Re: [SWCollect] My RARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! auction
Don't worry Tom, I saved a copy (just too funny not to). It's saved as a Web Archive (MHT) file, which includes all pictures, etc. Speaking of Canadian pennies THEY will be rare soon... They cost 2 cents each to make so the Canadian Mint isgoing to get ridof them in favor of new threenies (or some other horrible name). Three cent coins... not sure what's worse, that or the upcoming $5 coins :( Steve - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2003 6:42 PM Subject: [SWCollect] My RARE!!! auction I ended it a few hours early to avoid joke being played on ME, getting stuck with final value fees ;) If someone has acrobat or some other way of saving the auction for me could you do it please? Would be nice to have a record of it. I did save the actual RARE item for history, if anyone actually wanted it let me know :)By the way Steve, I was going to lower the starting bid to a CANADIAN penny/peso for ya but never got around to it, sorry ;)Thanks,TomVisit my web page for many games for sale/trade and screen shots of Ultima Escape from Mt. Drash, Tom's Ultima, Infocom and RPG page
Re: [SWCollect] My RARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! auction
In a message dated 12/31/2003 4:11:49 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: then the Susan B Anthony (ugly and hard to tell from a quarter) By the way US coins now are very ugly in general compared to the older coins The most beautiful in my eyes were the St Gaudens $20 gold piece and the Walking Liberty half (Mercury Dime not bad either). And the half was silver, much nicer than the clad cupronickel crap we have now. When you dropped one it rang like a bell, the new stuff makes a dull thud. Many of the old coins were quite beautiful, I used to collect/invest in rare coins before the debacle of 1980... OOPS, another clue to my true age!!... Tom Visit my web page for many games for sale/trade and screen shots of Ultima Escape from Mt. Drash, Tom's Ultima, Infocom and RPG page
[SWCollect] Bidpay phone #
Early this month bidpay was having trouble, IE SLOW, in one case over a week and still no second confirm. I hunted down phone number, they took care of it right away. Seems to be back to normal now, latest order got second confirm in less than 24 hours :) 800-350-5952 Visit my web page for many games for sale/trade and screen shots of Ultima Escape from Mt. Drash, Tom's Ultima, Infocom and RPG page
Re: [SWCollect] My RARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! auction
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: rare coins before the debacle of 1980... OOPS, another clue to my true age!!... What debacle? Tom, you may or may not have heard of my father, Robert Leonard. He's co-authored a few numismatic books, and was the president of the Chicago Coin Club for 16 years, then on and off after that. He's spoken at several ANA conventions. -- Jim Leonard ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) World's largest electronic gaming project:http://www.MobyGames.com/ A delicious slice of the demoscene:http://www.MindCandyDVD.com/ Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings: http://www.oldskool.org/ -- This message was sent to you because you are currently subscribed to the swcollect mailing list. To unsubscribe, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of 'unsubscribe swcollect' Archives are available at: http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/
Re: [SWCollect] My RARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! auction
In a message dated 12/31/2003 1:24:46 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What debacle? Well in the late 70s and 1980 rare coins were great favorites for investment (You could literally double your money in a matter of weeks if not days). Problem was there were no set grading standards. Well there WAS, but no one really followed them except for the really honest dealers like Bowers and Ruddy and others I can't remember, there was one in Chicago, maybe Rarecoa? Others like the New England Rare coin gallery were selling coins at a specified grade but they were NOT that grade. For example Uncirculated grade could range from MS60 (Unc/unused but lower end of quality, ie poorly struck, bag marks etc) up to MS70, PERFECT. The value of a coin in MS60 could be $10, same coin in MS70 could be $100s if not thousands. People with no knowledge of grading/coins in general were investing HUGE amounts of money, 5-6 figures or more (sometimes for a single coin), getting what they THOUGHT were properly graded coins. But when they go to sell they find the MS68 coin they paid $1000 for (or whatever) is really MS60 or maybe even AU (almost uncirculated) 59/58 whatever. And the coin is worth maybe 5-10% of what they paid for it if that. People lost huge amounts of money and the hobby has never recovered I had some bad experiences myself and I halfway knew what I was doing, bought a MS64 $10 gold piece from New England for around $900, it was very nicked up, I would say MS60 at best, maybe AU. Sold it for $100 something. And for many people worse than that :( Ask your dad what happened with the rare coin industry around 1980, see if he heard of New England, they were one of the largest culprits. Sad thing is the guy who ran the NE "scam" (and NE was not alone in this, far from it) just came back with a new company after NE went under, at least that is what I heard. Tom, you may or may not have heard of my father, Robert Leonard. He's co-authored a few numismatic books, and was the president of the Chicago Coin Club for 16 years, then on and off after that. He's spoken at several ANA conventions. Have not heard of him, would be interesting to talk with him sometime (or read his books). I might have been ANA member back then, don't remember (oh oh, memory going, ANOTHER clue to my age ;)) Tom Visit my web page for many games for sale/trade and screen shots of Ultima Escape from Mt. Drash, Tom's Ultima, Infocom and RPG page
Re: [SWCollect] My RARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! auction
Hmm, people selling collectibles described as being in better condition than they really are. Why does that sound familiar? (MINT!!! B-) - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [SWCollect] My RARE!!! auction In a message dated 12/31/2003 1:24:46 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What debacle?Well in the late 70s and 1980 rare coins were great favorites for investment (You could literally double your money in a matter of weeks if not days). Problem was there were no set grading standards. Well there WAS, but no one really followed them except for the really honest dealers like Bowers and Ruddy and others I can't remember, there was one in Chicago, maybe Rarecoa? Others like the New England Rare coin gallery were selling coins at a specified grade but they were NOT that grade. For example Uncirculated grade could range from MS60 (Unc/unused but lower end of quality, ie poorly struck, bag marks etc) up to MS70, PERFECT. The value of a coin in MS60 could be $10, same coin in MS70 could be $100s if not thousands. People with no knowledge of grading/coins in general were investing HUGE amounts of money, 5-6 figures or more (sometimes for a single coin), getting what they THOUGHT were properly graded coins. But when they go to sell they find the MS68 coin they paid $1000 for (or whatever) is really MS60 or maybe even AU (almost uncirculated) 59/58 whatever. And the coin is worth maybe 5-10% of what they paid for it if that. People lost huge amounts of money and the hobby has never recovered I had some bad experiences myself and I halfway knew what I was doing, bought a MS64 $10 gold piece from New England for around $900, it was very nicked up, I would say MS60 at best, maybe AU. Sold it for $100 something. And for many people worse than that :( Ask your dad what happened with the rare coin industry around 1980, see if he heard of New England, they were one of the largest culprits. Sad thing is the guy who ran the NE "scam" (and NE was not alone in this, far from it) just came back with a new company after NE went under, at least that is what I heard. Tom, you may or may not have heard of my father, Robert Leonard. He's co-authored a few numismatic books, and was the president of the Chicago Coin Club for 16 years, then on and off after that. He's spoken at several ANA conventions.Have not heard of him, would be interesting to talk with him sometime (or read his books). I might have been ANA member back then, don't remember (oh oh, memory going, ANOTHER clue to my age ;))TomVisit my web page for many games for sale/trade and screen shots of Ultima Escape from Mt. Drash, Tom's Ultima, Infocom and RPG page
