Re: [swinog] following to my illegal service secret stuff
Hello list Zorg 421 wrote: [...] on an otherwise fairly idle and rarely interesting mailing list. Actually, that's what I, as a lurker, like about this list: a very low noise level, and interesting glimpses at the workings and machinations of the Swiss intertubes. If the list is silent, all is well. Please don't spoil it for everyone by forcing the list to become moderated. Going back to lurker mode now, Martin -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Martin 'stray' Kunz Ottigerst...@stray.ch Kommunikation Gestaltunghttp://stray.ch Dorfgasse 27 Voice +41 43 377 52 15 8810 Horgen Fax +41 43 377 52 16 Switzerland Mobile +41 79 430 39 98 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] following to my illegal service secret stuff
maybe we should close this threat from my oppinion its just trash and not worthfull to waste time and resources my five cents .. of course ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] following to my illegal service secret stuff
Oh, Mr Keller, I feel sincerely sorry.I cannot look myself in the mirror after getting conscious of the pain, the suffering I've put you thru by writing emails you could have ignored and thrashed, on an otherwise fairly idle and rarely interesting mailing list. Really sorry. How may I beg your pardon, Sir? On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 6:32 PM, André Keller tu...@tuxli.net wrote: BTW, getting more netadmin conscious of the existence of such abuse is perfectly on topic, in my opinion. Nope it isn't... Stop spamming the list... ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] following to my illegal service secret stuff
i think it makes sense to set up the approval for subscription requests, and ban all anonymous users - this makes it fair for everyone. - Original Message From: Steven Glogger ste...@glogger.ch To: Zorg 421 zorglub...@gmail.com; swi...@swinog.ch Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2009 10:12:57 PM Subject: Re: [swinog] following to my illegal service secret stuff sorry, zorg 1) but if you continue like this we have to think about putting this mailinglist into some kind of moderated mode. we will not allow you to abuse this list for any kind of revenge, for any kind of political fight or any kind of propaganda. 2) you're probably the only guy using a nick name / now showing the real name. do you have to hide something? 3) please read again the charter of swinog (http://www.swinog.ch/charter/index.asp) to get an idea what is this mailinglist - what is swinog for. especially the 3rd bullet might be interesting. greetings -steven From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Zorg 421 Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 4:54 PM To: swi...@swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] following to my illegal service secret stuff Hello, A following to my service secret stuff: - It does not seem linked much to the vaud state police before may-june 2008. - Between 2002 and 2007, it definitively seems linked to the DDPS / SRS (Strategischer Nachrichtendienst SND), the agents close to me being RENATO and GADLU. The goal of all of this mess: Infiltrating the internet community (in this experiment, thru me) and get close to people able to engineer traffic spying device, by using the filtrating proxy and anti-pedocriminality coverup. The whitebox setup is a perfect setup for illegal spying activities that spying shop are so eager to have under their hands. Don't dream much: they are laws regulating that kind of action, but service secret office people always complain about the hassle to go thru the legal way. With me, their have been pushing way too far, but beware, they may act more sensibly next time. I've added some abstract and conclusion to the website, but it's still in french only. http://helvetic-park.bravehost.com/ Regards. ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] following to my illegal service secret stuff
Full ACK Günti --- Ursprüngliche Nachricht --- Von: Stanislav Sinyagin ssinya...@yahoo.com Betreff: Re: [swinog] following to my illegal service secret stuff Datum: 2. Februar 2009 Uhrzeit: 20:18:22 i think it makes sense to set up the approval for subscription requests, and ban all anonymous users - this makes it fair for everyone. - Original Message From: Steven Glogger ste...@glogger.ch To: Zorg 421 zorglub...@gmail.com; swi...@swinog.ch Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2009 10:12:57 PM Subject: Re: [swinog] following to my illegal service secret stuff sorry, zorg 1) but if you continue like this we have to think about putting this mailinglist into some kind of moderated mode. we will not allow you to abuse this list for any kind of revenge, for any kind of political fight or any kind of propaganda. 2) you're probably the only guy using a nick name / now showing the real name. do you have to hide something? 3) please read again the charter of swinog (http://www.swinog.ch/charter/index.asp) to get an idea what is this mailinglist - what is swinog for. especially the 3rd bullet might be interesting. greetings -steven From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Zorg 421 Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 4:54 PM To: swi...@swinog.ch Subject: [swinog] following to my illegal service secret stuff Hello, A following to my service secret stuff: - It does not seem linked much to the vaud state police before may-june 2008. - Between 2002 and 2007, it definitively seems linked to the DDPS / SRS (Strategischer Nachrichtendienst SND), the agents close to me being RENATO and GADLU. The goal of all of this mess: Infiltrating the internet community (in this experiment, thru me) and get close to people able to engineer traffic spying device, by using the filtrating proxy and anti-pedocriminality coverup. The whitebox setup is a perfect setup for illegal spying activities that spying shop are so eager to have under their hands. Don't dream much: they are laws regulating that kind of action, but service secret office people always complain about the hassle to go thru the legal way. With me, their have been pushing way too far, but beware, they may act more sensibly next time. I've added some abstract and conclusion to the website, but it's still in french only. http://helvetic-park.bravehost.com/ Regards. ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] following to my illegal service secret stuff
On the Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 11:17:45AM -0800, Stanislav Sinyagin blubbered: Hi all. i think it makes sense to set up the approval for subscription requests, and ban all anonymous users - this makes it fair for everyone. [Gefasel gelöscht] I second that. CU, Venty -- What we're planning here is World-Domination! ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] following to my illegal service secret stuff
Hello, A following to my service secret stuff: - It does not seem linked much to the vaud state police before may-june 2008. - Between 2002 and 2007, it definitively seems linked to the DDPS / SRS (Strategischer Nachrichtendienst SND), the agents close to me being RENATO and GADLU. The goal of all of this mess: Infiltrating the internet community (in this experiment, thru me) and get close to people able to engineer traffic spying device, by using the filtrating proxy and anti-pedocriminality coverup. The whitebox setup is a perfect setup for illegal spying activities that spying shop are so eager to have under their hands. Don't dream much: they are laws regulating that kind of action, but service secret office people always complain about the hassle to go thru the legal way. With me, their have been pushing way too far, but beware, they may act more sensibly next time. I've added some abstract and conclusion to the website, but it's still in french only. http://helvetic-park.bravehost.com/ Regards. ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
