Re: [SWCollect] Questron 3?

2001-08-16 Thread Dan Chisarick

That's all I needed to know.  Thanks for the info.

- Original Message -
From: "Hugh Falk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 1:44 PM
Subject: RE: [SWCollect] Questron 3?


> Unfortunately I can't be as much help on this as I'd like.  The only
version
> I have of Axis Assassin is the C-64 version, which is, of course, not the
> original version published.  My version does not have pockets or a manual
> (game doesn't need one), but it does have a standard EA reference card (no
> black text) with the instructions on it.  I haven't seen a slash version
of
> this game, but it might exist.
>
>
> Hugh
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dan Chisarick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 11:57 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Questron 3?
>
>
> Um, yeah, gimmie a hit of that doobie when you've got a sec...  I knew
> about Slash, I just never knew they did Apple titles.  I've gotten burned
> many times by Slash.
> What kills me about "Axis Assassin" is its a tri-fold cover (no
blurred
> edges, either), its the right disk, the EA sleeve... its just the cheesy
> reference card.  Its on heavy stock, not paper.  So close.  Uncheck that
> item, keep looking...
>
>
> > "C.E. Forman" wrote:
> > >
> > > > What really angers me is that people will put stuff like this up on
> ebay
> > > > and not properly take a picture or document it and pass it off as
the
> > > > original, "MINT SEALED", etc.  Whenever you see a sealed Mean
> > > > Streets (Access, 1989), 99% of the time it is a Slash release.
> > > > Another way to tell Slashes from normal is that the stickers on
> original
> > > > boxes that have platform, requirements, and disk sizes included are
> > > > usually screened (printed) right onto the box.
> > >
> > > I suspect a lot of them just plain don't know.  They've seen Mean
> Streets
> > > sell for insane prices, but have no idea what Slash is, or that
> different
> > > packages even exist.  It's up to us to educate them.
> >
> > (Camera pans around to view Chris Forman and Jim Leonard, in full
> > Superhero garb)
> >
> > Chris and Jim: "It's up to us!  We are...  ...The Re-Educators!"
> > Chris: "Fighting the crime of confusing Infocom folios with Activision
> > re-releases!"
> > Jim: "Righting the wrong of calling packages 'RARE!!! MINT!!!'"
> > Chris: "Striving for Truth, Justice, and eliminating sloppy ebay
> > listings written in all upper-case letters!"
> > Jim: "Destroying all Slash knock-offs so that only valuable originals
> > remain!"
> > together: "The ree-Educators!!"
> >
> > Sorry, couldn't resist.  :)
> >
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RE: [SWCollect] Questron 3?

2001-08-16 Thread Hugh Falk

Unfortunately I can't be as much help on this as I'd like.  The only version
I have of Axis Assassin is the C-64 version, which is, of course, not the
original version published.  My version does not have pockets or a manual
(game doesn't need one), but it does have a standard EA reference card (no
black text) with the instructions on it.  I haven't seen a slash version of
this game, but it might exist.


Hugh

-Original Message-
From: Dan Chisarick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 11:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Questron 3?


Um, yeah, gimmie a hit of that doobie when you've got a sec...  I knew
about Slash, I just never knew they did Apple titles.  I've gotten burned
many times by Slash.
What kills me about "Axis Assassin" is its a tri-fold cover (no blurred
edges, either), its the right disk, the EA sleeve... its just the cheesy
reference card.  Its on heavy stock, not paper.  So close.  Uncheck that
item, keep looking...


> "C.E. Forman" wrote:
> >
> > > What really angers me is that people will put stuff like this up on
ebay
> > > and not properly take a picture or document it and pass it off as the
> > > original, "MINT SEALED", etc.  Whenever you see a sealed Mean
> > > Streets (Access, 1989), 99% of the time it is a Slash release.
> > > Another way to tell Slashes from normal is that the stickers on
original
> > > boxes that have platform, requirements, and disk sizes included are
> > > usually screened (printed) right onto the box.
> >
> > I suspect a lot of them just plain don't know.  They've seen Mean
Streets
> > sell for insane prices, but have no idea what Slash is, or that
different
> > packages even exist.  It's up to us to educate them.
>
> (Camera pans around to view Chris Forman and Jim Leonard, in full
> Superhero garb)
>
> Chris and Jim: "It's up to us!  We are...  ...The Re-Educators!"
> Chris: "Fighting the crime of confusing Infocom folios with Activision
> re-releases!"
> Jim: "Righting the wrong of calling packages 'RARE!!! MINT!!!'"
> Chris: "Striving for Truth, Justice, and eliminating sloppy ebay
> listings written in all upper-case letters!"
> Jim: "Destroying all Slash knock-offs so that only valuable originals
> remain!"
> together: "The ree-Educators!!"
>
> Sorry, couldn't resist.  :)
>
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Re: [SWCollect] Questron 3?

2001-08-15 Thread Jim Leonard

Dan Chisarick wrote:
> 
> Um, yeah, gimmie a hit of that doobie when you've got a sec...  I knew

It's been a long day.

> What kills me about "Axis Assassin" is its a tri-fold cover (no blurred
> edges, either), its the right disk, the EA sleeve... its just the cheesy
> reference card.  Its on heavy stock, not paper.  So close.  Uncheck that
> item, keep looking...

It's possible that maybe you got some sort of a hybrid?  Like, someone
combined two packages to make a complete whole?

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Re: [SWCollect] Questron 3?

2001-08-15 Thread Dan Chisarick

Um, yeah, gimmie a hit of that doobie when you've got a sec...  I knew
about Slash, I just never knew they did Apple titles.  I've gotten burned
many times by Slash.
What kills me about "Axis Assassin" is its a tri-fold cover (no blurred
edges, either), its the right disk, the EA sleeve... its just the cheesy
reference card.  Its on heavy stock, not paper.  So close.  Uncheck that
item, keep looking...


> "C.E. Forman" wrote:
> >
> > > What really angers me is that people will put stuff like this up on
ebay
> > > and not properly take a picture or document it and pass it off as the
> > > original, "MINT SEALED", etc.  Whenever you see a sealed Mean
> > > Streets (Access, 1989), 99% of the time it is a Slash release.
> > > Another way to tell Slashes from normal is that the stickers on
original
> > > boxes that have platform, requirements, and disk sizes included are
> > > usually screened (printed) right onto the box.
> >
> > I suspect a lot of them just plain don't know.  They've seen Mean
Streets
> > sell for insane prices, but have no idea what Slash is, or that
different
> > packages even exist.  It's up to us to educate them.
>
> (Camera pans around to view Chris Forman and Jim Leonard, in full
> Superhero garb)
>
> Chris and Jim: "It's up to us!  We are...  ...The Re-Educators!"
> Chris: "Fighting the crime of confusing Infocom folios with Activision
> re-releases!"
> Jim: "Righting the wrong of calling packages 'RARE!!! MINT!!!'"
> Chris: "Striving for Truth, Justice, and eliminating sloppy ebay
> listings written in all upper-case letters!"
> Jim: "Destroying all Slash knock-offs so that only valuable originals
> remain!"
> together: "The ree-Educators!!"
>
> Sorry, couldn't resist.  :)
>
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Re: [SWCollect] Questron 3?

2001-08-15 Thread AvatarTom

Yes, Legacy of the Ancients was a fine game, loved the music too (played on 
my C128). Have not played Blacksilver yet as the protection is on disk and I 
was unable to copy it without hardware modification (did not want to ruin my 
original disk). Also of interest, notice in Questron 1 the game structure and 
style are licensed from Richard Garriott (see bottom of back of box) :) 

Tom

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Re: [SWCollect] Questron 3?

2001-08-15 Thread Jim Leonard

"C.E. Forman" wrote:
> 
> > What really angers me is that people will put stuff like this up on ebay
> > and not properly take a picture or document it and pass it off as the
> > original, "MINT SEALED", etc.  Whenever you see a sealed Mean
> > Streets (Access, 1989), 99% of the time it is a Slash release.
> > Another way to tell Slashes from normal is that the stickers on original
> > boxes that have platform, requirements, and disk sizes included are
> > usually screened (printed) right onto the box.
> 
> I suspect a lot of them just plain don't know.  They've seen Mean Streets
> sell for insane prices, but have no idea what Slash is, or that different
> packages even exist.  It's up to us to educate them.

(Camera pans around to view Chris Forman and Jim Leonard, in full
Superhero garb)

Chris and Jim: "It's up to us!  We are...  ...The Re-Educators!"
Chris: "Fighting the crime of confusing Infocom folios with Activision
re-releases!"
Jim: "Righting the wrong of calling packages 'RARE!!! MINT!!!'"
Chris: "Striving for Truth, Justice, and eliminating sloppy ebay
listings written in all upper-case letters!"
Jim: "Destroying all Slash knock-offs so that only valuable originals
remain!"
together: "The ree-Educators!!"

Sorry, couldn't resist.  :)

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Re: [SWCollect] Questron 3?

2001-08-15 Thread C.E. Forman

> What really angers me is that people will put stuff like this up on ebay
> and not properly take a picture or document it and pass it off as the
> original, "MINT SEALED", etc.  Whenever you see a sealed Mean
> Streets (Access, 1989), 99% of the time it is a Slash release.
> Another way to tell Slashes from normal is that the stickers on original
> boxes that have platform, requirements, and disk sizes included are
> usually screened (printed) right onto the box.

I suspect a lot of them just plain don't know.  They've seen Mean Streets
sell for insane prices, but have no idea what Slash is, or that different
packages even exist.  It's up to us to educate them.



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Re: [SWCollect] Questron 3?

2001-08-15 Thread Jim Leonard

Dan Chisarick wrote:
> 
> Speaking of the list, I got another EA flatpack I've been looking for
> today, but its a little different than the rest...  "Axis Assassin".  I've
> had an original disk from god-knows-where for years, but have been looking
> for the package.  Got a shrinkwrapped copy of it.  No manual, and there's no
> pocket for one (Skyfox had no manual either, just a reference card.  Ditto
> for Marble Madness I believe).  The odd thing is the reference card... its
> heavy stock like all the others, but it has a typewriter-like font.  No
> borders on this card, just black type on heavy stock.  Can anyone (Hugh?)
> who has this let me know if I've found what I've been looking for (the
> original release)?

Welcome to the wonderful world of Slash budget re-releases.  Slash
re-released a lot of EA flatboxes early on; the folios (dual-fold or
tri-fold) in Slash releases are reduced to simple folders; the manual is
gone or photocopied; the reference notes are usually recreated with
black text on white paper.  You almost defintely have a Slash re-release
of Axis.  As for the Skyfox and Marble, though, they almost definitely
came with manuals, so either you have Slashes or incomplete originals.

I have Slash "folios" (really simple folders) of Music Construction Set
and Skyfox II (both PC).

> I have gotten the cheap re-releases of several titles, and been irked by
> them.  "Super Boulderdash" has the "one size fits all" reference card in its
> re-release, but still has the bi-fold cover.  Marble Madness only had a
> reference card, and they printed it on paper instead of cardboard in the
> cheap release (grrr).  So, is this a fluke?  Its the only time I've seen an
> EA reference card w/o borders around the edge of the card.  Thanks.

Like I said: Welcome to the wonderful world of Slash re-releases.  :-P

What really angers me is that people will put stuff like this up on ebay
and not properly take a picture or document it and pass it off as the
original, "MINT SEALED", etc.  Whenever you see a sealed Mean
Streets (Access, 1989), 99% of the time it is a Slash release.  
Another way to tell Slashes from normal is that the stickers on original
boxes that have platform, requirements, and disk sizes included are
usually screened (printed) right onto the box.

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Re: [SWCollect] Questron 3?

2001-08-15 Thread Dan Chisarick

Ah, now this is good info.  I beat Legacy of the Ancients for the Apple
II, and loved it.  Questron II on the IIgs, loved that too.  I have
Blacksilver (and never started it) so I guess that means I have to dig up
Questron I (which probably didn't have a IIgs version).  Add one to the
list...  thanks Tom.
Speaking of the list, I got another EA flatpack I've been looking for
today, but its a little different than the rest...  "Axis Assassin".  I've
had an original disk from god-knows-where for years, but have been looking
for the package.  Got a shrinkwrapped copy of it.  No manual, and there's no
pocket for one (Skyfox had no manual either, just a reference card.  Ditto
for Marble Madness I believe).  The odd thing is the reference card... its
heavy stock like all the others, but it has a typewriter-like font.  No
borders on this card, just black type on heavy stock.  Can anyone (Hugh?)
who has this let me know if I've found what I've been looking for (the
original release)?
I have gotten the cheap re-releases of several titles, and been irked by
them.  "Super Boulderdash" has the "one size fits all" reference card in its
re-release, but still has the bi-fold cover.  Marble Madness only had a
reference card, and they printed it on paper instead of cardboard in the
cheap release (grrr).  So, is this a fluke?  Its the only time I've seen an
EA reference card w/o borders around the edge of the card.  Thanks.

Dan


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Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Questron 3?


> In a message dated 08/14/2001 5:42:53 PM Central Daylight Time,
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> << To my recollection, "The Legend of Blacksilver" is the third game in
the
>  Questron universe.  It used the same interface and was published by Epyx
as
>  part of the Masters Collection series, but was only available for C64 and
>  Apple II (there were problems writing the PC conversion and it never got
>  finished). >>
>
> I think Legacy of the Ancients was the third in this set, LoBS the 4th. At
> least all 4 were done by Quest Software.
>
> Tom
>
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Re: [SWCollect] Questron 3?

2001-08-14 Thread AvatarTom

In a message dated 08/14/2001 5:42:53 PM Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< To my recollection, "The Legend of Blacksilver" is the third game in the
 Questron universe.  It used the same interface and was published by Epyx as
 part of the Masters Collection series, but was only available for C64 and
 Apple II (there were problems writing the PC conversion and it never got
 finished). >>

I think Legacy of the Ancients was the third in this set, LoBS the 4th. At 
least all 4 were done by Quest Software.

Tom

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[SWCollect] Questron 3?

2001-08-14 Thread C.E. Forman

Hey gang,

A Shoppe visitor hit me with this one, thought I'd run it by those of you
who know more about RPGs...

>I'm not sure if this ever existed, Questron II ended with a "To be
continued." but I never saw
>Questron III.  Has anyone out there seen it?

To my recollection, "The Legend of Blacksilver" is the third game in the
Questron universe.  It used the same interface and was published by Epyx as
part of the Masters Collection series, but was only available for C64 and
Apple II (there were problems writing the PC conversion and it never got
finished).



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