Re: [swinog] Hot Red Flames (Was: IRC Server dead ?)

2008-10-08 Diskussionsfäden roger
maybe your not aware but skype is a p2p tool, servers just exists for the directory, or the gates .. so wiretapping is just possible on the gate while calling a PSTN partitiant. but as we allready heard most using skype, the possibility of badmans communication will stay P2P to confuse the

Re: [swinog] Hot Red Flames (Was: IRC Server dead ?)

2008-10-07 Diskussionsfäden Tonnerre Lombard
Salut, Per, On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 07:38:56 +0200, Per Jessen wrote: The idea of open source is not so much that you get to check it yourself, but much more that it is open for hundreds of thousands of other people to check. If for instance the quality/security of a piece of code is

Re: [swinog] Hot Red Flames (Was: IRC Server dead ?)

2008-10-07 Diskussionsfäden Attila Kinali
On Tue, 7 Oct 2008 13:11:45 +0200 Tonnerre Lombard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 07:38:56 +0200, Per Jessen wrote: The idea of open source is not so much that you get to check it yourself, but much more that it is open for hundreds of thousands of other people to check. If

Re: [swinog] Hot Red Flames (Was: IRC Server dead ?)

2008-10-07 Diskussionsfäden Tonnerre Lombard
Salut, Marco, On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 08:47:41 +0200, Marco Fretz wrote: I usually don't have a look at the code at all. But point is, it's code, tested and build by a community not a closed company with their own, secret business goals...! I don't want be a victim of global marketing data

Re: [swinog] Hot Red Flames (Was: IRC Server dead ?)

2008-10-07 Diskussionsfäden Ihsan Dogan
Am 7.10.2008 8:47 Uhr, Marco Fretz schrieb: That's not the point. Of course we don't check the whole source code. I usually don't have a look at the code at all. But point is, it's code, tested and build by a community not a closed company with their own, secret business goals...! I don't

Re: [swinog] Hot Red Flames (Was: IRC Server dead ?)

2008-10-07 Diskussionsfäden Tonnerre Lombard
Hey, Ihsan, On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 22:53:28 +0200, Ihsan Dogan wrote: One of the big reasons why people are buying commercial software products is, that they can get support and SLA. Most of the open source projects cannot provide that. Not by themselves, but you can get that support through

Re: [swinog] Hot Red Flames (Was: IRC Server dead ?)

2008-10-07 Diskussionsfäden Peter Keel
* on the Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 06:50:54PM +0200, Jeroen Massar wrote: I've done too much cmputer security, and now I've got a déformation professionelle. I won't use closed software for anything crucial like communication; You don't use Cisco's or Junipers? How do you use the Internet

[swinog] Hot Red Flames (Was: IRC Server dead ?)

2008-10-06 Diskussionsfäden Jeroen Massar
Peter Keel wrote: * on the Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 07:02:18AM -0700, Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: why doesn't someone create a public Skype chat for SwiNOG? I think more people on this list have skype than IRC client software (me, for example :-) I don't. And I WON'T. I've done too much

Re: [swinog] Hot Red Flames (Was: IRC Server dead ?)

2008-10-06 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Jeroen Massar wrote: And of course, with Open Source: did you check every single line of the source, and that of the compiler, and all the tools that that was made with etc etc etc? Ah, indeed you didn't, thus please don't claim that Open Source is more secure because you have the source,