[swinog] SwiNOG-BE46 - Beer Event 46 - 19th of February 07 @ Don Weber/Zurich

2007-02-14 Diskussionsfäden Steven.Glogger
hi all sorry, i'm quite late and reservation deadline is friday ,-( but next monday is the next planned beer event (just aside TIX) ,-) the facts for the next event: - Date: 19th of February 2007 Time: starting around 18.30 o'clock Location: @ the Don Weber

Re: [swinog] SwiNOG-BE46 - Beer Event 46 - 19th of February 07 @ Don Weber/Zurich

2007-02-14 Diskussionsfäden Pim van Pelt
Hoi! | sorry, i'm quite late and reservation deadline is friday ,-( | but next monday is the next planned beer event (just aside TIX) ,-) I'm in transit from NL to CH on that date - as a new comer (I came through AS8954, then AS12859, and started at AS15169 last August) I've sort of gotten out

[swinog] to SPF or not to SPF

2007-02-14 Diskussionsfäden Daniel . Blaser
Hi Maillist, SPF is starting to become a topic at our company again - ^^ - and I'm now interested: - who does not use SPF - who implemented SPF DNS entries - who uses SPF for matching - who fully uses SPF ^^ lolz I'm just trying to get a general feeling again about what the community thinks

Re: [swinog] to SPF or not to SPF

2007-02-14 Diskussionsfäden Claudio Jeker
On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 03:35:03PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Maillist, SPF is starting to become a topic at our company again - ^^ - and I'm now interested: - who does not use SPF - who implemented SPF DNS entries - who uses SPF for matching - who fully uses SPF ^^ lolz I'm

RE: [swinog] to SPF or not to SPF

2007-02-14 Diskussionsfäden Steven.Glogger
we're not using spf at all. i think there's every year a new discussion about it. check out the archive ;-) -steven From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 3:35 PM To: swinog@swinog.ch

Re: [swinog] to SPF or not to SPF

2007-02-14 Diskussionsfäden Roger Buchwalder
Hello Bernard That would be a nice solution, but explain that to a user... cheers rog Bernard Dugas schrieb: Bonjour, Norbert Bollow wrote: Use DomainKeys instead of SPF. DomainKeys serves the same purpose, but doesn't share the fundamental brokenness of SPF. And why not using the

Re: [swinog] to SPF or not to SPF

2007-02-14 Diskussionsfäden Adrian Ulrich
And why not using the existing authentication protocol on outgoing smtp server ? So the sender can use the smtp server of the provider of its email address from any network and SPF can work without any problem. How would this solve the forwarding problem? And how are you going to teach

Re: [swinog] to SPF or not to SPF

2007-02-14 Diskussionsfäden Viktor Steinmann
Nowadays, every sicko can buy a .com domain for 9$ or even less. Spammers buy domains, put correct SPF records in their zonefiles and throw the domain away afterwards... (just like you did with hotmail accounts a few years back :-)) So IMHO DNS based spam fighting doesn't work. At least not

Re: [swinog] to SPF or not to SPF

2007-02-14 Diskussionsfäden Bernard Dugas
Roger Buchwalder wrote: That would be a nice solution, but explain that to a user... We did it, and that was fine as they are only 2 boxes to click on outlook/outlookexpress, and still easy enough on mozilla/thunderbird with more mature users :-) All are very happy as they don't have to

Re: [swinog] to SPF or not to SPF

2007-02-14 Diskussionsfäden Bernard Dugas
Viktor Steinmann wrote: Nowadays, every sicko can buy a .com domain for 9$ or even less. Spammers buy domains, put correct SPF records in their zonefiles and throw the domain away afterwards... (just like you did with hotmail accounts a few years back :-)) Sure, but at least, I know that no

Re: [swinog] to SPF or not to SPF

2007-02-14 Diskussionsfäden Michael Naef
On Wednesday 14. February 2007 22:15, Bernard Dugas wrote: Adrian Ulrich wrote: And why not using the existing authentication protocol on outgoing smtp server ? So the sender can use the smtp server of the provider of its email address from any network and SPF can work without any problem.