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 end of the Golden Age of Gaming (by GOTCHA's definition), you 
 have to love that gameCarmack sure knows how to make them ;-))
^^^

DO I NEED TO KILL YOU FOR THAT REMARK??!!! ;P~~

- John
 


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RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

 That reminds me of another good poll for you guys.  I 
 mentioned some of the best games I got for free.  But I'd be 
 curious...what is the most you paid for a single game?  I 
 don't want to know about a group of games...just one game.

Well, I may have been horribly raped back in 1998, but I paid $800 for
my Akalabeth.
!!!

- John
 


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Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread Pedro Quaresma


I havn't got any spectacular tales to write about, but these are my best finds:

Three copies of [MS(T)] Worlds of Ultima 2 Martian Dreams for $8 each.

Ultima 8 by Softworld (the Chinese editor of Origin games) for $5

A huge bundle of Apple 2 games that included Ultima CPC (with manual) and other rare games (incomplete U2, etc) for $100 shipped.

Another huge bundle of Apple 2 games that included another Ultima CPC (disk only) and other rare games (Autoduel complete, some Wizardries, U3, U4) for another $100 shipped.

I was given the box of the autographed 10th Anniversary Worlds of Ultima Savage Empire. No contents, just the box.

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RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread Pedro Quaresma

I don't think you have been raped, I believe there was a floppy only Akalabeth that was sold (more or less recently) on eBay for $1000.

To avoid severe budget strains, I have commited myself not to spend more than $50 USDs per game. Of course I'd break this rule on extreme exceptions (Akalabeth on eBay with a BIN of $51 ? ;) ), but so far it wasn't necessary. I think my record is still $35 on a [MS] Ultima 2nd trilogy Deluxe edition! :)

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That reminds me of another good poll for you guys. I
mentioned some of the best games I got for free. But I'd be
curious...what is the most you paid for a single game? I
don't want to know about a group of games...just one game.

Well, I may have been horribly raped back in 1998, but I paid $800 for
my Akalabeth.
!!!

- John

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RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread Dan Chisarick

Apple EA: I keep the stuff sorted by publisher, so I could
certainly write up a list.  I should clarify that its to the best of my
knowledge (37 titles is what it looks like).  I never had an official
catalog of all published titles, but I'm 99% certain I have the kitchen
sink.  I've trolled archives, newsgroups, old mags, etc. to find names
Most I paid for a game was what we'll call major oops.  New to
ebay, had only actively started collecting for a few months, I put in a
safety bid to keep snipers away and someone apparently did the same.
So for a shrinkwrapped copy of Starflight I coughed up $250 bucks.  I
learned two valuable lessions that day and in the coming months:

1) Only bid what you're actually willing to pay
2) In almost every case, no matter how uncommon, there's a high
probability that once a title appears, additional copies will appear
shortly thereafter.  

Needless to say the title, while highly prized, can be had for
much less.  CF had described many moons ago how new collectors skew
fair value for titles by doing stuff like this.

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From: Hugh Falk [mailto:hughfalk;mindspring.com] 
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Thanks for the minor deity status! I'd actually like to see what the
complete EA Apple II catalog looks like.  Do you have a list you could
send me?  Also, does that include IIgs?

That reminds me of another good poll for you guys.  I mentioned some of
the best games I got for free.  But I'd be curious...what is the most
you paid for a single game?  I don't want to know about a group of
games...just one game.

For me it was Caverns of Callisto (NM), which I paid $111.38 on ebay.
Considering I was looking for at least a couple of years, and this was
the first one I saw, I'm surprised it didn't go for more.  (April of
this year). It's possible I've paid more for a single game in the past,
but I don't think so (I might be repressing a horrible memory).

Hugh


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I spent about 22+ months tracking down every last EA title
(complete) made for the Apple ][ (flat, box, game, utility, app, etc.)
Of those by far the most satisfying to find: Marble Madness, Realm of
Impossibility, One-on-One, Arctic Fox, Adventure Construction Set.  Hugh
is a tiny god for providing the EA Flatpack reference online :)

I have all the Apple ][ Origin titles complete (except Caverns
of Callisto, which I missed for $5 on a newsgroup last year).  These
two sets are by far my most valued, though there are buckets more that I
prize as well (mostly RPG's).

Both sets have at least one error-free set of disks (why collect
if you can't play)?


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RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread Dan Chisarick

Grrr... I stumbled on a complete VG/NM (somewhere in there) copy
of Caverns for the Atari this year, but the Apple version keeps
slipping away from me.  As before, I'm trying to make disk images off
the originals so I can play them in 20 years (or next weekend.
Whatever.)  The disks have lasted this long.  Based on no scientific
data whatsoever, I'd say 30 years (2x the max shelf life) is probably
the most a disk can be expected to last w/o any special care.
Origin apparently had an internal movement at one point to
re-release all the classics (for the PC at least).  I recall a newsgroup
article by an employee at one point (or so they said) that they were
going to remove the protection, redo the manual (probably as a PDF) and
publish all the goods you can't find anymore (a la Lost Treasures of
Infocom), but for free (download).  The first one was supposed to be
Auto Duel, but the idea was shot down (no suit likes to give away
intellectual property for free and all).  And for Auto Duel I'm sure SJG
(Steve Jackson Games) might have something to say about that too.
So, any of you coveted Apple Caverns owners want to let me
borrow it for a week? :) (Raucous laughter subsides).  Didn't think so.

John: swamped w/Wasteland folders yet?


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   I have all the Apple ][ Origin titles complete (except Caverns
of Callisto, 
 which I missed for $5 on a newsgroup last year).  These two sets are
by far my most 
 valued, though there are buckets more that I prize as well (mostly
RPG's).

Whoa, nice collection!  I also love collecting Origin titles; they were
one of my favorite game companies (which is also why I loved working for
them in the 80's!)

I have a mint Caverns of Callisto...heh... ;)

- John
 


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 From: Dan Chisarick [mailto:junk6;bellatlantic.net]
 Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 9:27 PM
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   I spent about 22+ months tracking down every last EA title
 (complete) made for the Apple ][ (flat, box, game, utility,
 app, etc.) Of those by far the most satisfying to find: 
 Marble Madness, Realm of Impossibility, One-on-One, Arctic 
 Fox, Adventure Construction Set.  Hugh is a tiny god for 
 providing the EA Flatpack reference online :)
 
   I have all the Apple ][ Origin titles complete (except
 Caverns of Callisto, which I missed for $5 on a newsgroup 
 last year).  These two sets are by far my most valued, though 
 there are buckets more that I prize as well (mostly RPG's).
 
   Both sets have at least one error-free set of disks
 (why collect if you can't play)?
 
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 Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 10:22 AM
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 On Sunday, November 10, 2002, at 12:45  AM, Hugh Falk wrote: [snip]
  I'm also proud of my complete collection of EA flat box games...not 
  that they're rare or expensive.  I just haven't seen
 another complete
  set...anybody on this list collect EA flats?
 
   The EA game I have are the common Bards Tale and Wasteland ones.
 
 Color me a classic RPGer.  :)
 
   To expand on your point about not particularly rare or expensive
 
 games, I collect the old Avalon Hill computer games.  They had some
 nifty hybrids (computer game with mounted map board and 
 counters) and a 
 messy listing of games.  Trying to figure out what games are 
 out there 
 and then finding them is the fun for me.
 
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RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

:-) JUST A JOKE, OF COURSE! :-)

Hey John, if you wouldn't mind, can you share the highlights of your resume
with the group?  Not so much the games (which a lot of us know), but the
roles you played on the teams.  I didn't know about your time at Origin, for
example.  If this is already well documented somewhere, feel free to send a
link.

Hugh



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 end of the Golden Age of Gaming (by GOTCHA's definition), you
 have to love that gameCarmack sure knows how to make them ;-))
^^^

DO I NEED TO KILL YOU FOR THAT REMARK??!!! ;P~~

- John



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RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

Sounds reasonable to me...it would go for a lot more today.  Is this for one
of the Computerland versions?  If so, it would definitely go for more.  The
big wildcard is that Richard Garriott seems to be making new ones with his
original materials.
I think we already debated the value of those in this group...and it would
probably still go for more.

Hugh

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 That reminds me of another good poll for you guys.  I
 mentioned some of the best games I got for free.  But I'd be
 curious...what is the most you paid for a single game?  I
 don't want to know about a group of games...just one game.

Well, I may have been horribly raped back in 1998, but I paid $800 for
my Akalabeth.
!!!

- John



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Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

Hugh Falk stated:

AH was one
of the most prolific publishers of the early 80's, but I guess their
products overlapped and were just overshadowed by SSI.

I didn't buy many computer games in the early '80s.  Now that I think
about it, I don't think my family had a computer until about 1983.
And for a long time we only had one floppy disk for each of us because
they were so expensive.  Our entire software collection probably
consisted of AppleWriter, MasterType (my parents' idea), and
Choplifter for a year or so.  But I digress

Anyway, I didn't even know Avalon Hill made computer games until I
found a copy of Andromeda Conquest at a closeout store.  I think it
was probably about $10, which was very cheap for software back then.
Somewhere (hopefully at my parent's house) I still have it and the
box.

Lee just pointed out an AH game I have to put on my want list...Incunabula.
Anybody have one for trade or sale?

BTW, Hugh, it occurs to me that it's possible that game only came out
for DOS compuers.  I notice very little of your AH collection is DOS.

Epyx is another company I heavily collect
(http://www.classicgaming.com/gotcha/epyx.htm).  Again, I feel one of the
most successful (yet underappreciated) publishers of the 80s.

I don't know about most successful, but certainly one of the more
successful publishers.  It's a shame they're gone.

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Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

Dan Chisarick stated:

   I spent about 22+ months tracking down every last EA title
(complete) made for the Apple ][ (flat, box, game, utility, app, etc.)
Of those by far the most satisfying to find: Marble Madness, Realm of
Impossibility, One-on-One, Arctic Fox, Adventure Construction Set.  Hugh
is a tiny god for providing the EA Flatpack reference online :)

That reminds me, I've got a copy of Skyfox that has rectangular,
yellow stickers with red text reading DEMO COPY / line / NOT FOR
RESALE on it.  There's one on the front, one that was apparently
holding the folio closed, and another on the disk.  (The reference
card is missing.)  Anyone know the origin of these stickers?  Was it a
pre-release, a copy for review, a copy for a store to load on a
computer for customers to try, or something else?

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Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

Dan Chisarick stated:

   Mega off-topic: There are emulators for PDA's... so where are
the joysticks?  Who wants to abuse the integrated buttons for those
things, anyway? :)  I guess its called the external keyboard.  Sigh.

   Back on topic: Add Rescue Raiders to the list of gems.  I
never thought I'd get that, let alone a Demo copy (used the cheat
keys/level skip keys... all the levels are intact.  Demo copies of some
titles are incomplete, some are full copies w/a DEMO sticker on them.
This seems to be the latter.)

Guess I should read ahead before posting.  Okay, so how can I tell if
my copy of Skyfox (for the Apple II, BTW) is a full copy or not?  I
don't have any other copies to compare it against.  Any cheat keys I
should try?

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Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

Dan Chisarick stated:

   Mega off-topic: There are emulators for PDA's... so where are
the joysticks?  Who wants to abuse the integrated buttons for those
things, anyway? :)  I guess its called the external keyboard.  Sigh.

Drat, forgot my reply to this part in my last post.

There are joysticks for PDAs (e.g.
http://www.tt-tec.com/html/Products/T102.htm), they're just not well
supported by the games due to a lack of standards.

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RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

 That reminds me, I've got a copy of Skyfox that has 
 rectangular, yellow stickers with red text reading DEMO COPY 
 / line / NOT FOR RESALE on it.  There's one on the front, 
 one that was apparently holding the folio closed, and another 
 on the disk.  (The reference card is missing.)  Anyone know 
 the origin of these stickers?  Was it a pre-release, a copy 
 for review, a copy for a store to load on a computer for 
 customers to try, or something else?

Hey, if you want Ray Tobey to sign your Skyfox, I could probably arrange
that, too. ;)

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Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?


On Sunday, November 10, 2002, at 09:36  PM, C.E. Forman wrote:
[Snip]

I've been thinking about this... and wouldn't it be safer to play off 
backup
copies?  I mean, the disk could get munched in the drive, the label 
could
get scratched going in and out... or is that attitude too anal for the 
rest
of this group?  B-)

	If you can make backup copies.  Grrr.  Magazines like The Computist 
can be invaluable if you just want to make your legal backups.

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Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread hughfalk

In high school and college, I worked in video-game retail throughout the
mid-to-late 80s (at an Atari/Commodore/Apple store and later at EB).  We would
get demo copies just like you describe for store display.  However, they
probably could have been used for any of the purposes you mention.

Hugh  

On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:21:06 -0600 (CST) Lee K. Seitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dan Chisarick stated:
 
  I spent about 22+ months tracking down every
 last EA title
 (complete) made for the Apple ][ (flat, box,
 game, utility, app, etc.)
 Of those by far the most satisfying to find:
 Marble Madness, Realm of
 Impossibility, One-on-One, Arctic Fox,
 Adventure Construction Set.  Hugh
 is a tiny god for providing the EA Flatpack
 reference online :)
 
 That reminds me, I've got a copy of Skyfox that
 has rectangular,
 yellow stickers with red text reading DEMO
 COPY / line / NOT FOR
 RESALE on it.  There's one on the front, one
 that was apparently
 holding the folio closed, and another on the
 disk.  (The reference
 card is missing.)  Anyone know the origin of
 these stickers?  Was it a
 pre-release, a copy for review, a copy for a
 store to load on a
 computer for customers to try, or something
 else?
 
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On Sunday, November 10, 2002, at 10:32  PM, Dan Chisarick wrote:
[Snip]

	Mega off-topic: There are emulators for PDA's... so where are
the joysticks?  Who wants to abuse the integrated buttons for those
things, anyway? :)  I guess its called the external keyboard.  Sigh.


	Sony has a game pad you can connect to their Clie PDAs if you want a 
PalmOS device.  http://www.palminfocentre.com/view_story.asp?ID=4295

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2002-11-11 Thread hughfalk

The ones we got were consistantly full copies...never modified, except for the
sticker to prevent the reseller from making money on it.

Hugh

On Mon, 11 Nov 2002 11:25:18 -0600 (CST) Lee K. Seitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Dan Chisarick stated:
 
  Mega off-topic: There are emulators for
 PDA's... so where are
 the joysticks?  Who wants to abuse the
 integrated buttons for those
 things, anyway? :)  I guess its called the
 external keyboard.  Sigh.
 
  Back on topic: Add Rescue Raiders to the
 list of gems.  I
 never thought I'd get that, let alone a Demo
 copy (used the cheat
 keys/level skip keys... all the levels are
 intact.  Demo copies of some
 titles are incomplete, some are full copies
 w/a DEMO sticker on them.
 This seems to be the latter.)
 
 Guess I should read ahead before posting. 
 Okay, so how can I tell if
 my copy of Skyfox (for the Apple II, BTW) is a
 full copy or not?  I
 don't have any other copies to compare it
 against.  Any cheat keys I
 should try?
 
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Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?


On Sunday, November 10, 2002, at 11:38  PM, Hugh Falk wrote:
[Snip]

That reminds me of another good poll for you guys.  I mentioned some 
of the
best games I got for free.  But I'd be curious...what is the most you 
paid
for a single game?  I don't want to know about a group of games...just 
one
game.

	The most I've actually paid for a game -- I've bid higher, but not won 
the auction -- was ~$675 for an orange castle coversheet Akalabeth.  
(:chuckle:  I needed the coversheet as those are what I'm missing from 
my other Akalabeth and my Ultima.)  For me, the interesting thing is 
that the seller was one of the programmers for Arena and Daggerfall.  
It is cool to see that the people who develop the games are as serious 
collectors as us.

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Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?


On Monday, November 11, 2002, at 12:04  AM, John Romero wrote:


	Hmm.  Now I have an urge to go find Dungeon Campaign and

Wilderness

Campaign...


Yes!  I have mint copies of these two as well.  Man, I am pretty loaded
with Synergistic Software. :)


	Why do I have the feeling that the list of games you want, but don't 
have is pretty small?  ;-)  Is there anything in particular that you're 
still looking for?

	On a more general note, I'd love to see everyone's collections some 
time.  I feel like a dilettante compared to the rest of you.  grin

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Re: [SWCollect] [SWCollect] What's your favorite find?


On Monday, November 11, 2002, at 06:36  AM, Alexander Zoller wrote:
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Favorite finds: items previously believed to NOT exist. Ultima III by 
US
Gold, for example, or the slipcased Ultima Trilogy.

	Was this a US version?

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Re: [SWCollect] [SWCollect] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread Alexander Zoller

   Was this a US version?

No, it was a European release by Microprose. They used to distribute
Origin's games in sturdy, small-sized, two-piece cardboard boxes (same
measurements as the Rainbird blue boxes -- a bunch of Level 9 and Magnetic
Scrolls titles came in these). For some inscrutable reason, they took the
same box type for the Trilogy again but used an additional slipcase,
leaving the box halfs plain and white. It has been speculated this happened
right before their joint venture with Origin ended (the license was
turned over to Mindscape), and they may have been pressed for time. This
seems to be confirmed by the fact that instead of printing a custom-sized
manual for this release, they simply 'trimmed' the Trilogy's manual by
about an inch so it would fit in the box.

I can email you some pics. Also of the US Gold U3 if interested.

/Alexander


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On Monday, November 11, 2002, at 06:36  AM, Alexander Zoller wrote:
[Snip]
 Favorite finds: items previously believed to NOT exist. Ultima III by
 US
 Gold, for example, or the slipcased Ultima Trilogy.

Was this a US version?

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Re: [SWCollect] [SWCollect] What's your favorite find?


On Monday, November 11, 2002, at 02:27  PM, Alexander Zoller wrote:
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o, it was a European release by Microprose. They used to distribute
Origin's games in sturdy, small-sized, two-piece cardboard boxes (same
measurements as the Rainbird blue boxes -- a bunch of Level 9 and 
Magnetic
Scrolls titles came in these). For some inscrutable reason, they took 
the
same box type for the Trilogy again but used an additional slipcase,
leaving the box halfs plain and white. It has been speculated this 
happened
right before their joint venture with Origin ended (the license was
turned over to Mindscape), and they may have been pressed for time. 
This
seems to be confirmed by the fact that instead of printing a 
custom-sized
manual for this release, they simply 'trimmed' the Trilogy's manual by
about an inch so it would fit in the box.

	Ah, that sounds like my CPC Progame version of Ultima.  My Japanese 
version only differs from the regular version by the addition of a 
cheap photocopy of the manual that was partially written in Japanese 
Kanji (?).

I can email you some pics. Also of the US Gold U3 if interested.


	I'd like to see those.  I always thought that the US Gold box for U4 
was one of the best.

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RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

It sounds like we could get a lot of autographs between the two of us.  I
could just about throw an EA Flat at Mike Abbott's office (Hard Hat Mack)
from where I sit.  If anybody wants an autograph, let me know, I don't think
he'd mind.

John,  I'd actually like a Ray Tobey autographed Skyfox if its not too much
of a hassle.  (I'd have to dig a copy out, but I think I know where that one
is).  Wastland would be great as well.  Let me know if it's not too much
trouble.


Hugh

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 That reminds me, I've got a copy of Skyfox that has
 rectangular, yellow stickers with red text reading DEMO COPY
 / line / NOT FOR RESALE on it.  There's one on the front,
 one that was apparently holding the folio closed, and another
 on the disk.  (The reference card is missing.)  Anyone know
 the origin of these stickers?  Was it a pre-release, a copy
 for review, a copy for a store to load on a computer for
 customers to try, or something else?

Hey, if you want Ray Tobey to sign your Skyfox, I could probably arrange
that, too. ;)

- John



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RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

I've met a lot of collectors in the game development ranks.  Which makes
sense since a lot of developers get into games because they're passionate
about them.  Though I've found very few as serious about it as us.  Also, I
generally run into console (2600, Colecovision) collectors.  Steve Meretzky
was the only serious PC game collector I met.  I know one with an incredible
pinball game collection as well.

Hugh

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On Sunday, November 10, 2002, at 11:38  PM, Hugh Falk wrote:
[Snip]
 That reminds me of another good poll for you guys.  I mentioned some
 of the
 best games I got for free.  But I'd be curious...what is the most you
 paid
 for a single game?  I don't want to know about a group of games...just
 one
 game.

The most I've actually paid for a game -- I've bid higher, but not won
the auction -- was ~$675 for an orange castle coversheet Akalabeth.
(:chuckle:  I needed the coversheet as those are what I'm missing from
my other Akalabeth and my Ultima.)  For me, the interesting thing is
that the seller was one of the programmers for Arena and Daggerfall.
It is cool to see that the people who develop the games are as serious
collectors as us.

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Re: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread C.E. Forman

 Yes!  I have mint copies of these two as well.  Man, I am pretty loaded
 with Synergistic Software. :)

Got Warlock's Revenge?



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RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?

2002-11-11 Thread Dan Chisarick

BTW I have all 89 issues of Computist + the four errata issues.
The Super IOB images are on Asimov.  Mail me if you're interested in any
sort of info, etc.  I'm not great, but I've normalized a good stack that
weren't in any of those issues.

John, if you don't mind yet another question your way... classic
game copy protection is one of those perverse fascinations of mine.
Some of them (Nassir's 4+4 encoded, spiral quarter-tracked,
self-modifying loader-that-sits-on-video-memory with a nibble-count
mess) were just unreal.  Mercifully, most schemes were home-grown
almost-DOS 3.3 variants.  When writing games that integrated with copy
protection, what considerations did you have to make?  Was development
done w/the protection in mind, or was it normal file-based code until it
was ready for commercial release?  


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On Sunday, November 10, 2002, at 09:36  PM, C.E. Forman wrote: [Snip]
 I've been thinking about this... and wouldn't it be safer to play off
 backup
 copies?  I mean, the disk could get munched in the drive, the label 
 could
 get scratched going in and out... or is that attitude too anal for the

 rest
 of this group?  B-)

If you can make backup copies.  Grrr.  Magazines like The
Computist 
can be invaluable if you just want to make your legal backups.

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RE: [SWCollect] [ SWCollect ] What's your favorite find?