as a deadly virus in order to contribute something to 
solve overpopulation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Philip,_Duke_of_Edinburghhttp:/ 
/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Philip,_Duke_of_Edinburgh

I think he was already incarnated as a virus this time round wasn't he?

If you stay much longer, you will go back with slitty eyes. -- 
Prince Philip speaking to a British student in Beijing during the 
British royal visit to China in 1986.

Such a red herring is the overpopupation non-issue anyway. Where 
there's real population pressure it's a symptom, not a cause.

Re: [Biofuel] Overpopulation Off Limits?
http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg57949.html

Good analysis:

Human Population - Global Issues
http://www.globalissues.org/EnvIssues/Population.asp

Best

Keith



Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Same problem in NH w/ deer.

  prob the highest incidence in North America is in the US
  Colrado Springs is a problem area. It spread into the local deer
  population.
 
  Mike Weaver wrote:
  So why doesn't Creekstone just test in Canada or Mexico or anywhere the
  USDA doesn't have jurisdiction?
 
  Fedex.
 
 
  the government doesnt want the extent of mad cow to be known as it is
  high
  in some areas.
 
 
  Keith Addison wrote:
  See also:
 
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6711179.stm
  BBC NEWS
  EU urged to relax farm feed rules
  1 June 2007
 The European Commission has been urged to lift the ban on using
 animal remains in farm feed. EU scientists are looking at the safety
 of using animal by-products...
 
  What safety is that? Some people never learn. - K
 
  --
 
  The EU is currently funding research on the impacts of feeding animal
  carcasses to other farm animals.
  U.S. government fights to keep meatpackers from testing all
  slaughtered cattle for mad cow
  The Associated Press
  Published: May 29, 2007
 
  WASHINGTON: The Bush administration said Tuesday it will fight to
  keep meatpackers from testing all their animals for mad cow disease.
 
  The Agriculture Department tests fewer than 1 percent of slaughtered
  cows for the disease, which can be fatal to humans who eat tainted
  beef. A beef producer in the western state of Kansas, Creekstone
  Farms Premium Beef, wants to test all of its cows.
 
  Larger meat companies feared that move because, if Creekstone should
  test its meat and advertised it as safe, they might have to perform
  the expensive tests on their larger herds as well.
 
  The Agriculture Department regulates the test and argued that
  widespread testing could lead to a false positive that would harm the
  meat industry.
 
  A federal judge ruled in March that such tests must be allowed. U.S.
  District Judge James Robertson noted that Creekstone sought to use
  the same test the government relies on and said the government didn't
  have the authority to restrict it. - A federal judge ruled in March
  that such tests must be allowed. The ruling was scheduled to take
  effect June 1, but the Agriculture Department said Tuesday it would
  appeal, effectively delaying the testing until the court challenge
  has played out.
 
  Mad cow disease, or bovine spongiform encephalopathy, is linked to
  more than 150 human deaths worldwide, mostly in Britain.
 
  Three cases of mad cow disease have been found in the United States.
  The first, in December 2003 in Washington state, was in a cow that
  had been imported from Canada. The second, in 2005, was in a cow born
  in Texas. The third was confirmed last year in an Alabama cow.
 
  Found at:
  http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/05/29/america/NA-GEN-US-Mad-Cow.ph
  p
 


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Re: [Biofuel] U.S. government fights to keep meatpackers from testing all slaughtered cattle for mad cow

2007-06-04 Thread Kirk McLoren
the government doesnt want the extent of mad cow to be known as it is high in 
some areas.
  

Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  See also:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6711179.stm
BBC NEWS
EU urged to relax farm feed rules
1 June 2007
The European Commission has been urged to lift the ban on using 
animal remains in farm feed. EU scientists are looking at the safety 
of using animal by-products...

What safety is that? Some people never learn. - K

--

The EU is currently funding research on the impacts of feeding animal 
carcasses to other farm animals.
U.S. government fights to keep meatpackers from testing all 
slaughtered cattle for mad cow
The Associated Press
Published: May 29, 2007

WASHINGTON: The Bush administration said Tuesday it will fight to 
keep meatpackers from testing all their animals for mad cow disease.

The Agriculture Department tests fewer than 1 percent of slaughtered 
cows for the disease, which can be fatal to humans who eat tainted 
beef. A beef producer in the western state of Kansas, Creekstone 
Farms Premium Beef, wants to test all of its cows.

Larger meat companies feared that move because, if Creekstone should 
test its meat and advertised it as safe, they might have to perform 
the expensive tests on their larger herds as well.

The Agriculture Department regulates the test and argued that 
widespread testing could lead to a false positive that would harm the 
meat industry.

A federal judge ruled in March that such tests must be allowed. U.S. 
District Judge James Robertson noted that Creekstone sought to use 
the same test the government relies on and said the government didn't 
have the authority to restrict it. - A federal judge ruled in March 
that such tests must be allowed. The ruling was scheduled to take 
effect June 1, but the Agriculture Department said Tuesday it would 
appeal, effectively delaying the testing until the court challenge 
has played out.

Mad cow disease, or bovine spongiform encephalopathy, is linked to 
more than 150 human deaths worldwide, mostly in Britain.

Three cases of mad cow disease have been found in the United States. 
The first, in December 2003 in Washington state, was in a cow that 
had been imported from Canada. The second, in 2005, was in a cow born 
in Texas. The third was confirmed last year in an Alabama cow.

Found at: 
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/05/29/america/NA-GEN-US-Mad-Cow.ph 
p

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Re: [Biofuel] U.S. government fights to keep meatpackers from testing all slaughtered cattle for mad cow

2007-06-04 Thread Mike Weaver
So why doesn't Creekstone just test in Canada or Mexico or anywhere the
USDA doesn't have jurisdiction?

Fedex.


 the government doesnt want the extent of mad cow to be known as it is high
 in some areas.


 Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   See also:

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6711179.stm
 BBC NEWS
 EU urged to relax farm feed rules
 1 June 2007
The European Commission has been urged to lift the ban on using
animal remains in farm feed. EU scientists are looking at the safety
of using animal by-products...

 What safety is that? Some people never learn. - K

 --

 The EU is currently funding research on the impacts of feeding animal
 carcasses to other farm animals.
 U.S. government fights to keep meatpackers from testing all
 slaughtered cattle for mad cow
 The Associated Press
 Published: May 29, 2007

 WASHINGTON: The Bush administration said Tuesday it will fight to
 keep meatpackers from testing all their animals for mad cow disease.

 The Agriculture Department tests fewer than 1 percent of slaughtered
 cows for the disease, which can be fatal to humans who eat tainted
 beef. A beef producer in the western state of Kansas, Creekstone
 Farms Premium Beef, wants to test all of its cows.

 Larger meat companies feared that move because, if Creekstone should
 test its meat and advertised it as safe, they might have to perform
 the expensive tests on their larger herds as well.

 The Agriculture Department regulates the test and argued that
 widespread testing could lead to a false positive that would harm the
 meat industry.

 A federal judge ruled in March that such tests must be allowed. U.S.
 District Judge James Robertson noted that Creekstone sought to use
 the same test the government relies on and said the government didn't
 have the authority to restrict it. - A federal judge ruled in March
 that such tests must be allowed. The ruling was scheduled to take
 effect June 1, but the Agriculture Department said Tuesday it would
 appeal, effectively delaying the testing until the court challenge
 has played out.

 Mad cow disease, or bovine spongiform encephalopathy, is linked to
 more than 150 human deaths worldwide, mostly in Britain.

 Three cases of mad cow disease have been found in the United States.
 The first, in December 2003 in Washington state, was in a cow that
 had been imported from Canada. The second, in 2005, was in a cow born
 in Texas. The third was confirmed last year in an Alabama cow.

 Found at:
 http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/05/29/america/NA-GEN-US-Mad-Cow.ph
 p

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Re: [Biofuel] U.S. government fights to keep meatpackers from testing all slaughtered cattle for mad cow

2007-06-04 Thread Kirk McLoren
prob the highest incidence in North America is in the US
  Colrado Springs is a problem area. It spread into the local deer population.

Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  So why doesn't Creekstone just test in Canada or Mexico or anywhere the
USDA doesn't have jurisdiction?

Fedex.


 the government doesnt want the extent of mad cow to be known as it is high
 in some areas.


 Keith Addison wrote:
 See also:

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6711179.stm
 BBC NEWS
 EU urged to relax farm feed rules
 1 June 2007
The European Commission has been urged to lift the ban on using
animal remains in farm feed. EU scientists are looking at the safety
of using animal by-products...

 What safety is that? Some people never learn. - K

 --

 The EU is currently funding research on the impacts of feeding animal
 carcasses to other farm animals.
 U.S. government fights to keep meatpackers from testing all
 slaughtered cattle for mad cow
 The Associated Press
 Published: May 29, 2007

 WASHINGTON: The Bush administration said Tuesday it will fight to
 keep meatpackers from testing all their animals for mad cow disease.

 The Agriculture Department tests fewer than 1 percent of slaughtered
 cows for the disease, which can be fatal to humans who eat tainted
 beef. A beef producer in the western state of Kansas, Creekstone
 Farms Premium Beef, wants to test all of its cows.

 Larger meat companies feared that move because, if Creekstone should
 test its meat and advertised it as safe, they might have to perform
 the expensive tests on their larger herds as well.

 The Agriculture Department regulates the test and argued that
 widespread testing could lead to a false positive that would harm the
 meat industry.

 A federal judge ruled in March that such tests must be allowed. U.S.
 District Judge James Robertson noted that Creekstone sought to use
 the same test the government relies on and said the government didn't
 have the authority to restrict it. - A federal judge ruled in March
 that such tests must be allowed. The ruling was scheduled to take
 effect June 1, but the Agriculture Department said Tuesday it would
 appeal, effectively delaying the testing until the court challenge
 has played out.

 Mad cow disease, or bovine spongiform encephalopathy, is linked to
 more than 150 human deaths worldwide, mostly in Britain.

 Three cases of mad cow disease have been found in the United States.
 The first, in December 2003 in Washington state, was in a cow that
 had been imported from Canada. The second, in 2005, was in a cow born
 in Texas. The third was confirmed last year in an Alabama cow.

 Found at:
 http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/05/29/america/NA-GEN-US-Mad-Cow.ph
 p

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Re: [Biofuel] U.S. government fights to keep meatpackers from testing all slaughtered cattle for mad cow

2007-06-04 Thread Mike Weaver
Same problem in NH w/ deer.

 prob the highest incidence in North America is in the US
   Colrado Springs is a problem area. It spread into the local deer
 population.

 Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   So why doesn't Creekstone just test in Canada or Mexico or anywhere the
 USDA doesn't have jurisdiction?

 Fedex.


 the government doesnt want the extent of mad cow to be known as it is
 high
 in some areas.


 Keith Addison wrote:
 See also:

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6711179.stm
 BBC NEWS
 EU urged to relax farm feed rules
 1 June 2007
The European Commission has been urged to lift the ban on using
animal remains in farm feed. EU scientists are looking at the safety
of using animal by-products...

 What safety is that? Some people never learn. - K

 --

 The EU is currently funding research on the impacts of feeding animal
 carcasses to other farm animals.
 U.S. government fights to keep meatpackers from testing all
 slaughtered cattle for mad cow
 The Associated Press
 Published: May 29, 2007

 WASHINGTON: The Bush administration said Tuesday it will fight to
 keep meatpackers from testing all their animals for mad cow disease.

 The Agriculture Department tests fewer than 1 percent of slaughtered
 cows for the disease, which can be fatal to humans who eat tainted
 beef. A beef producer in the western state of Kansas, Creekstone
 Farms Premium Beef, wants to test all of its cows.

 Larger meat companies feared that move because, if Creekstone should
 test its meat and advertised it as safe, they might have to perform
 the expensive tests on their larger herds as well.

 The Agriculture Department regulates the test and argued that
 widespread testing could lead to a false positive that would harm the
 meat industry.

 A federal judge ruled in March that such tests must be allowed. U.S.
 District Judge James Robertson noted that Creekstone sought to use
 the same test the government relies on and said the government didn't
 have the authority to restrict it. - A federal judge ruled in March
 that such tests must be allowed. The ruling was scheduled to take
 effect June 1, but the Agriculture Department said Tuesday it would
 appeal, effectively delaying the testing until the court challenge
 has played out.

 Mad cow disease, or bovine spongiform encephalopathy, is linked to
 more than 150 human deaths worldwide, mostly in Britain.

 Three cases of mad cow disease have been found in the United States.
 The first, in December 2003 in Washington state, was in a cow that
 had been imported from Canada. The second, in 2005, was in a cow born
 in Texas. The third was confirmed last year in an Alabama cow.

 Found at:
 http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/05/29/america/NA-GEN-US-Mad-Cow.ph
 p

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Re: [Biofuel] U.S. government fights to keep meatpackers from testing all slaughtered cattle for mad cow

2007-06-04 Thread Kirk McLoren
The beef dont show wasting because they go to market as 2 year olds. But you 
can bet your bippy the cattle and deer are vectors for the disease.
  Some of these Malthusians say half the population has got to go.
  Maybe this is the plan.
  The British Queens husband, Prince Philip, said he wanted to be reincarnated 
as a deadly virus in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Philip,_Duke_of_Edinburgh
   
  
Mike Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Same problem in NH w/ deer.

 prob the highest incidence in North America is in the US
 Colrado Springs is a problem area. It spread into the local deer
 population.

 Mike Weaver wrote:
 So why doesn't Creekstone just test in Canada or Mexico or anywhere the
 USDA doesn't have jurisdiction?

 Fedex.


 the government doesnt want the extent of mad cow to be known as it is
 high
 in some areas.


 Keith Addison wrote:
 See also:

 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/6711179.stm
 BBC NEWS
 EU urged to relax farm feed rules
 1 June 2007
The European Commission has been urged to lift the ban on using
animal remains in farm feed. EU scientists are looking at the safety
of using animal by-products...

 What safety is that? Some people never learn. - K

 --

 The EU is currently funding research on the impacts of feeding animal
 carcasses to other farm animals.
 U.S. government fights to keep meatpackers from testing all
 slaughtered cattle for mad cow
 The Associated Press
 Published: May 29, 2007

 WASHINGTON: The Bush administration said Tuesday it will fight to
 keep meatpackers from testing all their animals for mad cow disease.

 The Agriculture Department tests fewer than 1 percent of slaughtered
 cows for the disease, which can be fatal to humans who eat tainted
 beef. A beef producer in the western state of Kansas, Creekstone
 Farms Premium Beef, wants to test all of its cows.

 Larger meat companies feared that move because, if Creekstone should
 test its meat and advertised it as safe, they might have to perform
 the expensive tests on their larger herds as well.

 The Agriculture Department regulates the test and argued that
 widespread testing could lead to a false positive that would harm the
 meat industry.

 A federal judge ruled in March that such tests must be allowed. U.S.
 District Judge James Robertson noted that Creekstone sought to use
 the same test the government relies on and said the government didn't
 have the authority to restrict it. - A federal judge ruled in March
 that such tests must be allowed. The ruling was scheduled to take
 effect June 1, but the Agriculture Department said Tuesday it would
 appeal, effectively delaying the testing until the court challenge
 has played out.

 Mad cow disease, or bovine spongiform encephalopathy, is linked to
 more than 150 human deaths worldwide, mostly in Britain.

 Three cases of mad cow disease have been found in the United States.
 The first, in December 2003 in Washington state, was in a cow that
 had been imported from Canada. The second, in 2005, was in a cow born
 in Texas. The third was confirmed last year in an Alabama cow.

 Found at:
 http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/05/29/america/NA-GEN-US-Mad-Cow.ph
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