Re: svn commit: r362809 - head/contrib/mandoc
On Sun, Jul 05, 2020 at 10:22:58AM -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 12:06:13AM +, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 05:01:00PM -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > > Thats good, but realize the page already contains history that > > > > reads like: > > > > > > > > HISTORY > > > > Part of the functionality of whatis was already provided by the > > > > former > > > > manwhere utility in 1BSD. The apropos and whatis utilities first > > > > ap- > > > > peared in 2BSD. They were rewritten from scratch for OpenBSD 5.6. > > > > > > > > The -M option and the MANPATH variable first appeared in 4.3BSD; > > > > -m in > > > > 4.3BSD-Reno; -C in 4.4BSD Lite1; and -S and -s in OpenBSD 4.5 for > > > > apropos > > > > and in OpenBSD 5.6 for whatis. The options -acfhIKklOTWw appeared > > > > in > > > > OpenBSD 5.7. > > > > > > > > And further contains: > > > > > > > > AUTHORS > > > > Bill Joy wrote manwhere in 1977 and the original BSD apropos and > > > > whatis > > > > in February 1979. The current version was written by Kristaps > > > > Dzonsons > > > > and Ingo Schwarze . > > > > > > > > So the history is rich and complete, do we really need to say when we > > > > incorporated this into FreeBSD from OpenBSD's mandoc in the manual page? > > > > > > Ah, in this case, the only thing lacking from the current version is > > > mention > > > of FreeBSD 11.1. Sorry for not checking with that before writing my > > > reply. > > > My main point, however, was that reverse chronological order looks > > > strange. > > > > I have created the following differential and integrated the given feedback. > > > > https://reviews.freebsd.org/D25566 > > > > If necessary I could revert r362809, but somebody should explicit request > > it. > > Consider it so requested. Consider it done. --Gordon > -- > Rod Grimes rgri...@freebsd.org > ___ > svn-src-h...@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-head > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-head-unsubscr...@freebsd.org" -- ___ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r362809 - head/contrib/mandoc
> On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 12:06:13AM +, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 05:01:00PM -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > Thats good, but realize the page already contains history that > > > reads like: > > > > > > HISTORY > > > Part of the functionality of whatis was already provided by the > > > former > > > manwhere utility in 1BSD. The apropos and whatis utilities first ap- > > > peared in 2BSD. They were rewritten from scratch for OpenBSD 5.6. > > > > > > The -M option and the MANPATH variable first appeared in 4.3BSD; -m > > > in > > > 4.3BSD-Reno; -C in 4.4BSD Lite1; and -S and -s in OpenBSD 4.5 for > > > apropos > > > and in OpenBSD 5.6 for whatis. The options -acfhIKklOTWw appeared in > > > OpenBSD 5.7. > > > > > > And further contains: > > > > > > AUTHORS > > > Bill Joy wrote manwhere in 1977 and the original BSD apropos and > > > whatis > > > in February 1979. The current version was written by Kristaps > > > Dzonsons > > > and Ingo Schwarze . > > > > > > So the history is rich and complete, do we really need to say when we > > > incorporated this into FreeBSD from OpenBSD's mandoc in the manual page? > > > > Ah, in this case, the only thing lacking from the current version is mention > > of FreeBSD 11.1. Sorry for not checking with that before writing my reply. > > My main point, however, was that reverse chronological order looks strange. > > I have created the following differential and integrated the given feedback. > > https://reviews.freebsd.org/D25566 > > If necessary I could revert r362809, but somebody should explicit request it. Consider it so requested. > --Gordon -- Rod Grimes rgri...@freebsd.org ___ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r362809 - head/contrib/mandoc
On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 12:06:13AM +, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 05:01:00PM -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > Thats good, but realize the page already contains history that > > reads like: > > > > HISTORY > > Part of the functionality of whatis was already provided by the former > > manwhere utility in 1BSD. The apropos and whatis utilities first ap- > > peared in 2BSD. They were rewritten from scratch for OpenBSD 5.6. > > > > The -M option and the MANPATH variable first appeared in 4.3BSD; -m in > > 4.3BSD-Reno; -C in 4.4BSD Lite1; and -S and -s in OpenBSD 4.5 for > > apropos > > and in OpenBSD 5.6 for whatis. The options -acfhIKklOTWw appeared in > > OpenBSD 5.7. > > > > And further contains: > > > > AUTHORS > > Bill Joy wrote manwhere in 1977 and the original BSD apropos and whatis > > in February 1979. The current version was written by Kristaps Dzonsons > > and Ingo Schwarze . > > > > So the history is rich and complete, do we really need to say when we > > incorporated this into FreeBSD from OpenBSD's mandoc in the manual page? > > Ah, in this case, the only thing lacking from the current version is mention > of FreeBSD 11.1. Sorry for not checking with that before writing my reply. > My main point, however, was that reverse chronological order looks strange. I have created the following differential and integrated the given feedback. https://reviews.freebsd.org/D25566 If necessary I could revert r362809, but somebody should explicit request it. --Gordon ___ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r362809 - head/contrib/mandoc
On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 05:01:00PM -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > Thats good, but realize the page already contains history that > reads like: > > HISTORY > Part of the functionality of whatis was already provided by the former > manwhere utility in 1BSD. The apropos and whatis utilities first ap- > peared in 2BSD. They were rewritten from scratch for OpenBSD 5.6. > > The -M option and the MANPATH variable first appeared in 4.3BSD; -m in > 4.3BSD-Reno; -C in 4.4BSD Lite1; and -S and -s in OpenBSD 4.5 for apropos > and in OpenBSD 5.6 for whatis. The options -acfhIKklOTWw appeared in > OpenBSD 5.7. > > And further contains: > > AUTHORS > Bill Joy wrote manwhere in 1977 and the original BSD apropos and whatis > in February 1979. The current version was written by Kristaps Dzonsons > and Ingo Schwarze . > > So the history is rich and complete, do we really need to say when we > incorporated this into FreeBSD from OpenBSD's mandoc in the manual page? Ah, in this case, the only thing lacking from the current version is mention of FreeBSD 11.1. Sorry for not checking with that before writing my reply. My main point, however, was that reverse chronological order looks strange. ./danfe ___ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r362809 - head/contrib/mandoc
> On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 11:28:47PM +0200, Gordon Bergling wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 11:58:05AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 8:51 AM Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > > ... > > > > We often have "An ls command appeared in Version 1 AT UNIX." Our > > > > source > > > > code and man page is not from that, but that is the history of ls. > > > > > > > > This *could* be amended and *should* be amended to reflect that apropos, > > > > and makewhatis got *updated* by a switch to the mandoc versions, but it > > > > is misleading to say it was intergrated with the switch to mandoc as > > > > that > > > > implies it did not exist before this action. > > > > > > I tend to agree with Rod here. These appeared in X the first time, but > > > noting they were replaced in version X with Y is the best way to address > > > the current provenance of the code... > > > > OK, I see your arguments. How about the following addition for HISTORY > > section, > > > > The apropos utility was integrated into FreeBSD 11.1 as part of the > > switch to mandoc. Before the switch to mandoc apropos was available since > > FreeBSD 1.0. > > It should be the other way around: > > "The apropos utility appeared in FreeBSD 1.0. Since FreeBSD 11.1 >it is based on mandoc implementation." Thats good, but realize the page already contains history that reads like: HISTORY Part of the functionality of whatis was already provided by the former manwhere utility in 1BSD. The apropos and whatis utilities first ap- peared in 2BSD. They were rewritten from scratch for OpenBSD 5.6. The -M option and the MANPATH variable first appeared in 4.3BSD; -m in 4.3BSD-Reno; -C in 4.4BSD Lite1; and -S and -s in OpenBSD 4.5 for apropos and in OpenBSD 5.6 for whatis. The options -acfhIKklOTWw appeared in OpenBSD 5.7. And further contains: UTHORS Bill Joy wrote manwhere in 1977 and the original BSD apropos and whatis in February 1979. The current version was written by Kristaps Dzonsons and Ingo Schwarze . So the history is rich and complete, do we really need to say when we incorporated this into FreeBSD from OpenBSD's mandoc in the manual page? > ./danfe -- Rod Grimes rgri...@freebsd.org ___ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r362809 - head/contrib/mandoc
On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 11:28:47PM +0200, Gordon Bergling wrote: > On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 11:58:05AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 8:51 AM Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > ... > > > We often have "An ls command appeared in Version 1 AT UNIX." Our source > > > code and man page is not from that, but that is the history of ls. > > > > > > This *could* be amended and *should* be amended to reflect that apropos, > > > and makewhatis got *updated* by a switch to the mandoc versions, but it > > > is misleading to say it was intergrated with the switch to mandoc as that > > > implies it did not exist before this action. > > > > I tend to agree with Rod here. These appeared in X the first time, but > > noting they were replaced in version X with Y is the best way to address > > the current provenance of the code... > > OK, I see your arguments. How about the following addition for HISTORY > section, > > The apropos utility was integrated into FreeBSD 11.1 as part of the > switch to mandoc. Before the switch to mandoc apropos was available since > FreeBSD 1.0. It should be the other way around: "The apropos utility appeared in FreeBSD 1.0. Since FreeBSD 11.1 it is based on mandoc implementation." ./danfe ___ svn-src-all@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/svn-src-all To unsubscribe, send any mail to "svn-src-all-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"
Re: svn commit: r362809 - head/contrib/mandoc
> On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 11:58:05AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 8:51 AM Rodney W. Grimes
> > wrote:
> >
> > > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 03:56:17PM -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
> > > > > [ Charset UTF-8 unsupported, converting... ]
> > > > > > Author: gbe (doc committer)
> > > > > > Date: Tue Jun 30 18:08:59 2020
> > > > > > New Revision: 362809
> > > > > > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/362809
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Log:
> > > > > > Mention FreeBSD in the HISTORY sections of apropos(1) and
> > > makewhatis(8).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PR: 223520, 223521
> > > > > > Reviewed by:bcr (mentor)
> > > > > > Approved by:bcr (mentor)
> > > > > > Differential Revision: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D25521
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Modified:
> > > > > > head/contrib/mandoc/apropos.1
> > > > > > head/contrib/mandoc/makewhatis.8
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Modified: head/contrib/mandoc/apropos.1
> > > > > >
> > > ==
> > > > > > --- head/contrib/mandoc/apropos.1 Tue Jun 30 17:21:28 2020
> > > (r362808)
> > > > > > +++ head/contrib/mandoc/apropos.1 Tue Jun 30 18:08:59 2020
> > > (r362809)
> > > > > > @@ -15,7 +15,7 @@
> > > > > > .\" ACTION OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE OR OTHER TORTIOUS ACTION,
> > > ARISING OUT OF
> > > > > > .\" OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OR PERFORMANCE OF THIS SOFTWARE.
> > > > > > .\"
> > > > > > -.Dd $Mdocdate: November 22 2018 $
> > > > > > +.Dd $Mdocdate: June 30 2020 $
> > > > > > .Dt APROPOS 1
> > > > > > .Os
> > > > > > .Sh NAME
> > > > > > @@ -493,6 +493,12 @@ The options
> > > > > > .Fl acfhIKklOTWw
> > > > > > appeared in
> > > > > > .Ox 5.7 .
> > > > > > +.Pp
> > > > > > +The
> > > > > > +.Nm
> > > > > > +utility was integrated into
> > > > > > +.Fx 11.1
> > > > > > +as part of the switch to mandoc.
> > > > >
> > > > > Huh? FreeBSD has had apropos since 1.0 and my 5.4 system clearly has
> > > it:
> > > > > freebsd {110}% uname -a
> > > > > FreeBSD pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net 5.4-RELEASE-p8 FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p8
> > > #1: Mon Jul 1 17:58:50 PDT 2019
> > > r...@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/PDXMXPIE
> > > i386
> > > > > pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net:freebsd {111}% which apropos
> > > > > /usr/bin/apropos
> > > > >
> > > > > And a man page for it too:
> > > > > APROPOS(1) FreeBSD General Commands Manual
> > > APROPOS(1)
> > > > >
> > > > > NAME
> > > > > apropos, whatis -- search the whatis database
> > > > >
> > > > > SYNOPSIS
> > > > > apropos keyword ...
> > > > > whatis keyword ...
> > > > >
> > > > > DESCRIPTION
> > > > > apropos searches a set of database files containing short
> > > descriptions of
> > > > > system commands for keywords and displays the result on the
> > > standard out-
> > > > > put. whatis displays only complete word matches.
> > > > >
> > > > > keyword really is an extended regular expression, please read
> > > grep(1)
> > > > > manual page for more information about its format.
> > > > >
> > > > > DIAGNOSTICS
> > > > > The apropos utility exits 0 on success, and 1 if no keyword
> > > matched.
> > > > >
> > > > > SEE ALSO
> > > > > grep(1), makewhatis(1), man(1)
> > > > >
> > > > > FreeBSD 5.4January 15, 1991
> > > FreeBSD 5.4
> > > > >
> > > > > > .Sh AUTHORS
> > > > > > .An -nosplit
> > > > > > .An Bill Joy
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > That is true, but the version of 'apropos' we have currently in base is
> > > based on mandoc,
> > > > which was imported around September 2018. Due to the nature of
> > > contributed code I
> > > > thought it would be best to document only the history when it was
> > > integrated into
> > > > FreeSBD. The same applies for 'makewhatis'.
> > >
> > > That is not what has been done in other places when code is
> > > changed/replaced,
> > > the HISTORY section is not specific to "FreeBSD's version" of this
> > > function.
> > >
> > > We often have "An ls command appeared in Version 1 AT UNIX." Our source
> > > code and man page is not from that, but that is the history of ls.
> > >
> > > This *could* be amended and *should* be amended to reflect that apropos,
> > > and makewhatis got *updated* by a switch to the mandoc versions, but it
> > > is misleading to say it was intergrated with the switch to mandoc as that
> > > implies it did not exist before this action.
> > >
> >
> > I tend to agree with Rod here. These appeared in X the first time, but
> > noting they were replaced in version X with Y is the best way to address
> > the current provenance of the code...
> >
> > Warner
>
> OK, I see your arguments. How about the following addition for HISTORY
> section,
>
> The apropos utility was integrated into FreeBSD 11.1 as part of the
> switch to mandoc. Before the switch to mandoc apropos was available since
> FreeBSD 1.0.
This still implies that it originated with the switch to
Re: svn commit: r362809 - head/contrib/mandoc
On Wed, Jul 01, 2020 at 11:58:05AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 8:51 AM Rodney W. Grimes
> wrote:
>
> > > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 03:56:17PM -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
> > > > [ Charset UTF-8 unsupported, converting... ]
> > > > > Author: gbe (doc committer)
> > > > > Date: Tue Jun 30 18:08:59 2020
> > > > > New Revision: 362809
> > > > > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/362809
> > > > >
> > > > > Log:
> > > > > Mention FreeBSD in the HISTORY sections of apropos(1) and
> > makewhatis(8).
> > > > >
> > > > > PR: 223520, 223521
> > > > > Reviewed by:bcr (mentor)
> > > > > Approved by:bcr (mentor)
> > > > > Differential Revision: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D25521
> > > > >
> > > > > Modified:
> > > > > head/contrib/mandoc/apropos.1
> > > > > head/contrib/mandoc/makewhatis.8
> > > > >
> > > > > Modified: head/contrib/mandoc/apropos.1
> > > > >
> > ==
> > > > > --- head/contrib/mandoc/apropos.1 Tue Jun 30 17:21:28 2020
> > (r362808)
> > > > > +++ head/contrib/mandoc/apropos.1 Tue Jun 30 18:08:59 2020
> > (r362809)
> > > > > @@ -15,7 +15,7 @@
> > > > > .\" ACTION OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE OR OTHER TORTIOUS ACTION,
> > ARISING OUT OF
> > > > > .\" OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OR PERFORMANCE OF THIS SOFTWARE.
> > > > > .\"
> > > > > -.Dd $Mdocdate: November 22 2018 $
> > > > > +.Dd $Mdocdate: June 30 2020 $
> > > > > .Dt APROPOS 1
> > > > > .Os
> > > > > .Sh NAME
> > > > > @@ -493,6 +493,12 @@ The options
> > > > > .Fl acfhIKklOTWw
> > > > > appeared in
> > > > > .Ox 5.7 .
> > > > > +.Pp
> > > > > +The
> > > > > +.Nm
> > > > > +utility was integrated into
> > > > > +.Fx 11.1
> > > > > +as part of the switch to mandoc.
> > > >
> > > > Huh? FreeBSD has had apropos since 1.0 and my 5.4 system clearly has
> > it:
> > > > freebsd {110}% uname -a
> > > > FreeBSD pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net 5.4-RELEASE-p8 FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p8
> > #1: Mon Jul 1 17:58:50 PDT 2019
> > r...@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/PDXMXPIE
> > i386
> > > > pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net:freebsd {111}% which apropos
> > > > /usr/bin/apropos
> > > >
> > > > And a man page for it too:
> > > > APROPOS(1) FreeBSD General Commands Manual
> > APROPOS(1)
> > > >
> > > > NAME
> > > > apropos, whatis -- search the whatis database
> > > >
> > > > SYNOPSIS
> > > > apropos keyword ...
> > > > whatis keyword ...
> > > >
> > > > DESCRIPTION
> > > > apropos searches a set of database files containing short
> > descriptions of
> > > > system commands for keywords and displays the result on the
> > standard out-
> > > > put. whatis displays only complete word matches.
> > > >
> > > > keyword really is an extended regular expression, please read
> > grep(1)
> > > > manual page for more information about its format.
> > > >
> > > > DIAGNOSTICS
> > > > The apropos utility exits 0 on success, and 1 if no keyword
> > matched.
> > > >
> > > > SEE ALSO
> > > > grep(1), makewhatis(1), man(1)
> > > >
> > > > FreeBSD 5.4January 15, 1991
> > FreeBSD 5.4
> > > >
> > > > > .Sh AUTHORS
> > > > > .An -nosplit
> > > > > .An Bill Joy
> > > > >
> > >
> > > That is true, but the version of 'apropos' we have currently in base is
> > based on mandoc,
> > > which was imported around September 2018. Due to the nature of
> > contributed code I
> > > thought it would be best to document only the history when it was
> > integrated into
> > > FreeSBD. The same applies for 'makewhatis'.
> >
> > That is not what has been done in other places when code is
> > changed/replaced,
> > the HISTORY section is not specific to "FreeBSD's version" of this
> > function.
> >
> > We often have "An ls command appeared in Version 1 AT UNIX." Our source
> > code and man page is not from that, but that is the history of ls.
> >
> > This *could* be amended and *should* be amended to reflect that apropos,
> > and makewhatis got *updated* by a switch to the mandoc versions, but it
> > is misleading to say it was intergrated with the switch to mandoc as that
> > implies it did not exist before this action.
> >
>
> I tend to agree with Rod here. These appeared in X the first time, but
> noting they were replaced in version X with Y is the best way to address
> the current provenance of the code...
>
> Warner
OK, I see your arguments. How about the following addition for HISTORY section,
The apropos utility was integrated into FreeBSD 11.1 as part of the
switch to mandoc. Before the switch to mandoc apropos was available since
FreeBSD 1.0.
Any suggestions on how to describe the history more precise are very welcome.
--Gordon
> > > > > Modified: head/contrib/mandoc/makewhatis.8
> > > > >
> > ==
> > > > > --- head/contrib/mandoc/makewhatis.8 Tue Jun 30 17:21:28 2020
> >
Re: svn commit: r362809 - head/contrib/mandoc
On Wed, Jul 1, 2020 at 8:51 AM Rodney W. Grimes
wrote:
> > On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 03:56:17PM -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
> > > [ Charset UTF-8 unsupported, converting... ]
> > > > Author: gbe (doc committer)
> > > > Date: Tue Jun 30 18:08:59 2020
> > > > New Revision: 362809
> > > > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/362809
> > > >
> > > > Log:
> > > > Mention FreeBSD in the HISTORY sections of apropos(1) and
> makewhatis(8).
> > > >
> > > > PR: 223520, 223521
> > > > Reviewed by:bcr (mentor)
> > > > Approved by:bcr (mentor)
> > > > Differential Revision: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D25521
> > > >
> > > > Modified:
> > > > head/contrib/mandoc/apropos.1
> > > > head/contrib/mandoc/makewhatis.8
> > > >
> > > > Modified: head/contrib/mandoc/apropos.1
> > > >
> ==
> > > > --- head/contrib/mandoc/apropos.1 Tue Jun 30 17:21:28 2020
> (r362808)
> > > > +++ head/contrib/mandoc/apropos.1 Tue Jun 30 18:08:59 2020
> (r362809)
> > > > @@ -15,7 +15,7 @@
> > > > .\" ACTION OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE OR OTHER TORTIOUS ACTION,
> ARISING OUT OF
> > > > .\" OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OR PERFORMANCE OF THIS SOFTWARE.
> > > > .\"
> > > > -.Dd $Mdocdate: November 22 2018 $
> > > > +.Dd $Mdocdate: June 30 2020 $
> > > > .Dt APROPOS 1
> > > > .Os
> > > > .Sh NAME
> > > > @@ -493,6 +493,12 @@ The options
> > > > .Fl acfhIKklOTWw
> > > > appeared in
> > > > .Ox 5.7 .
> > > > +.Pp
> > > > +The
> > > > +.Nm
> > > > +utility was integrated into
> > > > +.Fx 11.1
> > > > +as part of the switch to mandoc.
> > >
> > > Huh? FreeBSD has had apropos since 1.0 and my 5.4 system clearly has
> it:
> > > freebsd {110}% uname -a
> > > FreeBSD pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net 5.4-RELEASE-p8 FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p8
> #1: Mon Jul 1 17:58:50 PDT 2019
> r...@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/PDXMXPIE
> i386
> > > pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net:freebsd {111}% which apropos
> > > /usr/bin/apropos
> > >
> > > And a man page for it too:
> > > APROPOS(1) FreeBSD General Commands Manual
> APROPOS(1)
> > >
> > > NAME
> > > apropos, whatis -- search the whatis database
> > >
> > > SYNOPSIS
> > > apropos keyword ...
> > > whatis keyword ...
> > >
> > > DESCRIPTION
> > > apropos searches a set of database files containing short
> descriptions of
> > > system commands for keywords and displays the result on the
> standard out-
> > > put. whatis displays only complete word matches.
> > >
> > > keyword really is an extended regular expression, please read
> grep(1)
> > > manual page for more information about its format.
> > >
> > > DIAGNOSTICS
> > > The apropos utility exits 0 on success, and 1 if no keyword
> matched.
> > >
> > > SEE ALSO
> > > grep(1), makewhatis(1), man(1)
> > >
> > > FreeBSD 5.4January 15, 1991
> FreeBSD 5.4
> > >
> > > > .Sh AUTHORS
> > > > .An -nosplit
> > > > .An Bill Joy
> > > >
> >
> > That is true, but the version of 'apropos' we have currently in base is
> based on mandoc,
> > which was imported around September 2018. Due to the nature of
> contributed code I
> > thought it would be best to document only the history when it was
> integrated into
> > FreeSBD. The same applies for 'makewhatis'.
>
> That is not what has been done in other places when code is
> changed/replaced,
> the HISTORY section is not specific to "FreeBSD's version" of this
> function.
>
> We often have "An ls command appeared in Version 1 AT UNIX." Our source
> code and man page is not from that, but that is the history of ls.
>
> This *could* be amended and *should* be amended to reflect that apropos,
> and makewhatis got *updated* by a switch to the mandoc versions, but it
> is misleading to say it was intergrated with the switch to mandoc as that
> implies it did not exist before this action.
>
I tend to agree with Rod here. These appeared in X the first time, but
noting they were replaced in version X with Y is the best way to address
the current provenance of the code...
Warner
> >
> > > > Modified: head/contrib/mandoc/makewhatis.8
> > > >
> ==
> > > > --- head/contrib/mandoc/makewhatis.8 Tue Jun 30 17:21:28 2020
> (r362808)
> > > > +++ head/contrib/mandoc/makewhatis.8 Tue Jun 30 18:08:59 2020
> (r362809)
> > > > @@ -15,7 +15,7 @@
> > > > .\" ACTION OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE OR OTHER TORTIOUS ACTION,
> ARISING OUT OF
> > > > .\" OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OR PERFORMANCE OF THIS SOFTWARE.
> > > > .\"
> > > > -.Dd $Mdocdate: May 17 2017 $
> > > > +.Dd $Mdocdate: June 30 2020 $
> > > > .Dt MAKEWHATIS 8
> > > > .Os
> > > > .Sh NAME
> > > > @@ -211,6 +211,12 @@ and the options
> > > > .Fl aCDnQT
> > > > in
> > > > .Ox 5.6 .
> > > > +.Pp
> > > > +The
> > > > +.Nm
> > > > +utility was integrated into
> > > > +.Fx 11.1
> > > > +as part of
Re: svn commit: r362809 - head/contrib/mandoc
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 03:56:17PM -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
> > [ Charset UTF-8 unsupported, converting... ]
> > > Author: gbe (doc committer)
> > > Date: Tue Jun 30 18:08:59 2020
> > > New Revision: 362809
> > > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/362809
> > >
> > > Log:
> > > Mention FreeBSD in the HISTORY sections of apropos(1) and makewhatis(8).
> > >
> > > PR: 223520, 223521
> > > Reviewed by:bcr (mentor)
> > > Approved by:bcr (mentor)
> > > Differential Revision: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D25521
> > >
> > > Modified:
> > > head/contrib/mandoc/apropos.1
> > > head/contrib/mandoc/makewhatis.8
> > >
> > > Modified: head/contrib/mandoc/apropos.1
> > > ==
> > > --- head/contrib/mandoc/apropos.1 Tue Jun 30 17:21:28 2020
> > > (r362808)
> > > +++ head/contrib/mandoc/apropos.1 Tue Jun 30 18:08:59 2020
> > > (r362809)
> > > @@ -15,7 +15,7 @@
> > > .\" ACTION OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE OR OTHER TORTIOUS ACTION, ARISING OUT
> > > OF
> > > .\" OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OR PERFORMANCE OF THIS SOFTWARE.
> > > .\"
> > > -.Dd $Mdocdate: November 22 2018 $
> > > +.Dd $Mdocdate: June 30 2020 $
> > > .Dt APROPOS 1
> > > .Os
> > > .Sh NAME
> > > @@ -493,6 +493,12 @@ The options
> > > .Fl acfhIKklOTWw
> > > appeared in
> > > .Ox 5.7 .
> > > +.Pp
> > > +The
> > > +.Nm
> > > +utility was integrated into
> > > +.Fx 11.1
> > > +as part of the switch to mandoc.
> >
> > Huh? FreeBSD has had apropos since 1.0 and my 5.4 system clearly has it:
> > freebsd {110}% uname -a
> > FreeBSD pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net 5.4-RELEASE-p8 FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p8 #1:
> > Mon Jul 1 17:58:50 PDT 2019
> > r...@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/PDXMXPIE i386
> > pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net:freebsd {111}% which apropos
> > /usr/bin/apropos
> >
> > And a man page for it too:
> > APROPOS(1) FreeBSD General Commands Manual
> > APROPOS(1)
> >
> > NAME
> > apropos, whatis -- search the whatis database
> >
> > SYNOPSIS
> > apropos keyword ...
> > whatis keyword ...
> >
> > DESCRIPTION
> > apropos searches a set of database files containing short descriptions
> > of
> > system commands for keywords and displays the result on the standard
> > out-
> > put. whatis displays only complete word matches.
> >
> > keyword really is an extended regular expression, please read grep(1)
> > manual page for more information about its format.
> >
> > DIAGNOSTICS
> > The apropos utility exits 0 on success, and 1 if no keyword matched.
> >
> > SEE ALSO
> > grep(1), makewhatis(1), man(1)
> >
> > FreeBSD 5.4January 15, 1991FreeBSD
> > 5.4
> >
> > > .Sh AUTHORS
> > > .An -nosplit
> > > .An Bill Joy
> > >
>
> That is true, but the version of 'apropos' we have currently in base is based
> on mandoc,
> which was imported around September 2018. Due to the nature of contributed
> code I
> thought it would be best to document only the history when it was integrated
> into
> FreeSBD. The same applies for 'makewhatis'.
That is not what has been done in other places when code is changed/replaced,
the HISTORY section is not specific to "FreeBSD's version" of this function.
We often have "An ls command appeared in Version 1 AT UNIX." Our source
code and man page is not from that, but that is the history of ls.
This *could* be amended and *should* be amended to reflect that apropos,
and makewhatis got *updated* by a switch to the mandoc versions, but it
is misleading to say it was intergrated with the switch to mandoc as that
implies it did not exist before this action.
>
> > > Modified: head/contrib/mandoc/makewhatis.8
> > > ==
> > > --- head/contrib/mandoc/makewhatis.8 Tue Jun 30 17:21:28 2020
> > > (r362808)
> > > +++ head/contrib/mandoc/makewhatis.8 Tue Jun 30 18:08:59 2020
> > > (r362809)
> > > @@ -15,7 +15,7 @@
> > > .\" ACTION OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE OR OTHER TORTIOUS ACTION, ARISING OUT
> > > OF
> > > .\" OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OR PERFORMANCE OF THIS SOFTWARE.
> > > .\"
> > > -.Dd $Mdocdate: May 17 2017 $
> > > +.Dd $Mdocdate: June 30 2020 $
> > > .Dt MAKEWHATIS 8
> > > .Os
> > > .Sh NAME
> > > @@ -211,6 +211,12 @@ and the options
> > > .Fl aCDnQT
> > > in
> > > .Ox 5.6 .
> > > +.Pp
> > > +The
> > > +.Nm
> > > +utility was integrated into
> > > +.Fx 11.1
> > > +as part of the switch to mandoc.
> >
> > Ditto
> >
> > > .Sh AUTHORS
> > > .An -nosplit
> > > .An Bill Joy
>
> --Gordon
>
--
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Re: svn commit: r362809 - head/contrib/mandoc
On Tue, Jun 30, 2020 at 03:56:17PM -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote:
> [ Charset UTF-8 unsupported, converting... ]
> > Author: gbe (doc committer)
> > Date: Tue Jun 30 18:08:59 2020
> > New Revision: 362809
> > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/362809
> >
> > Log:
> > Mention FreeBSD in the HISTORY sections of apropos(1) and makewhatis(8).
> >
> > PR: 223520, 223521
> > Reviewed by: bcr (mentor)
> > Approved by: bcr (mentor)
> > Differential Revision:https://reviews.freebsd.org/D25521
> >
> > Modified:
> > head/contrib/mandoc/apropos.1
> > head/contrib/mandoc/makewhatis.8
> >
> > Modified: head/contrib/mandoc/apropos.1
> > ==
> > --- head/contrib/mandoc/apropos.1 Tue Jun 30 17:21:28 2020
> > (r362808)
> > +++ head/contrib/mandoc/apropos.1 Tue Jun 30 18:08:59 2020
> > (r362809)
> > @@ -15,7 +15,7 @@
> > .\" ACTION OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE OR OTHER TORTIOUS ACTION, ARISING OUT OF
> > .\" OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OR PERFORMANCE OF THIS SOFTWARE.
> > .\"
> > -.Dd $Mdocdate: November 22 2018 $
> > +.Dd $Mdocdate: June 30 2020 $
> > .Dt APROPOS 1
> > .Os
> > .Sh NAME
> > @@ -493,6 +493,12 @@ The options
> > .Fl acfhIKklOTWw
> > appeared in
> > .Ox 5.7 .
> > +.Pp
> > +The
> > +.Nm
> > +utility was integrated into
> > +.Fx 11.1
> > +as part of the switch to mandoc.
>
> Huh? FreeBSD has had apropos since 1.0 and my 5.4 system clearly has it:
> freebsd {110}% uname -a
> FreeBSD pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net 5.4-RELEASE-p8 FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p8 #1: Mon
> Jul 1 17:58:50 PDT 2019
> r...@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/PDXMXPIE i386
> pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net:freebsd {111}% which apropos
> /usr/bin/apropos
>
> And a man page for it too:
> APROPOS(1) FreeBSD General Commands Manual APROPOS(1)
>
> NAME
> apropos, whatis -- search the whatis database
>
> SYNOPSIS
> apropos keyword ...
> whatis keyword ...
>
> DESCRIPTION
> apropos searches a set of database files containing short descriptions of
> system commands for keywords and displays the result on the standard out-
> put. whatis displays only complete word matches.
>
> keyword really is an extended regular expression, please read grep(1)
> manual page for more information about its format.
>
> DIAGNOSTICS
> The apropos utility exits 0 on success, and 1 if no keyword matched.
>
> SEE ALSO
> grep(1), makewhatis(1), man(1)
>
> FreeBSD 5.4January 15, 1991FreeBSD 5.4
>
> > .Sh AUTHORS
> > .An -nosplit
> > .An Bill Joy
> >
That is true, but the version of 'apropos' we have currently in base is based
on mandoc,
which was imported around September 2018. Due to the nature of contributed code
I
thought it would be best to document only the history when it was integrated
into
FreeSBD. The same applies for 'makewhatis'.
> > Modified: head/contrib/mandoc/makewhatis.8
> > ==
> > --- head/contrib/mandoc/makewhatis.8Tue Jun 30 17:21:28 2020
> > (r362808)
> > +++ head/contrib/mandoc/makewhatis.8Tue Jun 30 18:08:59 2020
> > (r362809)
> > @@ -15,7 +15,7 @@
> > .\" ACTION OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE OR OTHER TORTIOUS ACTION, ARISING OUT OF
> > .\" OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OR PERFORMANCE OF THIS SOFTWARE.
> > .\"
> > -.Dd $Mdocdate: May 17 2017 $
> > +.Dd $Mdocdate: June 30 2020 $
> > .Dt MAKEWHATIS 8
> > .Os
> > .Sh NAME
> > @@ -211,6 +211,12 @@ and the options
> > .Fl aCDnQT
> > in
> > .Ox 5.6 .
> > +.Pp
> > +The
> > +.Nm
> > +utility was integrated into
> > +.Fx 11.1
> > +as part of the switch to mandoc.
>
> Ditto
>
> > .Sh AUTHORS
> > .An -nosplit
> > .An Bill Joy
--Gordon
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Re: svn commit: r362809 - head/contrib/mandoc
[ Charset UTF-8 unsupported, converting... ]
> Author: gbe (doc committer)
> Date: Tue Jun 30 18:08:59 2020
> New Revision: 362809
> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/362809
>
> Log:
> Mention FreeBSD in the HISTORY sections of apropos(1) and makewhatis(8).
>
> PR: 223520, 223521
> Reviewed by:bcr (mentor)
> Approved by:bcr (mentor)
> Differential Revision: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D25521
>
> Modified:
> head/contrib/mandoc/apropos.1
> head/contrib/mandoc/makewhatis.8
>
> Modified: head/contrib/mandoc/apropos.1
> ==
> --- head/contrib/mandoc/apropos.1 Tue Jun 30 17:21:28 2020
> (r362808)
> +++ head/contrib/mandoc/apropos.1 Tue Jun 30 18:08:59 2020
> (r362809)
> @@ -15,7 +15,7 @@
> .\" ACTION OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE OR OTHER TORTIOUS ACTION, ARISING OUT OF
> .\" OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OR PERFORMANCE OF THIS SOFTWARE.
> .\"
> -.Dd $Mdocdate: November 22 2018 $
> +.Dd $Mdocdate: June 30 2020 $
> .Dt APROPOS 1
> .Os
> .Sh NAME
> @@ -493,6 +493,12 @@ The options
> .Fl acfhIKklOTWw
> appeared in
> .Ox 5.7 .
> +.Pp
> +The
> +.Nm
> +utility was integrated into
> +.Fx 11.1
> +as part of the switch to mandoc.
Huh? FreeBSD has had apropos since 1.0 and my 5.4 system clearly has it:
freebsd {110}% uname -a
FreeBSD pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net 5.4-RELEASE-p8 FreeBSD 5.4-RELEASE-p8 #1: Mon
Jul 1 17:58:50 PDT 2019
r...@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net:/usr/src/sys/i386/compile/PDXMXPIE i386
pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net:freebsd {111}% which apropos
/usr/bin/apropos
And a man page for it too:
APROPOS(1) FreeBSD General Commands Manual APROPOS(1)
NAME
apropos, whatis -- search the whatis database
SYNOPSIS
apropos keyword ...
whatis keyword ...
DESCRIPTION
apropos searches a set of database files containing short descriptions of
system commands for keywords and displays the result on the standard out-
put. whatis displays only complete word matches.
keyword really is an extended regular expression, please read grep(1)
manual page for more information about its format.
DIAGNOSTICS
The apropos utility exits 0 on success, and 1 if no keyword matched.
SEE ALSO
grep(1), makewhatis(1), man(1)
FreeBSD 5.4January 15, 1991FreeBSD 5.4
> .Sh AUTHORS
> .An -nosplit
> .An Bill Joy
>
> Modified: head/contrib/mandoc/makewhatis.8
> ==
> --- head/contrib/mandoc/makewhatis.8 Tue Jun 30 17:21:28 2020
> (r362808)
> +++ head/contrib/mandoc/makewhatis.8 Tue Jun 30 18:08:59 2020
> (r362809)
> @@ -15,7 +15,7 @@
> .\" ACTION OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE OR OTHER TORTIOUS ACTION, ARISING OUT OF
> .\" OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OR PERFORMANCE OF THIS SOFTWARE.
> .\"
> -.Dd $Mdocdate: May 17 2017 $
> +.Dd $Mdocdate: June 30 2020 $
> .Dt MAKEWHATIS 8
> .Os
> .Sh NAME
> @@ -211,6 +211,12 @@ and the options
> .Fl aCDnQT
> in
> .Ox 5.6 .
> +.Pp
> +The
> +.Nm
> +utility was integrated into
> +.Fx 11.1
> +as part of the switch to mandoc.
Ditto
> .Sh AUTHORS
> .An -nosplit
> .An Bill Joy
>
--
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