Re: [swinog] Init7 peering

2009-11-22 Diskussionsfäden Alexandre Egger
Hey Arnold, Maybe reading, understanding and acting along http://www.denog.de/pdf/004-Tremmel-Attractive_for_Peering.pdf does help ;-) Some advices are good, other are senseless to me. By the way, that comes straight from DECIX people. Remind me that is DECIX? ;) That would be silly if they

Re: [swinog] Init7 peering

2009-11-22 Diskussionsfäden Per Jessen
Alexandre Egger wrote: By the way, that comes straight from DECIX people. Remind me that is DECIX? ;) That would be silly if they wouldn't try to sell their services undirectly in some ways... To me it sounds a but like would if it would be some brand of class clothes saying dress well to

Re: [swinog] Init7 peering

2009-11-22 Diskussionsfäden Alexandre Egger
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:42:32 +0100, Per Jessen per.jes...@enidan.ch wrote: dress well to sign better contracts - it's not bad advice. /Per Per, I agree. But I was using this as metaphor that obviously a very expensive brand will tell you to buy their clothes to do it better just as a brand

Re: [swinog] Init7 peering

2009-11-22 Diskussionsfäden Arnold Nipper
On 22.11.2009 19:51 Alexandre Egger wrote On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:42:32 +0100, Per Jessen per.jes...@enidan.ch wrote: dress well to sign better contracts - it's not bad advice. /Per Per, I agree. But I was using this as metaphor that obviously a very expensive brand will tell you to

Re: [swinog] Init7 peering

2009-11-22 Diskussionsfäden Alexandre Egger
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:00:30 +0100, Arnold Nipper arn...@nipper.de wrote: I did reply to this just for fun and nothing else. Iirc Wolfgang's presentation does not say that you you have to buy DE-CIX services, neither does it say that you have to peer with everyone. Doesn't it? I am not

Re: [swinog] Init7 peering

2009-11-21 Diskussionsfäden Arnold Nipper
On 19.11.2009 10:50 Fredy Kuenzler wrote Alexandre Egger schrieb: Could anyone responsible for the peering at Init7 (AS13030) contact me in directly off-list. We keep trying to reach your NOC by email with no results :( you are on the pending request list ... Maybe reading,

Re: [swinog] Init7 peering

2009-11-19 Diskussionsfäden Fredy Kuenzler
Hi Alexandre, Alexandre Egger schrieb: Could anyone responsible for the peering at Init7 (AS13030) contact me in directly off-list. We keep trying to reach your NOC by email with no results :( you are on the pending request list ... On Mon, 26 Oct 2009 14:57:26 +0100, Alexandre Egger

Re: [swinog] Init7 peering

2009-11-19 Diskussionsfäden Alexandre Egger
Hello Fredy, Thanks for reply. you are on the pending request list ... We never had even an acknowledgement message. One can wonder if the request is gone in the bit bucket :-) and yes the list is long, I'm afraid. So please be patient (it sometimes takes years to get a peer)... I can

Re: [swinog] Init7 peering

2009-11-19 Diskussionsfäden Alexandre Egger
On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:09:03 +0100, Bernd SPIESS bernd.spi...@ascus.at wrote: i can assure you, you are wrong :-) at vienna vix it takes about one year to have an answer from everbody. it took about 2 years at milano and about 15 rounds of asking to have a yes+session or no from everyone

Re: [swinog] Init7 peering

2009-11-19 Diskussionsfäden Fredy Kuenzler
Alexandre Egger schrieb: This being said, here is a tip how to get faster peering: http://www.blogg.ch/index.php?/archives/816-Der-charmanteste-Peering-Request.html (not to mention, it's Fredy's log :) Would a pie help Fredy? :) yes but only if it doesn't contain any raisins :-P F.

[swinog] Init7 peering

2009-11-18 Diskussionsfäden Alexandre Egger
Hi, Could anyone responsible for the peering at Init7 (AS13030) contact me in directly off-list. We keep trying to reach your NOC by email with no results :( Best regards, Alexandre -- Alexandre Egger Neocarrier Communications LTD 311, SHOREHAM STREET S2 4FA SHEFFIELD United Kingdom E :