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2017-02-06 Thread John Baldwin
On Sunday, February 05, 2017 10:11:44 PM TAKAHASHI Yoshihiro wrote: > I have decided to remove pc98 support on stable/11 as well > after 2 weeks to reduce conflicts between head and stable/11. That seems like it might be a bit invasive to do on a stable branch? In the past when we've retired

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2017-02-05 Thread TAKAHASHI Yoshihiro
I have decided to remove pc98 support on stable/11 as well after 2 weeks to reduce conflicts between head and stable/11. In article <201701280222.v0s2mfsr022...@repo.freebsd.org> Takahashi Yoshihiro writes: > Author: nyan > Date: Sat Jan 28 02:22:15 2017 > New Revision: 312910

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2017-02-02 Thread Mark Linimon
On Thu, Feb 02, 2017 at 06:07:23PM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: > It clearly states to users that their system is unsupported and > explains how they can bypass the check if they know what they are > doing. It also prevents us from making a promise that we have no intention of keeping (e.g.,

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2017-02-01 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2017-Feb-01 23:26:21 +, Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: >Well, we're doing something more than devoid any support claims: we're >deliberately breaking it, often for little to no reason. Things like >r431746 are disgrace to FreeBSD and utter disrespect to our users. :-(

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2017-02-01 Thread Warner Losh
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 2:55 PM, Ian Lepore wrote: > On Thu, 2017-02-02 at 00:50 +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: >> On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 03:39:57PM -0600, Mark Linimon wrote: >> >> > >> > On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 08:09:50PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: >> > > >> > > Also,

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2017-02-01 Thread Alexey Dokuchaev
On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 03:39:57PM -0600, Mark Linimon wrote: > On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 08:09:50PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > > Also, I am think current ports don't build on 4.x. > > I will personally guarantee, in writing, that current ports do not build > on 4.x, nor have they done so

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2017-02-01 Thread Slawa Olhovchenkov
On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 10:56:24AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > >> > > Fair enough. I haven't fully put away my 12 axe and am toying with > >> > > dropping any ISA-only storage and NIC drivers (and perhaps pccard-only > >> > > as well in that case). Hardware that wants to use ISA/pccard for > >>

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2017-02-01 Thread Ian Lepore
On Thu, 2017-02-02 at 00:50 +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 03:39:57PM -0600, Mark Linimon wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 08:09:50PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > > > > > > Also, I am think current ports don't build on 4.x. > > I will personally

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2017-02-01 Thread Slawa Olhovchenkov
On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 01:45:14PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: > On Wednesday, February 01, 2017 03:39:57 PM Mark Linimon wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 08:09:50PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > > > Also, I am think current ports don't build on 4.x. > > > > I will personally guarantee, in

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2017-02-01 Thread Slawa Olhovchenkov
On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 03:39:57PM -0600, Mark Linimon wrote: > On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 08:09:50PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > > Also, I am think current ports don't build on 4.x. > > I will personally guarantee, in writing, that current ports do not build > on 4.x, nor have they done so

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2017-02-01 Thread John Baldwin
On Wednesday, February 01, 2017 03:39:57 PM Mark Linimon wrote: > On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 08:09:50PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > > Also, I am think current ports don't build on 4.x. > > I will personally guarantee, in writing, that current ports do not build > on 4.x, nor have they done so

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2017-02-01 Thread Mark Linimon
On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 08:09:50PM +0300, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > Also, I am think current ports don't build on 4.x. I will personally guarantee, in writing, that current ports do not build on 4.x, nor have they done so for years. I personally removed the legacy cruft when 4.11 finally went

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2017-02-01 Thread Warner Losh
On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 08:59:40AM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: > >> On Wednesday, February 01, 2017 01:35:56 PM Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: >> > On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 02:46:23PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: >> > >> > > On

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2017-02-01 Thread Slawa Olhovchenkov
On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 08:59:40AM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: > > > Fair enough. I haven't fully put away my 12 axe and am toying with > > > dropping any ISA-only storage and NIC drivers (and perhaps pccard-only > > > as well in that case). Hardware that wants to use ISA/pccard for > > >

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2017-02-01 Thread Slawa Olhovchenkov
On Wed, Feb 01, 2017 at 08:59:40AM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: > On Wednesday, February 01, 2017 01:35:56 PM Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 02:46:23PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: > > > > > On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 03:33:55 PM Warner Losh wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jan 31,

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2017-02-01 Thread John Baldwin
On Wednesday, February 01, 2017 01:35:56 PM Slawa Olhovchenkov wrote: > On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 02:46:23PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: > > > On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 03:33:55 PM Warner Losh wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 3:20 PM, John Baldwin wrote: > > > > On

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2017-02-01 Thread Slawa Olhovchenkov
On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 02:46:23PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: > On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 03:33:55 PM Warner Losh wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 3:20 PM, John Baldwin wrote: > > > On Saturday, January 28, 2017 02:22:15 AM Takahashi Yoshihiro wrote: > > >> Author: nyan >

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2017-01-31 Thread Mark Linimon
On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 04:36:04PM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: > ISA-only attachments would be a good place to start. My quick glance > shows this would be le(4), aha(4), cm(4), mse(4), and joy(4). There's > maybe half a dozen EISA-only drivers in the tree that I was planning > on retiring in 12,

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2017-01-31 Thread Warner Losh
On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 3:46 PM, John Baldwin wrote: > On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 03:33:55 PM Warner Losh wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 3:20 PM, John Baldwin wrote: >> > On Saturday, January 28, 2017 02:22:15 AM Takahashi Yoshihiro wrote: >> >> Author:

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2017-01-31 Thread John Baldwin
On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 03:33:55 PM Warner Losh wrote: > On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 3:20 PM, John Baldwin wrote: > > On Saturday, January 28, 2017 02:22:15 AM Takahashi Yoshihiro wrote: > >> Author: nyan > >> Date: Sat Jan 28 02:22:15 2017 > >> New Revision: 312910 > >> URL:

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2017-01-31 Thread Warner Losh
On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 3:20 PM, John Baldwin wrote: > On Saturday, January 28, 2017 02:22:15 AM Takahashi Yoshihiro wrote: >> Author: nyan >> Date: Sat Jan 28 02:22:15 2017 >> New Revision: 312910 >> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/312910 >> >> Log: >> Remove

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2017-01-31 Thread John Baldwin
On Saturday, January 28, 2017 02:22:15 AM Takahashi Yoshihiro wrote: > Author: nyan > Date: Sat Jan 28 02:22:15 2017 > New Revision: 312910 > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/312910 > > Log: > Remove pc98 support completely. > I thank all developers and contributors for pc98. >

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2017-01-27 Thread Ed Maste
On 27 January 2017 at 21:22, Takahashi Yoshihiro wrote: > Author: nyan > Date: Sat Jan 28 02:22:15 2017 > New Revision: 312910 > URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/312910 > > Log: > Remove pc98 support completely. > I thank all developers and contributors for