Re: AW: [swinog] UCEProtect Blacklist

[Marco Meile]

I don't think that.

If you Pay Money for delisting, you can wait for a while and you are
listed again.
The Problem are the Dynamic IP Subnets. if to much of the Cosumers
Infected with any spambots,
the Subnet got listed again, and if 2 or 3 subnets in a AS are listed,
the whole are got listed...

so, the only way for sunrise i think is create a own AS for all Dynamic
Ranges and one for fixed/business ranges...

Regards

Marco

Xaver Aerni wrote:
 Hello,
 This is the Problem Sunrise won't pay money. And they want make money.
 I think the best way is to removie UCEProtect.net level 3 from your
 Blacklist. 
 Greetings
 Xaver 

   
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 Hi there

 We have some Problems with the UCEProtect.net blacklist.
 He lists some Subnets and AS who dosnt send Spam from us Customers...
 e.g. the AS6730 (Sunrise) a lot of us costumers using this 
 Provider have Problem on E-Mail Services.
 But really Spammers are not listed :D

 Maybe the Blacklists add some  subnets of Big Companys, cause 
 for delisting you need to pay some money...

 dnsstuff.com uses this blacklist in the lookup tool i dont 
 know how many providers using this list.

 Anyone there know more about this Blacklist?
 The Service is Provided by admins.ws
 and for the fun try www.admins.ws/../../etc/passwd


 Marco


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Re: [swinog] UCEProtect Blacklist

[Daniel Kamm]

On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 21:46 +0100, Marco Meile wrote:
 We have some Problems with the UCEProtect.net blacklist.

We considered UCEprotect as absolutely unreliable and unprofessional and
are ignoring listings there. And I think so are 'the big swiss ones'.
And for sure, it's impossible to handle all those RBL which are online.

IMO any postmaster who blockes mails upon one blacklist entry is ...
(what was that polite description of moron?) ;)

Cheers
 - Dan

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Re: [swinog] UCEProtect Blacklist

[Per Jessen]

Daniel Kamm wrote:

 On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 21:46 +0100, Marco Meile wrote:
 We have some Problems with the UCEProtect.net blacklist.
 
 We considered UCEprotect as absolutely unreliable and unprofessional
 and are ignoring listings there. And I think so are 'the big swiss
 ones'. 

Hi Daniel,

I would be interested to know why you find UCEprotect to be unreliable
and unprofessional?  

 IMO any postmaster who blockes mails upon one blacklist entry is ...
 (what was that polite description of moron?) ;)

There is no shortage of incompetent postmasters and mail-admins. :-(



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Re: [swinog] UCEProtect Blacklist

[Per Jessen]

Xaver Aerni wrote:

 Wy is unproffesional,
 UCEprotect is blocking AS I think this isn't proffesional. 

Actually, UCEprotect is not blocking anything.  They only provide the
means for other people to do so.  Anyone who uses UCEprotect level3
have been duly warned. 


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