Re: [swinog] Out-of-Office Policies?
Hi Matthias et al Out-of-Office notifications are not just nonsense as you state in your mail. In a very service-oriented business, where the person-to-person relationship is important, it makes sense for the customer to know, that his personal contact is not available. Please Remember: Technology should be here to help people solve their problems, not the other way around. So instead of focusing on how to stop OoO, why not try to find a technically clean way for OoO. People need it, so let's give it to them, but in a proper way. Now for the technical part: - We all agree OoO should not be sent to Mailinglists. This can usually be achieved by checking for precedence bulk and not replying to those. - OoO should not reply to Spam. Difficult to do, because it's hard to separate spam from ham automated, as we all know. - OoO should only be sent once per mail address (default with FreeBSD vacation, also possible with sieve scripts) - OoO should be clearly recognizable as such by automated mail handlers. Maybe a standard already exists? Probably not. This could be a way to a solution (maybe a new X- Header Field, so recipients can filter out OoO it not needed) - OoO should be clearly recognizable by humans And finally to your questions: 1. Yes 2. No reply to Spam, Only 1 reply per Mail-Address 3. No 4. No special handling Cheers, Viktor Matthias Leisi wrote: Hi there, I'm trying to gather arguments to stop the Out-of-Office notification nonsense. I know the technical arguments against OoO and other forms of auto-responders, but I'm interested to learn how different organisations are handling it. If you don't want to answer publicly, please respond to me directly ([EMAIL PROTECTED] - remember that the Swinog list overrides my Reply-To: header). I will respect any requests for anonymous handling, but I will send a summary to the list. You may also answer in verbose form instead of using the questionnaire below :) My questions: 0. What kind of organisation are you answering for (eg for your ISP staff, for your ISP customers, for your company users etc.)? About how many users do you handle? 1. Does your organisation allow OoO to external recipients? If you answer no to question 1, no further questions required :) If you answer yes, please continue below: 2. Do you have any restrictions as to when/how OoO notifications are sent? [ ] No restriction _or_ [ ] No OoO to detected spam [ ] OoO only to senders in the user's address book [ ] Only to senders with matching SPF/DKIM/Sender-Id etc [ ] Other restriction: 3. Have you had any DNSBL listings due to OoO notifications? If yes, which DNSBLs? 4. How do you send out OoO notifications? [ ] No special handling [ ] Over a dedicated IP address Thanks a lot for your contribution, -- Matthias ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Out-of-Office Policies?
EHLO On Wed, 2006-07-26 at 08:21 +0200, Viktor Steinmann wrote: - We all agree OoO should not be sent to Mailinglists. This can usually be achieved by checking for precedence bulk and not replying to those. The easiest way to achieve that, is to use a separate mail box to handle mailing list mails. Of course, this mail box does not have a OoO turned on ;) On Tue, 2006-07-25 at 20:13 +0200, Matthias Leisi wrote: 1. Does your organisation allow OoO to external recipients? Since our external customer contact is handled by a ticketing system, our personal email addresses are mainly for internal use. We do not have any regulations set up for OoO and there is no need for OoO here anyway. Greez - Dan ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] Nokia BB-512
Hi I'm looking for an old Nokia BB512 xDSL-Modem (w or w/o Interface). If someone has one laying around, please contact me offlist. Thx, Patrick ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] I think we must change to france
"Presence-pc at reports that France Telecom just announced they are offering 2.5 Gb/s internet connection to select cities in the Paris region. For... $85(70 Euros) a month you also get free phone and TV. From the article (in French): "The historical operator opted for a GPON (Gigabit Passive Optical Network) FTTH architecture (Fiber To The Home). This technology allows up to 2.5 Gbits/s download and 1.2 Gigabits/s upload."" ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] I think we must change to france
At least that would finally enable Bluewin-TV ;-))) SCNR Viktor Xaver Aerni wrote: /Presence-pc at reports that France Telecom just announced they are //offering 2.5 Gb/s internet connection/ http://www.presence-pc.com/actualite/ftth-experience-18331// to select cities in the Paris region. For... $85(70 Euros) a month you also get free phone and TV. From the article (in French): The historical operator opted for a GPON (Gigabit Passive Optical Network) FTTH architecture (Fiber To The Home). This technology allows up to 2.5 Gbits/s download and 1.2 Gigabits/s upload./ ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] I think we must change to france
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Hello, For info there is small FTTH networks in CH ;) Not so fast but anyway it's a beginning. Regards, Nico At least that would finally enable Bluewin-TV ;-))) SCNR Viktor Xaver Aerni wrote: /Presence-pc at reports that France Telecom just announced they are //offering 2.5 Gb/s internet connection/ http://www.presence-pc.com/actualite/ftth-experience-18331// to select cities in the Paris region. For... $85(70 Euros) a month you also get free phone and TV. From the article (in French): The historical operator opted for a GPON (Gigabit Passive Optical Network) FTTH architecture (Fiber To The Home). This technology allows up to 2.5 Gbits/s download and 1.2 Gigabits/s upload./ ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFEx3ZLhVupqbmzoscRAzxkAJ9xiZBzW2GOqYsvwhsi1SRj4XT6rQCfbYAx mJFGolRzpoX5LwGmUPXsTGo= =fZsg -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
