Re: [swinog] Cablecom Home to London via USA

2013-02-05 Diskussionsfäden Jeroen Massar
On 2013-02-05 20:39 , Fabian Wenk wrote: > Hello Jeroen > > On 05.02.2013 19:56, Jeroen Massar wrote: >> You are missing the important point about peering: >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUYdi43qXHc > > And this shows just an other problem of this world, which also matches > the title of the

Re: [swinog] Cablecom Home to London via USA

2013-02-05 Diskussionsfäden Bernd SPIESS
hi stephan you have always a possibility to fix this - you can buy transit in form of a paid peering with those networks who are customer-critical and be badly peered on your existing upstreams. (be careful: no full transit - just peering only - with full transit you import a lot of this proble

Re: [swinog] Cablecom Home to London via USA

2013-02-05 Diskussionsfäden Stephan Wolf
Hi Bernd, uh, I started a big discussion here ;) 2013/2/5 Bernd SPIESS : > hi stephan > this is the reason why it is important to really really pick carefully your > ip-access or ip-transit provider. ip is not a matter of price/mbit as you can > see here from that point you are completely righ

Re: [swinog] Cablecom Home to London via USA

2013-02-05 Diskussionsfäden Gregory Agerba
Just some thoughts... > study peering connect, peering policy and peering reality, > for the ip carrier of your choice, > carefully in all markets, which are important for you. Yes, but this changes daily. If you are single-homed, brace and hope everything keeps "as is" when things work. Good exa

Re: [swinog] Cablecom Home to London via USA

2013-02-05 Diskussionsfäden Fabian Wenk
Hello Jeroen On 05.02.2013 19:56, Jeroen Massar wrote: You are missing the important point about peering: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUYdi43qXHc And this shows just an other problem of this world, which also matches the title of the Video "Meja - A'll Bout The Money": "This video cont

Re: [swinog] Cablecom Home to London via USA

2013-02-05 Diskussionsfäden Jeroen Massar
On 2013-02-05 19:31 , Andreas Fink wrote: > side note: I was testing LTE in Basel. Speed is lower than 3G (like > 3-5M/sec) I wondered why as my friends in Finland get like 40M/s LTE is not deployed yet for real in Switzerland... Note also that for instance > What spring to my mind however is th

Re: [swinog] Cablecom Home to London via USA

2013-02-05 Diskussionsfäden Andreas Fink
side note: I was testing LTE in Basel. Speed is lower than 3G (like 3-5M/sec) I wondered why as my friends in Finland get like 40M/s What spring to my mind however is that the speed test tools do in fact measure speed with local providers around the corner. And as far as I know, swisscom doesn't

Re: [swinog] Cablecom Home to London via USA

2013-02-05 Diskussionsfäden Bernd SPIESS
> 358 ms58 ms43 ms > 217-168-58-101.static.cablecom.ch[217.168.58.101] > 4 139 ms 140 ms 145 ms 84.116.211.22 > I'd say here's where the problem begins and it still UPC network I think. sorry - no - as the handover takes part in washington you have twice the atlantic in bet

Re: [swinog] Cablecom Home to London via USA

2013-02-05 Diskussionsfäden Marcin Cieslak
On Tue, 5 Feb 2013, Stephan Wolf wrote: > hello, > > since longer I have seen, that UPC is routing Cablecom Home connetions via > US to London: > > > Tracing route to 82.129.64.250 over a maximum of 30 hops > > 358 ms58 ms43 ms > 217-168-58-101.static.cablecom.ch[217.168.58.101]

Re: [swinog] Cablecom Home to London via USA

2013-02-05 Diskussionsfäden Bernd SPIESS
hi stephan this is the reason why it is important to really really pick carefully your ip-access or ip-transit provider. ip is not a matter of price/mbit as you can see here - study peering connect, peering policy and peering reality, for the ip carrier of your choice, carefully in all markets,

Re: [swinog] Cablecom Home to London via USA

2013-02-05 Diskussionsfäden Bernd SPIESS
hi stephan this is the reason why it is important to really really pick carefully your ip-access or ip-transit provider. ip is not a matter of price/mbit as you can see here - study peering connect, peering policy and peering reality, for the ip carrier of your choice, carefully in all markets,

Re: [swinog] Cablecom Home to London via USA

2013-02-05 Diskussionsfäden Gregory Agerba
Do you mean UPC is routing Cogent through USA? Basically, UPC doesn't peer with Cogent and have it delivered by their upstreams. This is called hair pinning and it is probably one of the very few major network that has such issue with UPC. Gregory On 5 February 2013 17:11, Stephan Wolf wrote:

[swinog] Cablecom Home to London via USA

2013-02-05 Diskussionsfäden Stephan Wolf
hello, since longer I have seen, that UPC is routing Cablecom Home connetions via US to London: Tracing route to 82.129.64.250 over a maximum of 30 hops 246 ms68 ms52 ms 77-56-176-1.dclient.hispeed.ch [77.56.176.1] 358 ms58 ms43 ms 217-168-58-101.static.cablecom.ch[