RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
end of the Golden Age of Gaming (by GOTCHA's definition), you have to love that gameCarmack sure knows how to make them ;-)) ^^^ DO I NEED TO KILL YOU FOR THAT REMARK??!!! ;P~~ - John -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
That reminds me of another good poll for you guys. I mentioned some of the best games I got for free. But I'd be curious...what is the most you paid for a single game? I don't want to know about a group of games...just one game. Well, I may have been horribly raped back in 1998, but I paid $800 for my Akalabeth. !!! - John -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
I havn't got any spectacular tales to write about, but these are my best finds: Three copies of [MS(T)] Worlds of Ultima 2 Martian Dreams for $8 each. Ultima 8 by Softworld (the Chinese editor of Origin games) for $5 A huge bundle of Apple 2 games that included Ultima CPC (with manual) and other rare games (incomplete U2, etc) for $100 shipped. Another huge bundle of Apple 2 games that included another Ultima CPC (disk only) and other rare games (Autoduel complete, some Wizardries, U3, U4) for another $100 shipped. I was given the box of the autographed 10th Anniversary Worlds of Ultima Savage Empire. No contents, just the box. -- Pedro R. Quaresma Salvador Caetano IMVT Div. Sistemas de Informação / Systems and Information Division Administração e Desenvolvimento Lotus Notes / Lotus Notes Admnistration and Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] // +351 22 7867000 (ext. 3492) It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein http://www.salvador-caetano.pt http://www.globalshop.pt
RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
I don't think you have been raped, I believe there was a floppy only Akalabeth that was sold (more or less recently) on eBay for $1000. To avoid severe budget strains, I have commited myself not to spend more than $50 USDs per game. Of course I'd break this rule on extreme exceptions (Akalabeth on eBay with a BIN of $51 ? ;) ), but so far it wasn't necessary. I think my record is still $35 on a [MS] Ultima 2nd trilogy Deluxe edition! :) -- Pedro R. Quaresma Salvador Caetano IMVT Div. Sistemas de Informação / Systems and Information Division Administração e Desenvolvimento Lotus Notes / Lotus Notes Admnistration and Development [EMAIL PROTECTED] // +351 22 7867000 (ext. 3492) It has become appallingly obvious that our technology has exceeded our humanity. - Albert Einstein Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] A/C: Ref: cc: Assunto: RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? John Romero [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11-11-2002 08:54 Solicita-se resposta a john That reminds me of another good poll for you guys. I mentioned some of the best games I got for free. But I'd be curious...what is the most you paid for a single game? I don't want to know about a group of games...just one game. Well, I may have been horribly raped back in 1998, but I paid $800 for my Akalabeth. !!! - John -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect@oldskool.org/ ToyotaShopping - A sua Loja Toyota Online http://www.toyota.pt
RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
Apple EA: I keep the stuff sorted by publisher, so I could certainly write up a list. I should clarify that its to the best of my knowledge (37 titles is what it looks like). I never had an official catalog of all published titles, but I'm 99% certain I have the kitchen sink. I've trolled archives, newsgroups, old mags, etc. to find names Most I paid for a game was what we'll call major oops. New to ebay, had only actively started collecting for a few months, I put in a safety bid to keep snipers away and someone apparently did the same. So for a shrinkwrapped copy of Starflight I coughed up $250 bucks. I learned two valuable lessions that day and in the coming months: 1) Only bid what you're actually willing to pay 2) In almost every case, no matter how uncommon, there's a high probability that once a title appears, additional copies will appear shortly thereafter. Needless to say the title, while highly prized, can be had for much less. CF had described many moons ago how new collectors skew fair value for titles by doing stuff like this. -Original Message- From: Hugh Falk [mailto:hughfalk;mindspring.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:38 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? Thanks for the minor deity status! I'd actually like to see what the complete EA Apple II catalog looks like. Do you have a list you could send me? Also, does that include IIgs? That reminds me of another good poll for you guys. I mentioned some of the best games I got for free. But I'd be curious...what is the most you paid for a single game? I don't want to know about a group of games...just one game. For me it was Caverns of Callisto (NM), which I paid $111.38 on ebay. Considering I was looking for at least a couple of years, and this was the first one I saw, I'm surprised it didn't go for more. (April of this year). It's possible I've paid more for a single game in the past, but I don't think so (I might be repressing a horrible memory). Hugh -Original Message- From: Dan Chisarick [mailto:junk6;bellatlantic.net] Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 7:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? I spent about 22+ months tracking down every last EA title (complete) made for the Apple ][ (flat, box, game, utility, app, etc.) Of those by far the most satisfying to find: Marble Madness, Realm of Impossibility, One-on-One, Arctic Fox, Adventure Construction Set. Hugh is a tiny god for providing the EA Flatpack reference online :) I have all the Apple ][ Origin titles complete (except Caverns of Callisto, which I missed for $5 on a newsgroup last year). These two sets are by far my most valued, though there are buckets more that I prize as well (mostly RPG's). Both sets have at least one error-free set of disks (why collect if you can't play)? -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
Grrr... I stumbled on a complete VG/NM (somewhere in there) copy of Caverns for the Atari this year, but the Apple version keeps slipping away from me. As before, I'm trying to make disk images off the originals so I can play them in 20 years (or next weekend. Whatever.) The disks have lasted this long. Based on no scientific data whatsoever, I'd say 30 years (2x the max shelf life) is probably the most a disk can be expected to last w/o any special care. Origin apparently had an internal movement at one point to re-release all the classics (for the PC at least). I recall a newsgroup article by an employee at one point (or so they said) that they were going to remove the protection, redo the manual (probably as a PDF) and publish all the goods you can't find anymore (a la Lost Treasures of Infocom), but for free (download). The first one was supposed to be Auto Duel, but the idea was shot down (no suit likes to give away intellectual property for free and all). And for Auto Duel I'm sure SJG (Steve Jackson Games) might have something to say about that too. So, any of you coveted Apple Caverns owners want to let me borrow it for a week? :) (Raucous laughter subsides). Didn't think so. John: swamped w/Wasteland folders yet? -Original Message- From: John Romero [mailto:john;monkeystone.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 1:52 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? I have all the Apple ][ Origin titles complete (except Caverns of Callisto, which I missed for $5 on a newsgroup last year). These two sets are by far my most valued, though there are buckets more that I prize as well (mostly RPG's). Whoa, nice collection! I also love collecting Origin titles; they were one of my favorite game companies (which is also why I loved working for them in the 80's!) I have a mint Caverns of Callisto...heh... ;) - John -Original Message- From: Dan Chisarick [mailto:junk6;bellatlantic.net] Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 9:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? I spent about 22+ months tracking down every last EA title (complete) made for the Apple ][ (flat, box, game, utility, app, etc.) Of those by far the most satisfying to find: Marble Madness, Realm of Impossibility, One-on-One, Arctic Fox, Adventure Construction Set. Hugh is a tiny god for providing the EA Flatpack reference online :) I have all the Apple ][ Origin titles complete (except Caverns of Callisto, which I missed for $5 on a newsgroup last year). These two sets are by far my most valued, though there are buckets more that I prize as well (mostly RPG's). Both sets have at least one error-free set of disks (why collect if you can't play)? -Original Message- From: Edward Franks [mailto:xyzzy;kc.rr.com] Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 10:22 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? On Sunday, November 10, 2002, at 12:45 AM, Hugh Falk wrote: [snip] I'm also proud of my complete collection of EA flat box games...not that they're rare or expensive. I just haven't seen another complete set...anybody on this list collect EA flats? The EA game I have are the common Bards Tale and Wasteland ones. Color me a classic RPGer. :) To expand on your point about not particularly rare or expensive games, I collect the old Avalon Hill computer games. They had some nifty hybrids (computer game with mounted map board and counters) and a messy listing of games. Trying to figure out what games are out there and then finding them is the fun for me. -- Edward Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail- [EMAIL PROTECTED]/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you
RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
:-) JUST A JOKE, OF COURSE! :-) Hey John, if you wouldn't mind, can you share the highlights of your resume with the group? Not so much the games (which a lot of us know), but the roles you played on the teams. I didn't know about your time at Origin, for example. If this is already well documented somewhere, feel free to send a link. Hugh -Original Message- From: John Romero [mailto:john;monkeystone.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? end of the Golden Age of Gaming (by GOTCHA's definition), you have to love that gameCarmack sure knows how to make them ;-)) ^^^ DO I NEED TO KILL YOU FOR THAT REMARK??!!! ;P~~ - John -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Time for my introduction
Stefan Lindblom stated: And yes, I have that Trail Map, still in shrink though so I dont know what it looks like.. have to get another one perhaps.. someday. IIRC, it doesn't have much detail. It's about like the maps in the books, except a little less obviously made of hex-shaped pieces (again, IIRC). Do you have the Nintendo Entertainment System (NES), or maybe Famicom where you live, I'm not sure, version of DragonStrike? Far inferior to the PC version, which I have. I never managed to finish it, though. I'll have to go back and try again someday. The sequel to Heroes of the Lance was called Dragons of Flame, same kind of engine(or lack of one). Both sucked, I agree, dont blame you for selling them. I of course have quite a few copies of them but I never said I was sane either ;) Yeah, well ask my how many copies of Space Invaders or Missile Command I have for the Atari 2600 and plan to keep. (They're label variations.) -- Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
Sounds reasonable to me...it would go for a lot more today. Is this for one of the Computerland versions? If so, it would definitely go for more. The big wildcard is that Richard Garriott seems to be making new ones with his original materials. I think we already debated the value of those in this group...and it would probably still go for more. Hugh -Original Message- From: John Romero [mailto:john;monkeystone.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? That reminds me of another good poll for you guys. I mentioned some of the best games I got for free. But I'd be curious...what is the most you paid for a single game? I don't want to know about a group of games...just one game. Well, I may have been horribly raped back in 1998, but I paid $800 for my Akalabeth. !!! - John -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
Hugh Falk stated: AH was one of the most prolific publishers of the early 80's, but I guess their products overlapped and were just overshadowed by SSI. I didn't buy many computer games in the early '80s. Now that I think about it, I don't think my family had a computer until about 1983. And for a long time we only had one floppy disk for each of us because they were so expensive. Our entire software collection probably consisted of AppleWriter, MasterType (my parents' idea), and Choplifter for a year or so. But I digress Anyway, I didn't even know Avalon Hill made computer games until I found a copy of Andromeda Conquest at a closeout store. I think it was probably about $10, which was very cheap for software back then. Somewhere (hopefully at my parent's house) I still have it and the box. Lee just pointed out an AH game I have to put on my want list...Incunabula. Anybody have one for trade or sale? BTW, Hugh, it occurs to me that it's possible that game only came out for DOS compuers. I notice very little of your AH collection is DOS. Epyx is another company I heavily collect (http://www.classicgaming.com/gotcha/epyx.htm). Again, I feel one of the most successful (yet underappreciated) publishers of the 80s. I don't know about most successful, but certainly one of the more successful publishers. It's a shame they're gone. -- Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
Dan Chisarick stated: I spent about 22+ months tracking down every last EA title (complete) made for the Apple ][ (flat, box, game, utility, app, etc.) Of those by far the most satisfying to find: Marble Madness, Realm of Impossibility, One-on-One, Arctic Fox, Adventure Construction Set. Hugh is a tiny god for providing the EA Flatpack reference online :) That reminds me, I've got a copy of Skyfox that has rectangular, yellow stickers with red text reading DEMO COPY / line / NOT FOR RESALE on it. There's one on the front, one that was apparently holding the folio closed, and another on the disk. (The reference card is missing.) Anyone know the origin of these stickers? Was it a pre-release, a copy for review, a copy for a store to load on a computer for customers to try, or something else? -- Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
Dan Chisarick stated: Mega off-topic: There are emulators for PDA's... so where are the joysticks? Who wants to abuse the integrated buttons for those things, anyway? :) I guess its called the external keyboard. Sigh. Back on topic: Add Rescue Raiders to the list of gems. I never thought I'd get that, let alone a Demo copy (used the cheat keys/level skip keys... all the levels are intact. Demo copies of some titles are incomplete, some are full copies w/a DEMO sticker on them. This seems to be the latter.) Guess I should read ahead before posting. Okay, so how can I tell if my copy of Skyfox (for the Apple II, BTW) is a full copy or not? I don't have any other copies to compare it against. Any cheat keys I should try? -- Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
Dan Chisarick stated: Mega off-topic: There are emulators for PDA's... so where are the joysticks? Who wants to abuse the integrated buttons for those things, anyway? :) I guess its called the external keyboard. Sigh. Drat, forgot my reply to this part in my last post. There are joysticks for PDAs (e.g. http://www.tt-tec.com/html/Products/T102.htm), they're just not well supported by the games due to a lack of standards. -- Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
That reminds me, I've got a copy of Skyfox that has rectangular, yellow stickers with red text reading DEMO COPY / line / NOT FOR RESALE on it. There's one on the front, one that was apparently holding the folio closed, and another on the disk. (The reference card is missing.) Anyone know the origin of these stickers? Was it a pre-release, a copy for review, a copy for a store to load on a computer for customers to try, or something else? Hey, if you want Ray Tobey to sign your Skyfox, I could probably arrange that, too. ;) - John -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
On Sunday, November 10, 2002, at 09:36 PM, C.E. Forman wrote: [Snip] I've been thinking about this... and wouldn't it be safer to play off backup copies? I mean, the disk could get munched in the drive, the label could get scratched going in and out... or is that attitude too anal for the rest of this group? B-) If you can make backup copies. Grrr. Magazines like The Computist can be invaluable if you just want to make your legal backups. -- Edward Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
In high school and college, I worked in video-game retail throughout the mid-to-late 80s (at an Atari/Commodore/Apple store and later at EB). We would get demo copies just like you describe for store display. However, they probably could have been used for any of the purposes you mention. Hugh On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:21:06 -0600 (CST) Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan Chisarick stated: I spent about 22+ months tracking down every last EA title (complete) made for the Apple ][ (flat, box, game, utility, app, etc.) Of those by far the most satisfying to find: Marble Madness, Realm of Impossibility, One-on-One, Arctic Fox, Adventure Construction Set. Hugh is a tiny god for providing the EA Flatpack reference online :) That reminds me, I've got a copy of Skyfox that has rectangular, yellow stickers with red text reading DEMO COPY / line / NOT FOR RESALE on it. There's one on the front, one that was apparently holding the folio closed, and another on the disk. (The reference card is missing.) Anyone know the origin of these stickers? Was it a pre-release, a copy for review, a copy for a store to load on a computer for customers to try, or something else? -- Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
On Sunday, November 10, 2002, at 10:32 PM, Dan Chisarick wrote: [Snip] Mega off-topic: There are emulators for PDA's... so where are the joysticks? Who wants to abuse the integrated buttons for those things, anyway? :) I guess its called the external keyboard. Sigh. Sony has a game pad you can connect to their Clie PDAs if you want a PalmOS device. http://www.palminfocentre.com/view_story.asp?ID=4295 -- Edward Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
The ones we got were consistantly full copies...never modified, except for the sticker to prevent the reseller from making money on it. Hugh On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:25:18 -0600 (CST) Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan Chisarick stated: Mega off-topic: There are emulators for PDA's... so where are the joysticks? Who wants to abuse the integrated buttons for those things, anyway? :) I guess its called the external keyboard. Sigh. Back on topic: Add Rescue Raiders to the list of gems. I never thought I'd get that, let alone a Demo copy (used the cheat keys/level skip keys... all the levels are intact. Demo copies of some titles are incomplete, some are full copies w/a DEMO sticker on them. This seems to be the latter.) Guess I should read ahead before posting. Okay, so how can I tell if my copy of Skyfox (for the Apple II, BTW) is a full copy or not? I don't have any other copies to compare it against. Any cheat keys I should try? -- Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
On Sunday, November 10, 2002, at 11:38 PM, Hugh Falk wrote: [Snip] That reminds me of another good poll for you guys. I mentioned some of the best games I got for free. But I'd be curious...what is the most you paid for a single game? I don't want to know about a group of games...just one game. The most I've actually paid for a game -- I've bid higher, but not won the auction -- was ~$675 for an orange castle coversheet Akalabeth. (:chuckle: I needed the coversheet as those are what I'm missing from my other Akalabeth and my Ultima.) For me, the interesting thing is that the seller was one of the programmers for Arena and Daggerfall. It is cool to see that the people who develop the games are as serious collectors as us. -- Edward Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
On Monday, November 11, 2002, at 12:04 AM, John Romero wrote: Hmm. Now I have an urge to go find Dungeon Campaign and Wilderness Campaign... Yes! I have mint copies of these two as well. Man, I am pretty loaded with Synergistic Software. :) Why do I have the feeling that the list of games you want, but don't have is pretty small? ;-) Is there anything in particular that you're still looking for? On a more general note, I'd love to see everyone's collections some time. I feel like a dilettante compared to the rest of you. grin -- Edward Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] [SWCollect] What's your favorite find?
On Monday, November 11, 2002, at 06:36 AM, Alexander Zoller wrote: [Snip] Favorite finds: items previously believed to NOT exist. Ultima III by US Gold, for example, or the slipcased Ultima Trilogy. Was this a US version? -- Edward Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Time for my introduction
On Monday, November 11, 2002, at 10:43 AM, Lee K. Seitz wrote: [Snip] Yeah, well ask my how many copies of Space Invaders or Missile Command I have for the Atari 2600 and plan to keep. (They're label variations.) Ah. the 2600. :-D I keep one around to occasionally play Adventure. I bought the Sears version of both when they first came out with the money I had earned that summer. My brother and I spent all night playing Adventure and the other games we bought. The funny thing was that we found the easter egg 'dot' that night, but never realized what it was for until many years later! -- Edward Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
[SWCollect] Greetings from The Origin Museum
I was told about this board some time ago, but I finally got the time to join--YAY! I know most of the people here, but for those who don't remember me, I'm Joe Garrity, and I (along with my wife, Paula) run a website called The Origin Museum. We specialise in old computer games and artifacts from Origin. Our domain name was hijacked a few days ago (while I was on vacation), but we're still available thru this link: http://originmuseum.solsector.net Almost all of the people that I see on this board have been incredibly nice to us in the past, and I'd like to take this time to personally thank them for all the help, conversations, and fun that you've given Paula and me. Thanks for letting us contribute to the board, and we hope to hear from you very soon! ...Preserving Worlds Joe Garrity Curator of The Origin Museum http://originmuseum.solsector.net - Express yourself with a super cool email address from BigMailBox.com. Hundreds of choices. It's free! http://www.bigmailbox.com - -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] [SWCollect] What's your favorite find?
Was this a US version? No, it was a European release by Microprose. They used to distribute Origin's games in sturdy, small-sized, two-piece cardboard boxes (same measurements as the Rainbird blue boxes -- a bunch of Level 9 and Magnetic Scrolls titles came in these). For some inscrutable reason, they took the same box type for the Trilogy again but used an additional slipcase, leaving the box halfs plain and white. It has been speculated this happened right before their joint venture with Origin ended (the license was turned over to Mindscape), and they may have been pressed for time. This seems to be confirmed by the fact that instead of printing a custom-sized manual for this release, they simply 'trimmed' the Trilogy's manual by about an inch so it would fit in the box. I can email you some pics. Also of the US Gold U3 if interested. /Alexander -Original Message- From: Edward Franks [mailto:xyzzy;kc.rr.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] [SWCollect] What's your favorite find? On Monday, November 11, 2002, at 06:36 AM, Alexander Zoller wrote: [Snip] Favorite finds: items previously believed to NOT exist. Ultima III by US Gold, for example, or the slipcased Ultima Trilogy. Was this a US version? -- Edward Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
[SWCollect] What's your favorite find?
Sorry to start a new thread here, but I've got some catching up to do! :) Here are some of my favorite finds: 1. Lord British Starter Kit--Akalabeth and Ultima 1 sold together by California Pacific--still in the original baggie (also the most I ever paid for a title--$1,200.00 in a bundle w/about 20 other worthless titles--does this price set some kind of record?) 2. 2 original release Akalabeths--please see my article for detailed information. http://originmuseum.solsector.net/stories/story1.htm 3. Caverns of Callisto--Just because it's caused more buzzing from collectors recently--it wasn't that hard for me to find! :) 4. Savage Empire Special Edition-autographed (WITH the T-Shirt) 5. Ultima 1 for Atari 400/800-(breathes a sigh of relief after checking for counterfieiting!--Thanks for your diligence, guys!) 6. The Origin Audio CD-Volume 1--Not really a software title, but very hard to find. I found this in a used software store, and bought it for 5 BUCKS! LOADS of other stuff!--after re-reading this, I can't seem to decide on any 1 find... - Express yourself with a super cool email address from BigMailBox.com. Hundreds of choices. It's free! http://www.bigmailbox.com - -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] What's your favorite find?
On Monday, November 11, 2002, at 02:24 PM, Origin Museum wrote: [Snip] 1. Lord British Starter Kit--Akalabeth and Ultima 1 sold together by California Pacific--still in the original baggie (also the most I ever paid for a title--$1,200.00 in a bundle w/about 20 other worthless titles--does this price set some kind of record?) I don't believe so, not for an Ultima-related title. I vaguely remember someone complaining about snipers on Usenet after they lost an Ultima around $1,500. I could be wrong on that one, though. I do know that a shrinkwrapped Starcross saucer went for $2,000 on eBay. Oh, by the way, I got the $250 figure from a gentlemen who was at the UO Faire where that Akalabeth was auctioned. Normally he is reliable about such things. -- Edward Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] [SWCollect] What's your favorite find?
On Monday, November 11, 2002, at 02:27 PM, Alexander Zoller wrote: [Snip] o, it was a European release by Microprose. They used to distribute Origin's games in sturdy, small-sized, two-piece cardboard boxes (same measurements as the Rainbird blue boxes -- a bunch of Level 9 and Magnetic Scrolls titles came in these). For some inscrutable reason, they took the same box type for the Trilogy again but used an additional slipcase, leaving the box halfs plain and white. It has been speculated this happened right before their joint venture with Origin ended (the license was turned over to Mindscape), and they may have been pressed for time. This seems to be confirmed by the fact that instead of printing a custom-sized manual for this release, they simply 'trimmed' the Trilogy's manual by about an inch so it would fit in the box. Ah, that sounds like my CPC Progame version of Ultima. My Japanese version only differs from the regular version by the addition of a cheap photocopy of the manual that was partially written in Japanese Kanji (?). I can email you some pics. Also of the US Gold U3 if interested. I'd like to see those. I always thought that the US Gold box for U4 was one of the best. -- Edward Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
RE: [SWCollect] What's your favorite find?
Welcome aboard, Joe! Haven't heard from you in a while. By the way, I couldn't link to your story below. Hugh -Original Message- From: Origin Museum [mailto:originmuseum;crius.net] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 12:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SWCollect] What's your favorite find? Sorry to start a new thread here, but I've got some catching up to do! :) Here are some of my favorite finds: 1. Lord British Starter Kit--Akalabeth and Ultima 1 sold together by California Pacific--still in the original baggie (also the most I ever paid for a title--$1,200.00 in a bundle w/about 20 other worthless titles--does this price set some kind of record?) 2. 2 original release Akalabeths--please see my article for detailed information. http://originmuseum.solsector.net/stories/story1.htm 3. Caverns of Callisto--Just because it's caused more buzzing from collectors recently--it wasn't that hard for me to find! :) 4. Savage Empire Special Edition-autographed (WITH the T-Shirt) 5. Ultima 1 for Atari 400/800-(breathes a sigh of relief after checking for counterfieiting!--Thanks for your diligence, guys!) 6. The Origin Audio CD-Volume 1--Not really a software title, but very hard to find. I found this in a used software store, and bought it for 5 BUCKS! LOADS of other stuff!--after re-reading this, I can't seem to decide on any 1 find... - Express yourself with a super cool email address from BigMailBox.com. Hundreds of choices. It's free! http://www.bigmailbox.com - -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
It sounds like we could get a lot of autographs between the two of us. I could just about throw an EA Flat at Mike Abbott's office (Hard Hat Mack) from where I sit. If anybody wants an autograph, let me know, I don't think he'd mind. John, I'd actually like a Ray Tobey autographed Skyfox if its not too much of a hassle. (I'd have to dig a copy out, but I think I know where that one is). Wastland would be great as well. Let me know if it's not too much trouble. Hugh -Original Message- From: John Romero [mailto:john;monkeystone.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 11:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? That reminds me, I've got a copy of Skyfox that has rectangular, yellow stickers with red text reading DEMO COPY / line / NOT FOR RESALE on it. There's one on the front, one that was apparently holding the folio closed, and another on the disk. (The reference card is missing.) Anyone know the origin of these stickers? Was it a pre-release, a copy for review, a copy for a store to load on a computer for customers to try, or something else? Hey, if you want Ray Tobey to sign your Skyfox, I could probably arrange that, too. ;) - John -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
I've met a lot of collectors in the game development ranks. Which makes sense since a lot of developers get into games because they're passionate about them. Though I've found very few as serious about it as us. Also, I generally run into console (2600, Colecovision) collectors. Steve Meretzky was the only serious PC game collector I met. I know one with an incredible pinball game collection as well. Hugh -Original Message- From: Edward Franks [mailto:xyzzy;kc.rr.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 11:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? On Sunday, November 10, 2002, at 11:38 PM, Hugh Falk wrote: [Snip] That reminds me of another good poll for you guys. I mentioned some of the best games I got for free. But I'd be curious...what is the most you paid for a single game? I don't want to know about a group of games...just one game. The most I've actually paid for a game -- I've bid higher, but not won the auction -- was ~$675 for an orange castle coversheet Akalabeth. (:chuckle: I needed the coversheet as those are what I'm missing from my other Akalabeth and my Ultima.) For me, the interesting thing is that the seller was one of the programmers for Arena and Daggerfall. It is cool to see that the people who develop the games are as serious collectors as us. -- Edward Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
[SWCollect] Found Empire, but still need it (and Fire-Brigade note)
Argh! Went to a thrift store and found a copy of Empire. Got someone to show it to me (it was in a display case) and it was for the Amiga. I bought anyway, even though I shouldn't be spending money on such things. This is my second copy of Empire. The other is for the C-64. I was introduced to this game in college. I spent the week of spring break painstakingly creating a map of North America. (My car was in the shop, so I was trapped on campus with nothing else to do.) I still have my copies of Empire Deluxe and ED Scenarios that I bought new. I was thrilled when I found a copy of ED Masters Edition at a used CD store and got it for less than $10 (IIRC). I never new it existed until then. It was nice to have a version that would run under Windows with only one minor problem. (The DOS version runs, but bad things happen if you try to Alt-Tab away from it and come back.) Why can't I find a friggin' copy of the PC version?!? Okay, I admit I haven't been looking real hard. (As in, I'm not watching eBay.) But in doing so I've found two copies, just not for the right computer. Anyone want to trade a PC copy for an Amiga or C-64 one? (BTW, Jim, thanks for finally adding it to MobyGames. I somehow missed it when you did that.) Also saw an interesting game called Fire-Brigade. I see the company that made it is still around (http://www.panthergames.com/). Anyway, the game was for the PC and came in a case similar to the clamshells that Disney videos come in. Everything seemed to be there, except the 3.5 disk(s?). (The 5.25 disks were there.) Panther Games is an Australian company, so I don't know if this packaging is typical of Australian games, or if it was sold in the U.S. like this or what. I almost bought it, but decided I'd already overspent just getting Empire. Anyone intersted in it? -- Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
Yes! I have mint copies of these two as well. Man, I am pretty loaded with Synergistic Software. :) Got Warlock's Revenge? -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
BTW I have all 89 issues of Computist + the four errata issues. The Super IOB images are on Asimov. Mail me if you're interested in any sort of info, etc. I'm not great, but I've normalized a good stack that weren't in any of those issues. John, if you don't mind yet another question your way... classic game copy protection is one of those perverse fascinations of mine. Some of them (Nassir's 4+4 encoded, spiral quarter-tracked, self-modifying loader-that-sits-on-video-memory with a nibble-count mess) were just unreal. Mercifully, most schemes were home-grown almost-DOS 3.3 variants. When writing games that integrated with copy protection, what considerations did you have to make? Was development done w/the protection in mind, or was it normal file-based code until it was ready for commercial release? -Original Message- From: Edward Franks [mailto:xyzzy;kc.rr.com] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 2:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? On Sunday, November 10, 2002, at 09:36 PM, C.E. Forman wrote: [Snip] I've been thinking about this... and wouldn't it be safer to play off backup copies? I mean, the disk could get munched in the drive, the label could get scratched going in and out... or is that attitude too anal for the rest of this group? B-) If you can make backup copies. Grrr. Magazines like The Computist can be invaluable if you just want to make your legal backups. -- Edward Franks [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
RE: [SWCollect] Found Empire, but still need it (and Fire-Brigade note)
So you're looking for the original Empire for the PC? I never played the PC version (just ST and Amiga). I can't imagine playing that game without a mouse, and I don't think they would have included mouse support for an IBM game in 1987, did they? You might also want to pick up Empire II: The Art of War. This is a Win 95 game from New World Computing. FYI, there is also a scenerio disk (sold seperately) for the Master's Edition, which you have. Hugh -Original Message- From: Lee K. Seitz [mailto:lkseitz;mail.hiwaay.net] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 2:59 PM To: Software Collecting Subject: [SWCollect] Found Empire, but still need it (and Fire-Brigade note) Argh! Went to a thrift store and found a copy of Empire. Got someone to show it to me (it was in a display case) and it was for the Amiga. I bought anyway, even though I shouldn't be spending money on such things. This is my second copy of Empire. The other is for the C-64. I was introduced to this game in college. I spent the week of spring break painstakingly creating a map of North America. (My car was in the shop, so I was trapped on campus with nothing else to do.) I still have my copies of Empire Deluxe and ED Scenarios that I bought new. I was thrilled when I found a copy of ED Masters Edition at a used CD store and got it for less than $10 (IIRC). I never new it existed until then. It was nice to have a version that would run under Windows with only one minor problem. (The DOS version runs, but bad things happen if you try to Alt-Tab away from it and come back.) Why can't I find a friggin' copy of the PC version?!? Okay, I admit I haven't been looking real hard. (As in, I'm not watching eBay.) But in doing so I've found two copies, just not for the right computer. Anyone want to trade a PC copy for an Amiga or C-64 one? (BTW, Jim, thanks for finally adding it to MobyGames. I somehow missed it when you did that.) Also saw an interesting game called Fire-Brigade. I see the company that made it is still around (http://www.panthergames.com/). Anyway, the game was for the PC and came in a case similar to the clamshells that Disney videos come in. Everything seemed to be there, except the 3.5 disk(s?). (The 5.25 disks were there.) Panther Games is an Australian company, so I don't know if this packaging is typical of Australian games, or if it was sold in the U.S. like this or what. I almost bought it, but decided I'd already overspent just getting Empire. Anyone intersted in it? -- Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?
Oh, another thing: y'all probably didn't know that I wrote InfoDOS, Infocom's DOS for Zork Zero and a few of their other games ;) - John -Original Message- From: Dan Chisarick [mailto:junk6;bellatlantic.net] Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 10:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find? John, if you don't mind yet another question your way... classic game copy protection is one of those perverse fascinations of mine. Some of them (Nassir's 4+4 encoded, spiral quarter-tracked, self-modifying loader-that-sits-on-video-memory with a nibble-count mess) were just unreal. Mercifully, most schemes were home-grown almost-DOS 3.3 variants. When writing games that integrated with copy protection, what considerations did you have to make? Was development done w/the protection in mind, or was it normal file-based code until it was ready for commercial release? -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
Re: [SWCollect] Found Empire, but still need it (and Fire-Brigade note)
Hugh Falk stated: So you're looking for the original Empire for the PC? I never played the PC version (just ST and Amiga). I can't imagine playing that game without a mouse, and I don't think they would have included mouse support for an IBM game in 1987, did they? I don't recall, although Jim's MobyGames entry says it didn't. I have a vague recollection of being able to use function keys to scroll the map and everything had a keyboard shortcut, IIRC, so it wasn't too unwieldy. You might also want to pick up Empire II: The Art of War. This is a Win 95 game from New World Computing. Feh. I bought Empire II at a dollar store some years ago. Played it, didn't like it, included it with a second copy of Empire Deluxe I'd found and sold on eBay. I think it's the exploration aspect that appeals to me most. Empire II lacked that. Incidentally, the guy I sold ED to was working on a version for the Palm. Last I heard it had become a project to create a general strategy war game that you could tailor to your desires. I'm probably about due to e-mail him asking for a status again. FYI, there is also a scenerio disk (sold seperately) for the Master's Edition, which you have. There is??? Are you sure? I know there was a Scenario disk for Empire Deluxe that was sold separately, but it's included on the Masters Edition CD-ROM (along with the DOS and Windows versions of ED). I've never heard of an additional Scenario disk beyond that. -- Lee K. Seitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/swcollect;oldskool.org/
