[swinog] Post from Canton de Vaud

2009-02-17 Diskussionsfäden Xaver Aerni
Hello, Till now we haven't receive any letter. Our Partnernetwork hasn't to receive any letter. It is nice. I think they must wirte to all providers... We have more than 3000 clients together... Greetings X. Aerni _ Von: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch

Re: [swinog] Post from Canton de Vaud

2009-02-17 Diskussionsfäden Yann Gauteron
I fully agree with this statement, reason why I was pointing out that a lawyer opinion would be welcome. I'm pretty sure that every people reading this topic on SwiNOG is not sure that such a request is fully supported by a law. Now, I am not sure that some customers will recourse because one

Re: [swinog] Post from Canton de Vaud

2009-02-17 Diskussionsfäden roger
a lot of them are getting the feed from cablecom allready filtered i think. Roger I have the problem with this (sorry i must say) of the swiss romande... The most blocking of pages are the same law on the blocking page. I don't sure if a voud law could send this letter to an ISP in

Re: [swinog] Post from Canton de Vaud

2009-02-17 Diskussionsfäden Xaver Aerni
No, the most have local peerings.And feed from Swisscom or div. Providers. Some of the little Providers has a CC Feed. I know 4 Cableprovider they make the Internet self. Greetings Xaver - Original Message - From: ro...@mgz.ch To: Xaver Aerni xae...@pop.ch; swi...@swinog.ch Sent:

Re: [swinog] Post from Canton de Vaud

2009-02-17 Diskussionsfäden Yann Gauteron
You're assuming that the biggest ISPs will apply the filtering at the entrance of their network, which is not necesseraly true. They can also decide to filter closer to their access equipments. This would mean that peerings with other ISPs or BGP-tiered enterprises would be unfiltered. Depending

Re: [swinog] Post from Canton de Vaud

2009-02-17 Diskussionsfäden Xaver Aerni
When the ISP block it only by DNS Filtering??? I think to block 1 side is a DNS Filtering the easyest and fastest way. Greetings Xaver - Original Message - From: Yann Gauteron To: swi...@swinog.ch Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [swinog] Post from Canton

Re: [swinog] Post from Canton de Vaud

2009-02-17 Diskussionsfäden Yann Gauteron
DNS filtering is also the solution that is the easiest to go around... :-) Either chose a foreign DNS, or chose to fully resolve the names by yourself... But I'm sure this is the easiest and cheapest way to proceed. 2009/2/17 Xaver Aerni xae...@pop.ch When the ISP block it only by DNS

Re: [swinog] Post from Canton de Vaud

2009-02-17 Diskussionsfäden Oliver Bolliger
this is not the right way to block access to a site as i can setup my own dns or use foreign nameservers but what is the best method? blocking ip traffic to the site can also mean to block legitimate traffic to a shared hosting server!? cheers oliver On Feb 17, 2009, at 4:57 PM, Xaver Aerni

Re: [swinog] Post from Canton de Vaud

2009-02-17 Diskussionsfäden Jeroen Massar
Xaver Aerni wrote: IP Block is the Problem, you are Blocking more sites as the to block... I think a Server has 100 Sites if you block the IP all 100 Sites are blocked. You have a big Problem you must block a Site Xy and the UBS.Com or an other bigger Firm is on the same server. In other

Re: [swinog] Post from Canton de Vaud

2009-02-17 Diskussionsfäden Matthias Leisi
Oliver Bollisger schrieb: but what is the best method? blocking ip traffic to the site can also mean to block legitimate traffic to a shared hosting server!? Filter the traffic for specific IPs/networks/etc (eg by playing some BGP games) through transparent proxies and redirect forbidden

Re: [swinog] Post from Canton de Vaud

2009-02-17 Diskussionsfäden Steven Glogger
silvan they've presented the product on swinog last time: http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog17/20081022_SWINOG.pdf -steven _ From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Silvan Michael Gebhardt Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 11:56 PM