AW: [svg-developers] Announcement: Adobe to Discontinue Adobe SVG Viewer

2006-09-07 Thread Armin Mueller
I think it is a good thing that Adobe ends the SVGViewer, because everybody knows in the meantime that Adobe has a new technology Flex/Flash and SVG is competing to this. Now SVG has the possibility to grow to a nonpartisan standard which is not influenced by one company But the way Adobe tries

Re: [svg-developers] Announcement: Adobe to Discontinue Adobe SVG Viewer

2006-09-06 Thread nyem
I cannot find the announcement at adobe's website. Care to direct me to the right URL? So what's the alternative SVG viewer for IE? Can somebody make Opera as an IE plugin? Paton J. Lewis wrote: For more information on this decision and answers to questions about the discontinuation of

Re: [svg-developers] Announcement: Adobe to Discontinue Adobe SVG Viewer

2006-09-06 Thread Ronan Oger
There are rumours that IE8 will have native svg support. The rumour says that IE7 won't have it because it was too difficult and too late support it, but that a decision was made to support svg in IE8. This makes sense given that IE is slipping in rankings behind other implementations that do

Re: [svg-developers] Announcement: Adobe to Discontinue Adobe SVG Viewer

2006-09-06 Thread Sean
http://www.adobe.com/svg/viewer/install/ nyem wrote: I cannot find the announcement at adobe's website. Care to direct me to the right URL? So what's the alternative SVG viewer for IE? Can somebody make Opera as an IE plugin? Paton J. Lewis wrote: For more information on this decision

Re: [svg-developers] Announcement: Adobe to Discontinue Adobe SVG Viewer

2006-09-06 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi, folks- There is a FAQ associated with this announcement, but of course, it's in Web-unfriendly PDF. I'm forwarding on the text version for your information. Not only are they stopping support for the viewer, which is reasonable, but they are preventing anyone from distributing it other

Re: [svg-developers] Announcement: Adobe to Discontinue Adobe SVG Viewer

2006-09-06 Thread Chris Lilley
On Wednesday, September 6, 2006, 7:00:38 PM, Doug wrote: DS That said, we will need to transition to a non-ASV SVG environment, DS which stresses even more the need to code to standards rather than to a DS particular implementation. Thats always been true, but hopefully as a result of this

Re: [svg-developers] Announcement: Adobe to Discontinue Adobe SVG Viewer

2006-09-06 Thread ddailey
Another speculative muse in the category of looking on the bright side: a) more people will probably start to use Firefox and Opera b) Microsoft, sensing a loss of market share for IE, will decide to reprioritize their own native support for SVG, under the old more features means better

Re: [svg-developers] Announcement: Adobe to Discontinue Adobe SVG Viewer

2006-09-06 Thread Guy Morton
Anyone had any experience of converting SVG to flex? Clearly Adobe is hoping that's what will happen. Guy On 07/09/2006, at 3:00 AM, Doug Schepers wrote: Hi, folks- There is a FAQ associated with this announcement, but of course, it's in Web-unfriendly PDF. I'm forwarding on the text

Re: [svg-developers] Announcement: Adobe to Discontinue Adobe SVG Viewer

2006-09-06 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi, Ronan- Ronan Oger wrote: Yeah right, and compete with their own product? Doug, you are optimistic to a fault. Perhaps. But if you don't ask for something, you're unlikely to get it. This announcement from Adobe had a rather tentative tone in parts, suggesting to me that they might

Re: [svg-developers] Announcement: Adobe to Discontinue Adobe SVG Viewer

2006-09-06 Thread Sean
My concern with FF, is how slow it is with SVG over 300k. Hopefully within 1.5 years the issue will be solved. I tested it with the FF 2 beta 2, and mouseover events are still laboriously slow. I posted it as a bug back in January, but nothing. Ronan Oger wrote: There are rumours that IE8

Re: [svg-developers] Announcement: Adobe to Discontinue Adobe SVG Viewer

2006-09-06 Thread T Rowley
On 9/6/06 10:55 AM, Sean wrote: My concern with FF, is how slow it is with SVG over 300k. Hopefully within 1.5 years the issue will be solved. I tested it with the FF 2 beta 2, and mouseover events are still laboriously slow. I posted it as a bug back in January, but nothing. Have a bug #

[svg-developers] Announcement: Adobe to Discontinue Adobe SVG Viewer

2006-09-05 Thread Paton J. Lewis
Adobe has decided to discontinue support for Adobe SVG Viewer. There are a number of other third-party SVG viewer implementations in the marketplace, including native support for SVG in many Web browsers. The SVG language and its adoption in the marketplace have both matured to the point where

Re: [svg-developers] Announcement: Adobe to Discontinue Adobe SVG Viewer

2006-09-05 Thread Ronan Oger
Well, that settles it. at least it's official after all this time. It's just a shame they did not announce this 2 years ago. On Tuesday 05 September 2006 20:37, Paton J. Lewis wrote: Adobe has decided to discontinue support for Adobe SVG Viewer. There are a number of other third-party SVG

Re: [svg-developers] Announcement: Adobe to Discontinue Adobe SVG Viewer

2006-09-05 Thread Doug Schepers
Hi- Well, I can't say that this comes as a surprise, though it is a pity that they won't allow downloads after January 1, 2008 (as per their FAQ). This means that for SVG to continue to be viable on the Web, before that point there will need to be native IE support (possible) or a new viewer