[SWCollect] Ethical question

2004-01-21 Thread AvatarTom
Just curious, how do people here feel about buying an item you know is valuable but the person selling does not? Such as collectable software. Do you feel funny bargaining down a price when you know it is worth a lot more than what you are paying? I kind of figured myself that the knowledge of

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-21 Thread Pedro Quaresma
To me, games in 5.25 floppies are more valuable than their 3.5 counterparts. Why? The extra sleeves. Some games have really nice sleeves on their 5.25 games. The Softworld edition of the Origin (Ultima/Wing Commander) games spring to mind -- Pedro R. Quaresma Salvador Caetano IMVT Div. Sistemas

Re: [SWCollect] Ethical question

2004-01-21 Thread Dan Chisarick
I guess that depends on how you assess the value. No one here has bought a classic game that they themselves wouldn't have paid a few more dollars to have. Some come at the breaking point, but I'd reckon most don't hit that level. Also, sometimes you see two newer collectors on ebay overbid on

RE: [SWCollect] Ethical question

2004-01-21 Thread Per-Olof Karlsson
I think that for every given deal there is a fair price. That price is simply what the buyer agrees to pay and what the seller is willing to sell for. If both buyer and seller are in agreement, its the right price for that item at the given time. Of course, this doesnt match the

Re: [SWCollect] Modern classics

2004-01-21 Thread hughfalk
Pedro, you misunderstood. I was commenting on Marco's statement: "but failed to realize it'll lower the number of units sold, asthere won't be much left that distinguishes a bought game from a warezversion." Marco was saying that DVD cases would adversely affect the number of units sold. My

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-21 Thread Edward Franks
On Jan 20, 2004, at 10:31 PM, Jim Leonard wrote: [Snip] Or am I the only one who executed a round of attacks in an RPG and sat with baited breath while the disk drive paused, whirred, taunting me with the result until finally the results were printed? I can remember playing Ultima III and

Re: [SWCollect] Modern classics

2004-01-21 Thread hughfalk
Of course you can. There are lots of criteria you can judge mistakes by, but in the games industry, number of units sold is the most common and least subjective method. It is especially important since it usually determines if you get to continue making games in the future. Hugh-Original

Re: [SWCollect] Modern classics

2004-01-21 Thread hughfalk
I don't have more specific data handy (out of town right now), but here is a breakdown of UK sales across all platforms: 1 - NEED FOR SPEED: UNDERGROUND 2 - GRAND THEFT AUTO: DOUBLE PACK 3 - THE SIMPSONS: HIT RUN 4 - FIFA 2004 5 - LORD OF THE RINGS: RETURN OF THE KING 6 - NORTON INTERNET

[SWCollect] Would YOU bid on this?

2004-01-21 Thread Jim Leonard
Breakers, PC: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemcategory=11047item=3073316574 If I didn't already have one coming in the mail I'd bid on this, except... it's pretty badly crushed. Still shrinkwrapped, but crushed. My question to the list: How many of you hold shrinkwrapping so

Re: [SWCollect] Only opened slightly for pictures...

2004-01-21 Thread C.E. Forman
I've heard from one cartridge collector who bought a bunch of sealed SNES games, only to find out the seller took the original, more valuable cartridges out and replaced them with cheap-o titles before reshrinking, so he could sell the same game twice, thinking no one would ever open the wrap.

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-21 Thread C.E. Forman
Yep, I found him right away. His eBay ID too. LMK if you want him on my jerk-list, he definitely qualifies. B-} - Original Message - From: Feldhamer, Stuart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2004 3:53 PM Subject: RE: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-21 Thread C.E. Forman
- The CDROM version of Return to Zork was produced in greater numbers than the floppy-disk version, so theoretically the diskette version is worth more. Rarer, but not necessarily worth more, except maybe to a few collectors or RTZ fanatics. Who wants to actually play the floppy version,

Re: [SWCollect] Ethical question

2004-01-21 Thread C.E. Forman
When this one comes up, I always try to strike a balance between me and the seller. If I can make the seller really happy with the amount he's getting, and me still really happy with the price I'm paying, great. On the other hand, you definitely should get rewarded for knowing what other

Re: [SWCollect] Ethical question

2004-01-21 Thread C.E. Forman
How many sellers would tell a buyer they are paying too much? Yo. B-) The Shoppe, anyway. If the person uses the Shoppe's offer button and goes way too high, it's coded to cut the price down to a more reasonable level (albeit the maximum reasonable price I have entered in the database).

Re: [SWCollect] Would YOU bid on this?

2004-01-21 Thread C.E. Forman
Breakers, PC: I'd go maybe $20 max. More, $30 or so if I didn't have one already. But that's me. My question to the list: How many of you hold shrinkwrapping so highly that a badly crushed wrapped is worth more than a good condition unwrapped? Amazingly, NOT me! The game package itself

RE: [SWCollect] Ethical question

2004-01-21 Thread Josh Lulewicz
How many sellers would tell a buyer they are paying too much? I know I pay way too much :( I think a few members here can certainly back me up on that one. -- This message was sent to you because you are currently

RE: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-21 Thread Stuart Feldhamer
I refuse to accept responsibility for this decision. : ) Stuart -Original Message- From: C.E. Forman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 6:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s Yep, I found him right away. His eBay ID too. LMK if

RE: [SWCollect] Would YOU bid on this?

2004-01-21 Thread Stuart Feldhamer
For some reason, it seems like this game is not as rare as people thought it was. Stuart -Original Message- From: C.E. Forman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 6:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Would YOU bid on this? Breakers, PC: I'd go

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-21 Thread C.E. Forman
Then you leave it in my capable hands. B-) - Original Message - From: Stuart Feldhamer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 6:22 PM Subject: RE: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s I refuse to accept responsibility for this decision. : ) Stuart

Re: [SWCollect] Modern classics

2004-01-21 Thread Marco Thorek
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I don't have more specific data handy (out of town right now), but here is a breakdown of UK sales across all platforms: 1 - NEED FOR SPEED: UNDERGROUND 2 - GRAND THEFT AUTO: DOUBLE PACK 3 - THE SIMPSONS: HIT RUN 4 - FIFA 2004 5 - LORD OF THE RINGS: RETURN

Re: [SWCollect] Bah, ebay/paypal

2004-01-21 Thread Marco Thorek
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Just won an item on ebay. The email I received from the seller must have gone through ebay as it contained this message. [Image] Never pay for your item with an instant cash transfer service such as MoneyGram or Western Union. These services are like

Re: [SWCollect] Bah, ebay/paypal

2004-01-21 Thread Stefan Lindblom
Yeah, I got the same mail.. or rather it was info on the side in a mail another person sent to me through Ebay. Here is what it said: Never respond to an unsolicited email that includes incentives to buy or sell an item off the eBay Marketplace. If you get such an email, please report it

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-21 Thread Edward Franks
On Jan 21, 2004, at 5:24 PM, C.E. Forman wrote: - The CDROM version of Return to Zork was produced in greater numbers than the floppy-disk version, so theoretically the diskette version is worth more. Rarer, but not necessarily worth more, except maybe to a few collectors or RTZ fanatics. Who

Re: [SWCollect] Modern classics

2004-01-21 Thread Dan Chisarick
Between games being super-realistic (compared to classic games at least) and most new gamers not knowing how good a well-packaged game could be, the buyers don't know what they're missing and could probably care less. I bet these same people don't watch AMC either. Gotta love writing for

Re: [SWCollect] Ethical question

2004-01-21 Thread Dan Chisarick
Ok, you win that. Just curious, how often does that particular piece of code see instruction pointer (the one that lowers bids)? On Jan 21, 2004, at 6:36 PM, C.E. Forman wrote: How many sellers would tell a buyer they are paying too much? Yo. B-) The Shoppe, anyway. If the person uses the

Re: [SWCollect] 5.25s vs. 3.5s

2004-01-21 Thread Jim Leonard
Edward Franks wrote: I can remember playing Ultima III and trying to beat the disk drive if my party died. It was a bad habit to get into though.I used to restart the game when a whirlpool nailed my ship God, yes!! Those were the days -- days when you were actually faster than

Re: [SWCollect] Would YOU bid on this?

2004-01-21 Thread Jim Leonard
Stuart Feldhamer wrote: For some reason, it seems like this game is not as rare as people thought it was. No, it is. It's just coincidence that three have popped up in the last three months. -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED])http://www.oldskool.org/ Want to help an ambitious