[SWCollect] PayPal Probes

2004-03-09 Thread Lee K. Seitz
With all the discussion of PayPal on this group, I thought I'd point
out this article (http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/04/03/08/2357225.shtml)
on Slashdot, for those that aren't regular readers.  It seems the FTC
is investigating them.

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Re: [SWCollect] PayPal Probes

2004-03-09 Thread AvatarTom
In a message dated 03/09/2004 10:02:07 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


With all the discussion of PayPal on this group, I thought I'd point
out this article (http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/04/03/08/2357225.shtml)
on Slashdot, for those that aren't regular readers. It seems the FTC
is investigating them.


About time ;) Thanks for link.
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Re: [SWCollect] Red Crystal, the Seven Secrets of Life

2004-03-09 Thread Jim Leonard
Stephane Racle wrote:

It was easier to find than I thought... Looks like an RPG with modem play!
Really?  What year?  I believe American Challenge: A Sailing Simulation 
was semi-officially the first modem 2-player game but I'd always like 
more data for MobyGames.
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Re: [SWCollect] Red Crystal, the Seven Secrets of Life

2004-03-09 Thread Stephane Racle
This would be more recent. The box says 1993.

Jim Leonard wrote:

Stephane Racle wrote:

It was easier to find than I thought... Looks like an RPG with modem 
play!


Really?  What year?  I believe American Challenge: A Sailing 
Simulation was semi-officially the first modem 2-player game but I'd 
always like more data for MobyGames.


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Re: [SWCollect] Ok....melt wizard...

2004-03-09 Thread Jim Leonard
Stuart Feldhamer wrote:

Hey, if I was nerdy, I would have played those text adventure games instead
of the cool sports games. : ) Uh, wait a sec...
I didn't find the question THAT nerdy because you had a movie reference 
to check.  If I asked a question like What was the first game to use 
speech SYNTHESIS (ie. not pre-recorded sound)?, then THAT would be nerdy.
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Re: [SWCollect] Ok....melt wizard...

2004-03-09 Thread Chris Newman
Um, Creepy Corridors?

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Okmelt wizard...


 Stuart Feldhamer wrote:

  Hey, if I was nerdy, I would have played those text adventure games
instead
  of the cool sports games. : ) Uh, wait a sec...

 I didn't find the question THAT nerdy because you had a movie reference
 to check.  If I asked a question like What was the first game to use
 speech SYNTHESIS (ie. not pre-recorded sound)?, then THAT would be nerdy.
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Re: [SWCollect] Spyware

2004-03-09 Thread Jim Leonard
Spybot Search and Destroy is slightly better than Ad-Aware, but has a 
slightly less intuitive interface.  It's the one I use.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I had a LOT of spyware on my computer as I've been using same 
drive/programs for a long time (like close to 100 spybots). If you'd 
like to check these sites are free (scan and REMOVE, many ask you to pay 
to remove). If anyone runs I'd be interested in hearing results (see if 
anyone has more than I did). I run both as spyware items are hard coded 
it seems, one might find some the other misses.

http://www.safer-networking.org/
http://www.lavasoftusa.com/
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Re: [SWCollect] Spyware

2004-03-09 Thread Jim Leonard
Don't enable preview for attachments, because some exploits have been 
written to take advantage of that behavior.  Instead, simply don't open 
any attachment at all unless you know what it is and who it came from.

BL wrote:

Spyware is really common now in days - if you've had an active PC for a 
while, then suddenly decide to run these programs, yes, you are 
absolutely going to find a lot of stuff, from tracking cookies and 
dialers to memory resident programs  hijacks you didnt even know were 
starting at boot-up.  I know first hand, since I'm the computer-savy one 
of the family, I've seen some seriously messed up computers, and it's 
gotten about 10 times as bad in the past 2 or 3 years.  Ad-aware is the 
best thing you can do for it, combined with educating yourself on a few 
tecniques for removal.  I run Ad-aware once a week after doing the 
online update to the definitions file and I find anywhere from 25-50 new 
malicious components -- for the most part, just cookies from blacklisted 
hosts.  That combined with checking my task manager's running processes 
every so often to make sure there's nothing i don't recognize running.  
Prevention is the best defense as always, and the best tips I can give 
are: Enable preview for attachments in Outlook Express, and never Open 
them, save them to disk.  When surfing websites, never click a windows 
pop-up box that gives you an Ok / Cancel choice or something like that 
-- malicious coders often spoof an approval to install something on your 
computer with such misleading dialogs.  When those pop-up, use ALT-F4 to 
close it, without choosing either.  And of course, make sure you are up 
to date with all the Windows XP / Explorer / Outlook security patches 
from Microsoft.com.

- Original Message -
*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Monday, March 08, 2004 8:22 AM
*Subject:* [SWCollect] Spyware
I had a LOT of spyware on my computer as I've been using same
drive/programs for a long time (like close to 100 spybots). If you'd
like to check these sites are free (scan and REMOVE, many ask you to
pay to remove). If anyone runs I'd be interested in hearing results
(see if anyone has more than I did). I run both as spyware items are
hard coded it seems, one might find some the other misses.
http://www.safer-networking.org/
http://www.lavasoftusacom/
Tom



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Re: [SWCollect] Ok....melt wizard...

2004-03-09 Thread Chris Newman
'82 I think. It was mentioned in the book 'Hackers' by Steven Levy
- Original Message - 
From: Jim Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Okmelt wizard...


 Chris Newman wrote:

  Um, Creepy Corridors?

 What year was it?

 First speech *synthesis* game for PC was Metropolis; for other
 platforms, I'm not sure.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jim Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 4:56 PM
  Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Okmelt wizard...
 
 
 
 Stuart Feldhamer wrote:
 
 
 Hey, if I was nerdy, I would have played those text adventure games
 
  instead
 
 of the cool sports games. : ) Uh, wait a sec...
 
 I didn't find the question THAT nerdy because you had a movie reference
 to check.  If I asked a question like What was the first game to use
 speech SYNTHESIS (ie. not pre-recorded sound)?, then THAT would be
nerdy.
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 Various oldskool PC rants and ramblings:   http://www.oldskool.org/
 
 
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[SWCollect] Wireless Optical Mouse and ebay

2004-03-09 Thread AvatarTom
Need wireless rechargable optical mouse. Anyone have suggestions (want cheap, maybe $25 shipped?). Tried ebay but most sellers have shipping cost of $11-20 (yes for one mouse), I refuse to buy from such a seller. Ebay needs new search function, shipping cost search, taking way too long to find one with reasonable s+h (probably searched 20 auctions, don't have time for that crap).

Thanks,
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Re: [SWCollect] Spyware

2004-03-09 Thread Marco Thorek
I have a personal firewall on my system, less of fear that someone might
try to come in, but that something might try to phone home. 

For example, a couple of weeks ago I installed a friend's OCR software
for testing and it installed a TSR along with it: even when the OCR
program wasn't running, the freaking thing tried to contact its makers.

The firewall also quarantines any suspicious mail attachments, but as
mail client I use good ole' Navigator 4.54 anyway. Some of those
attachments aim for weaknesses in OE, and my Navigator is simply too old
to understand all that fancy stuff. 

A program I can wholeheartedly reccommend in this context is Robin
Keir's K9, that uses a Bayes algorithm to weed out spam (and things like
the important update from Microsoft alongs with it):

http://www.keir.net/k9.html

BTW, the hottest issue regarding those little malicious buggers around
here in Germany were and are dialers - trojans that replace your
normal internet connection without your knowledge with 0190 numbers (for
you Americans: 1-900 numbers). For dial-up users this generated some
hefty bills.

The billing's done by the phone companies who own the lines and so they
send all their might and lawyers after you, if you don't pay. They don't
do that out of any unselfishness either, as a certain percentage of the
generated income goes to them for providing the line. 

It has been until now that a higher court here in Germany decided that a
user fooled that way must not pay and that the phone company cannot ask
for more than what would have been generated through use of the normal
internet connection. 

Is the rest of the world as ridden by those dialers as we are around
here?

Marco

[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
 
 I had a LOT of spyware on my computer as I've been using same
 drive/programs for a long time (like close to 100 spybots). If you'd
 like to check these sites are free (scan and REMOVE, many ask you to
 pay to remove). If anyone runs I'd be interested in hearing results
 (see if anyone has more than I did). I run both as spyware items are
 hard coded it seems, one might find some the other misses.
 
 http://www.safer-networking.org/
 http://www.lavasoftusa.com/
 
 Tom
 
 Visit my web page for many games for sale/trade and screen shots of
 Ultima Escape from Mt. Drash,  Tom's Ultima, Infocom and RPG page

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Re: [SWCollect] Wireless Optical Mouse and ebay

2004-03-09 Thread Marco Thorek
Well, the Porsche among the wireless optical is Logitech's MX 700 (MX
900 if you want it as Bluetooth). It uses double the dpi your standard
optical uses and is as accurate as a corded mouse. It also uses
rechargeable batteries, which is a lot cheaper in the long run than
buying batteries again and again - at night or during breaks you put it
on its recharge station.

Only problem: The mouse is beyond your price range. At the moment it
should sell for €79, which should be about the same in $.

Your alternative would the Cordless MouseMan Optical, which I used until
I replaced it with the MX 700. It is not as precise as the latter, but
if you aren't into FPS that shouldn't matter much to you. On Ebay you
should be able to get a used one comparatively cheap.

(Or heah, buy mine! :-)

Marco

[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
 
 Need wireless rechargable optical mouse. Anyone have suggestions (want
 cheap, maybe $25 shipped?). Tried ebay but most sellers have shipping
 cost of $11-20 (yes for one mouse), I refuse to buy from such a
 seller. Ebay needs new search function, shipping cost search, taking
 way too long to find one with reasonable s+h (probably searched 20
 auctions, don't have time for that crap).
 
 Thanks,
 Tom
 
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 Ultima Escape from Mt. Drash,  Tom's Ultima, Infocom and RPG page

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Re: [SWCollect] Wireless Optical Mouse and ebay

2004-03-09 Thread Stephane Racle




I have a Microsoft Wireless Intellimouse Explorer 2.0, and I have to
admit it works quite well. No lag, quite comfortable to use, and the
batteries last for a while. It was bought new for CAN $50, so it
shouldn't be too far off your mark...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Need wireless rechargable
optical mouse. Anyone have suggestions (want cheap, maybe $25
shipped?). Tried ebay but most sellers have shipping cost of $11-20
(yes for one mouse), I refuse to buy from such a seller. Ebay needs new
search function, shipping cost search, taking way too long to find one
with reasonable s+h (probably searched 20 auctions, don't have time for
that crap).
  
Thanks,
Tom
  
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Ultima Escape from Mt. Drash, Tom's
Ultima, Infocom and RPG page 




Re: [SWCollect] Spyware

2004-03-09 Thread Jim Leonard
Marco Thorek wrote:

For example, a couple of weeks ago I installed a friend's OCR software
for testing and it installed a TSR along with it: even when the OCR
program wasn't running, the freaking thing tried to contact its makers.
Yes, well, have you considered it was trying to look for a new/updated version 
of itself?  :-)  Not all phone home software is malicious.

The firewall also quarantines any suspicious mail attachments, but as
mail client I use good ole' Navigator 4.54 anyway. Some of those
You should switch to Thunderbird.  I finally did last year and it's great.

attachments aim for weaknesses in OE, and my Navigator is simply too old
to understand all that fancy stuff. 
Not true!  In fact, your version has a documented vulnerability!

A program I can wholeheartedly reccommend in this context is Robin
Keir's K9, that uses a Bayes algorithm to weed out spam (and things like
Yes, a Bayesian filter is built into Thunderbird.

Is the rest of the world as ridden by those dialers as we are around
here?
No, that was a very old thing back in 1994-1996 and I don't think Americans 
have seen them since.

Disclaimer:  I *am* a security engineer during the day ;-)
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Re: [SWCollect] Ok....melt wizard...

2004-03-09 Thread Jim Leonard
Nope, that was digitized sound, not synthesized.

Chris Newman wrote:

'82 I think. It was mentioned in the book 'Hackers' by Steven Levy
- Original Message - 
From: Jim Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Okmelt wizard...



Chris Newman wrote:


Um, Creepy Corridors?
What year was it?

First speech *synthesis* game for PC was Metropolis; for other
platforms, I'm not sure.

- Original Message - 
From: Jim Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Okmelt wizard...




Stuart Feldhamer wrote:



Hey, if I was nerdy, I would have played those text adventure games
instead


of the cool sports games. : ) Uh, wait a sec...
I didn't find the question THAT nerdy because you had a movie reference
to check.  If I asked a question like What was the first game to use
speech SYNTHESIS (ie. not pre-recorded sound)?, then THAT would be
nerdy.

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Re: [SWCollect] Wireless Optical Mouse and ebay

2004-03-09 Thread Jim Leonard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Need wireless rechargable optical mouse. Anyone have suggestions (want 
cheap, maybe $25 shipped?). Tried ebay but most sellers have shipping 
The only wireless mouse worth getting is the Logitech MX700.  But you won't 
find it for $25 shipped.
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[SWCollect] Question about trading partner

2004-03-09 Thread Marco Thorek
I'm trying to do a deal with the guy running this website,

http://members.tripod.com/classic-videogames/

Anybody have prior experiences with him? Can he be trusted?

Thanks!

Marco

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Re: [SWCollect] Spyware

2004-03-09 Thread Marco Thorek
Jim Leonard schrieb:
 
 Yes, well, have you considered it was trying to look for a new/updated version
 of itself?  :-)  Not all phone home software is malicious.

Actually, no. I am probably getting a little paranoid.
 
  The firewall also quarantines any suspicious mail attachments, but as
  mail client I use good ole' Navigator 4.54 anyway. Some of those
 
 You should switch to Thunderbird.  I finally did last year and it's great.

Yeah, you are right. Thunderbird looks pretty neat. I don't seem to be
able to find the info on its website, so I am asking you: Can you use it
as a newsgroup reader and can I import my mails from Navigator to it?

  attachments aim for weaknesses in OE, and my Navigator is simply too old
  to understand all that fancy stuff.
 
 Not true!  In fact, your version has a documented vulnerability!

I certainly didn't know that. And, to be honest, I am still sticking to
NN 4.54 less for security reasons but because I'm so used to it ;-)
 
 No, that was a very old thing back in 1994-1996 and I don't think Americans
 have seen them since.

I hope we can soon say the same about Germany. How did the US get rid of
them?
 
 Disclaimer:  I *am* a security engineer during the day ;-)

This list sure has some added benefits ;-)

If I may ask: Who do you work for? 

Marco

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Re: [SWCollect] Wireless Optical Mouse and ebay

2004-03-09 Thread AvatarTom
Thanks for the info, think I will go with the MX700, can get for about $45 shipped.

Tom

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Re: [SWCollect] Wireless Optical Mouse and ebay

2004-03-09 Thread Dan Chisarick
While the MX 700 is a wonderful piece of hardware (its what I'm using 
now) it is REALLY fussy about how far away it is from its base station. 
 They advertised a max of 6'.  More like 2' for truly reliable use.  Of 
course I have a wireless network and possibly other sources of RF 
interference.  I almost returned it until I moved it within 18 of its 
base and it has been dead on ever since.

Also (don't remember where I read it but it *seems* to be accurate), 
the batteries last longer if the laser doesn't have to work too hard.  
I taped a piece of white paper to my mousepad.  I didn't actually 
benchmark it, but it *seems* that the charge lasts longer.  Someone 
club me over the head if this is known BS.

On Mar 9, 2004, at 8:29 PM, Marco Thorek wrote:

Well, the Porsche among the wireless optical is Logitech's MX 700 (MX
900 if you want it as Bluetooth). It uses double the dpi your standard
optical uses and is as accurate as a corded mouse. It also uses
rechargeable batteries, which is a lot cheaper in the long run than
buying batteries again and again - at night or during breaks you put it
on its recharge station.
Only problem: The mouse is beyond your price range. At the moment it
should sell for 79, which should be about the same in $.
Your alternative would the Cordless MouseMan Optical, which I used 
until
I replaced it with the MX 700. It is not as precise as the latter, but
if you aren't into FPS that shouldn't matter much to you. On Ebay you
should be able to get a used one comparatively cheap.

(Or heah, buy mine! :-)

Marco

[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
Need wireless rechargable optical mouse. Anyone have suggestions (want
cheap, maybe $25 shipped?). Tried ebay but most sellers have shipping
cost of $11-20 (yes for one mouse), I refuse to buy from such a
seller. Ebay needs new search function, shipping cost search, taking
way too long to find one with reasonable s+h (probably searched 20
auctions, don't have time for that crap).
Thanks,
Tom
Visit my web page for many games for sale/trade and screen shots of
Ultima Escape from Mt. Drash,  Tom's Ultima, Infocom and RPG page
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Re: [SWCollect] Question about trading partner

2004-03-09 Thread Lee K. Seitz
Marco Thorek stated:

I'm trying to do a deal with the guy running this website,

http://members.tripod.com/classic-videogames/

Anybody have prior experiences with him? Can he be trusted?

I've dealt with him via Usenet and eBay and had no problems with him
either time.  The former was back in '99 and I was the buyer.  The
latter was one year ago when he won an auction of mine.  I believe,
from another e-mail I found, that C.E. may have dealt with him as
well.

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Re: [SWCollect] Ok....melt wizard...

2004-03-09 Thread hughfalk
I actually did that a long time ago :-)

However, there were only two levels of nerdiness.

Level 1 is the self-aware nerd.  This is a person who realizes he/she is a nerd, and 
can control themselves in non-nerd environments.  AKA:  Closet Nerd or socially 
acceptable nerd.

Level 2 is the unaware nerd.  See Revenge of the Nerds for many fictional examples.  
These are scary individuals in social situations, particularly those involving the 
opposite sex.  AKA:  Dork, Dweeb, Geek, Goober.

Unfortunately I never came up with a clever acronym for the scale so I quickly lost 
interest :-)

Hugh

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From: Marco Thorek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mar 9, 2004 5:34 PM
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Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Okmelt wizard...

Jim Leonard schrieb:
 
 I didn't find the question THAT nerdy because you had a movie reference
 to check.  If I asked a question like What was the first game to use
 speech SYNTHESIS (ie. not pre-recorded sound)?, then THAT would be nerdy.

Somehow I don't find that question nerdy at all.

Hm, are you telling me I AM a nerd because I find the other question
nerdy and not this one?

He, let's see when Hugh comes up with a degrees of nerdiness scale ;-)

Marco

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