Re: svn commit: r197969 - head/sys/conf

2009-10-18 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: 20091014185338.ga26...@alchemy.franken.de Marius Strobl mar...@alchemy.franken.de writes: : It would be really great if FreeBSD would distinguish between : LPC and real ISA so things like the ISAPNP code and ISA bus : front-ends of ATA, network and SCSI drivers etc wouldn't

Re: svn commit: r197969 - head/sys/conf

2009-10-15 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: ecc72cab-de06-4921-b228-1db72f8b9...@mac.com Marcel Moolenaar xcl...@mac.com writes: : : On Oct 14, 2009, at 9:44 PM, M. Warner Losh wrote: : This is also the source of my frustration with the thread, I think. I : don't think that Marcel understood this world view and

Re: svn commit: r197969 - head/sys/conf

2009-10-15 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: 200910150833.54252@freebsd.org John Baldwin j...@freebsd.org writes: : On Wednesday 14 October 2009 6:11:15 pm M. Warner Losh wrote: : In message: 200910141738.43910@freebsd.org : John Baldwin j...@freebsd.org writes: : : On Wednesday 14 October 2009

Re: svn commit: r197969 - head/sys/conf

2009-10-15 Thread John Baldwin
On Thursday 15 October 2009 10:59:10 am M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: 200910150833.54252@freebsd.org John Baldwin j...@freebsd.org writes: : On Wednesday 14 October 2009 6:11:15 pm M. Warner Losh wrote: : In message: 200910141738.43910@freebsd.org : John

Re: svn commit: r197969 - head/sys/conf

2009-10-15 Thread Jung-uk Kim
On Thursday 15 October 2009 11:18 am, John Baldwin wrote: On Thursday 15 October 2009 10:59:10 am M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: 200910150833.54252@freebsd.org John Baldwin j...@freebsd.org writes: : On Wednesday 14 October 2009 6:11:15 pm M. Warner Losh wrote: : In

Re: svn commit: r197969 - head/sys/conf

2009-10-14 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
On Oct 13, 2009, at 9:04 PM, M. Warner Losh wrote: : Does this mean that the memory cycles on the I/O bus isn't supported : for these architectures? : : Correct. Then it isn't an ISA bus. Of course it isn't an ISA bus. It's all LPC. Leaving the specialized embedded market aside, there's

Re: svn commit: r197969 - head/sys/conf

2009-10-14 Thread Warner Losh
On Oct 13, 2009, at 9:04 PM, M. Warner Losh wrote: : Does this mean that the memory cycles on the I/O bus isn't supported : for these architectures? : : Correct. Then it isn't an ISA bus. Of course it isn't an ISA bus. It's all LPC. Leaving the specialized embedded market

Re: svn commit: r197969 - head/sys/conf

2009-10-14 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
On Oct 14, 2009, at 10:39 AM, Warner Losh wrote: I can't be more clear than this. You keep ignoring me, and it is very frustrating. I'm not ignoring you. I'm still talking. You simply haven't convinced me. While it's possible (likely?) that I don't understand the issues, all you've achieved

Re: svn commit: r197969 - head/sys/conf

2009-10-14 Thread Marius Strobl
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 10:34:59PM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: ec2b1366-67f5-4021-a5a0-040d035ad...@mac.com Marcel Moolenaar xcl...@mac.com writes: : : On Oct 13, 2009, at 5:06 PM, M. Warner Losh wrote: : : In message: 2e290d8d-baf0-4e4e-a352-b00fafd9d...@mac.com

Re: svn commit: r197969 - head/sys/conf

2009-10-14 Thread John Baldwin
On Wednesday 14 October 2009 2:35:16 pm Marcel Moolenaar wrote: On Oct 14, 2009, at 10:39 AM, Warner Losh wrote: I can't be more clear than this. You keep ignoring me, and it is very frustrating. I'm not ignoring you. I'm still talking. You simply haven't convinced me. While it's

Re: svn commit: r197969 - head/sys/conf

2009-10-14 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
On Oct 14, 2009, at 1:45 PM, John Baldwin wrote: On Wednesday 14 October 2009 2:35:16 pm Marcel Moolenaar wrote: On Oct 14, 2009, at 10:39 AM, Warner Losh wrote: I can't be more clear than this. You keep ignoring me, and it is very frustrating. I'm not ignoring you. I'm still talking.

Re: svn commit: r197969 - head/sys/conf

2009-10-14 Thread John Baldwin
On Wednesday 14 October 2009 5:20:38 pm Marcel Moolenaar wrote: On Oct 14, 2009, at 1:45 PM, John Baldwin wrote: On Wednesday 14 October 2009 2:35:16 pm Marcel Moolenaar wrote: On Oct 14, 2009, at 10:39 AM, Warner Losh wrote: I can't be more clear than this. You keep ignoring me, and

Re: svn commit: r197969 - head/sys/conf

2009-10-14 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: 6b860a3c-c1f0-42a0-8ecb-3d41da698...@mac.com Marcel Moolenaar xcl...@mac.com writes: : : On Oct 14, 2009, at 1:45 PM, John Baldwin wrote: : : On Wednesday 14 October 2009 2:35:16 pm Marcel Moolenaar wrote: : On Oct 14, 2009, at 10:39 AM, Warner Losh wrote: : : I can't

Re: svn commit: r197969 - head/sys/conf

2009-10-14 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: 200910141738.43910@freebsd.org John Baldwin j...@freebsd.org writes: : On Wednesday 14 October 2009 5:20:38 pm Marcel Moolenaar wrote: : : On Oct 14, 2009, at 1:45 PM, John Baldwin wrote: : : On Wednesday 14 October 2009 2:35:16 pm Marcel Moolenaar wrote: : On

Re: svn commit: r197969 - head/sys/conf

2009-10-14 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: 200910141738.43910@freebsd.org John Baldwin j...@freebsd.org writes: : On Wednesday 14 October 2009 5:20:38 pm Marcel Moolenaar wrote: : : On Oct 14, 2009, at 1:45 PM, John Baldwin wrote: : : On Wednesday 14 October 2009 2:35:16 pm Marcel Moolenaar wrote: : On

Re: svn commit: r197969 - head/sys/conf

2009-10-14 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
On Oct 14, 2009, at 9:44 PM, M. Warner Losh wrote: This is also the source of my frustration with the thread, I think. I don't think that Marcel understood this world view and assumed that no mapping was needed and therefore orm was this horribly x86 specific code. Since I didn't understand

Re: svn commit: r197969 - head/sys/conf

2009-10-13 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: 200910112042.n9bkgrcq029...@svn.freebsd.org Marcel Moolenaar mar...@freebsd.org writes: : Author: marcel : Date: Sun Oct 11 20:42:26 2009 : New Revision: 197969 : URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/197969 : : Log: : Scan for option ROMs on i386 and amd64 only.

Re: svn commit: r197969 - head/sys/conf

2009-10-13 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
On Oct 12, 2009, at 10:22 PM, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: 200910112042.n9bkgrcq029...@svn.freebsd.org Marcel Moolenaar mar...@freebsd.org writes: : Author: marcel : Date: Sun Oct 11 20:42:26 2009 : New Revision: 197969 : URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/197969 : :

Re: svn commit: r197969 - head/sys/conf

2009-10-13 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Tue, Oct 13, 2009 at 08:59:42AM -0700, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: On Oct 12, 2009, at 10:22 PM, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: 200910112042.n9bkgrcq029...@svn.freebsd.org Marcel Moolenaar mar...@freebsd.org writes: : Author: marcel : Date: Sun Oct 11 20:42:26 2009 :

Re: svn commit: r197969 - head/sys/conf

2009-10-13 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Erik Trulsson wrote: ET (There might also be some motherboard out there that has ISA-slots and ET supports amd64-capable CPUs but one will have to look fairly hard to find ET one.) Oh, I would love to see at least a photo of such a beast ;-) (As for my experience, the

Re: svn commit: r197969 - head/sys/conf

2009-10-13 Thread Jung-uk Kim
On Tuesday 13 October 2009 04:42 pm, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote: On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Erik Trulsson wrote: ET (There might also be some motherboard out there that has ISA-slots and ET supports amd64-capable CPUs but one will have to look fairly hard to find ET one.) Oh, I would love to see at

Re: svn commit: r197969 - head/sys/conf

2009-10-13 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: d3b2832a-0d7a-4b61-aca1-dfc8ebc69...@mac.com Marcel Moolenaar xcl...@mac.com writes: : : On Oct 12, 2009, at 10:22 PM, M. Warner Losh wrote: : : In message: 200910112042.n9bkgrcq029...@svn.freebsd.org : Marcel Moolenaar mar...@freebsd.org writes: : : Author:

Re: svn commit: r197969 - head/sys/conf

2009-10-13 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
On Oct 13, 2009, at 10:32 AM, M. Warner Losh wrote: : Why? They should be scanned for on any system with a real isa bus... : : Other than i386, those are? So other than i386 and amd64, what systems use the isa device? I interpret the lack of answer as: none. isa(4) is usable on various

Re: svn commit: r197969 - head/sys/conf

2009-10-13 Thread Erik Trulsson
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 12:42:19AM +0400, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote: On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Erik Trulsson wrote: ET (There might also be some motherboard out there that has ISA-slots and ET supports amd64-capable CPUs but one will have to look fairly hard to find ET one.) Oh, I would love

Re: svn commit: r197969 - head/sys/conf

2009-10-13 Thread Dmitry Morozovsky
On Wed, 14 Oct 2009, Erik Trulsson wrote: ET ET (There might also be some motherboard out there that has ISA-slots and ET ET supports amd64-capable CPUs but one will have to look fairly hard to find ET ET one.) ET ET Oh, I would love to see at least a photo of such a beast ;-) ET ET

Re: svn commit: r197969 - head/sys/conf

2009-10-13 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: 2e290d8d-baf0-4e4e-a352-b00fafd9d...@mac.com Marcel Moolenaar xcl...@mac.com writes: : : On Oct 13, 2009, at 10:32 AM, M. Warner Losh wrote: : : Why? They should be scanned for on any system with a real isa : bus... : : : : Other than i386, those are? : : So

Re: svn commit: r197969 - head/sys/conf

2009-10-13 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: alpine.bsf.2.00.0910140039030.78...@woozle.rinet.ru Dmitry Morozovsky ma...@rinet.ru writes: : On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Erik Trulsson wrote: : : ET (There might also be some motherboard out there that has ISA-slots and : ET supports amd64-capable CPUs but one will have to

Re: svn commit: r197969 - head/sys/conf

2009-10-13 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: 200910131703.50700.j...@freebsd.org Jung-uk Kim j...@freebsd.org writes: : On Tuesday 13 October 2009 04:42 pm, Dmitry Morozovsky wrote: : On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Erik Trulsson wrote: : : ET (There might also be some motherboard out there that has : ISA-slots and ET

Re: svn commit: r197969 - head/sys/conf

2009-10-13 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
On Oct 13, 2009, at 5:06 PM, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: 2e290d8d-baf0-4e4e-a352-b00fafd9d...@mac.com Marcel Moolenaar xcl...@mac.com writes: : : On Oct 13, 2009, at 10:32 AM, M. Warner Losh wrote: : : Why? They should be scanned for on any system with a real isa : bus...

Re: svn commit: r197969 - head/sys/conf

2009-10-13 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: ec2b1366-67f5-4021-a5a0-040d035ad...@mac.com Marcel Moolenaar xcl...@mac.com writes: : : On Oct 13, 2009, at 5:06 PM, M. Warner Losh wrote: : : In message: 2e290d8d-baf0-4e4e-a352-b00fafd9d...@mac.com : Marcel Moolenaar xcl...@mac.com writes: : : : : On Oct

Re: svn commit: r197969 - head/sys/conf

2009-10-13 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: ec2b1366-67f5-4021-a5a0-040d035ad...@mac.com Marcel Moolenaar xcl...@mac.com writes: : : On Oct 13, 2009, at 5:06 PM, M. Warner Losh wrote: : : In message: 2e290d8d-baf0-4e4e-a352-b00fafd9d...@mac.com : Marcel Moolenaar xcl...@mac.com writes: : : : : On Oct

svn commit: r197969 - head/sys/conf

2009-10-11 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
Author: marcel Date: Sun Oct 11 20:42:26 2009 New Revision: 197969 URL: http://svn.freebsd.org/changeset/base/197969 Log: Scan for option ROMs on i386 and amd64 only. Modified: head/sys/conf/files head/sys/conf/files.amd64 head/sys/conf/files.i386 Modified: head/sys/conf/files