Re: AW: [swinog] future of dls

2005-07-29 Diskussionsfäden Martin Ebnoether
Glogger Steven schrieb: What does the V in VDSL stand vor anyway? Video? Virtual? Venty? very high bit-rate DSL :-) Ah so. =:-) What comes next? UDSL for Ultra? Never let a marketdroid choose a name or this is what you get. CU, Venty P.S. Venty-DSL would have been cool.

AW: [swinog] future of dls

2005-07-29 Diskussionsfäden Glogger Steven
> What does the V in VDSL stand vor anyway? Video? Virtual? Venty? very high bit-rate DSL :-) -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

Re: [swinog] future of dls

2005-07-29 Diskussionsfäden Martin Ebnoether
Thomas Kernen schrieb: It is VDSL2 but since there has been no large scale VDSL deployment in Switzerland not many non technical people are aware of VDSL(1) hence VDSL2 is simply referred to as VDSL. What does the V in VDSL stand vor anyway? Video? Virtual? Venty? CU, Venty _

Re: [swinog] future of dls

2005-07-29 Diskussionsfäden Thomas Kernen
Neil J. McRae wrote: Swisscom is not going to do ADSL2+ at all. They want to jump directly to VDSL. Whether this will work out as they think it will remains to be seen. The TV thing didn't go as they expected either. However what I know is that all the 'excessive' bandwidth available with VDSL

RE: [swinog] future of dls

2005-07-28 Diskussionsfäden Gabriel Boissonnard
|I doubt it would be VDSL - more likely VDSL2. Which gives |them a very limited footprint. Distances with VDSL2 are very |limited. Indeed. There was a short talk 2 months ago by Swisscom, explaining their plan to deploy VDSL2, which actually implies moving the exchanges closer to the users, and t

RE: [swinog] future of dls

2005-07-27 Diskussionsfäden Neil J. McRae
> Swisscom is not going to do ADSL2+ at all. They want to jump > directly to VDSL. Whether this will work out as they think it > will remains to be seen. The TV thing didn't go as they > expected either. However what I know is that all the > 'excessive' bandwidth available with VDSL will only b

Re: [swinog] future of dls

2005-07-27 Diskussionsfäden Thomas Kernen
Michel Renfer wrote: I know is that all the 'excessive' bandwidth available with VDSL will only be used for HDTV streaming. So don't hold your breath for 20Mbit Internet surfing. Ack! TV streams will have strict priority over internet traffic. So surfing at (very) highspeed and hdtv streamin

RE: [swinog] future of dls

2005-07-20 Diskussionsfäden Mauro Canal
Hello > Many customer won't pay 40 francs per month just for a bit > surfing or for > download e-mail. > Users comming from Dial-In they would like this new offer. > We also have such an offer and believe me, that's very popular! That Sunrise offer is just a "Bauernfänger": 20 MB are exhausted

AW: [swinog] future of dls

2005-07-20 Diskussionsfäden Walter Onda (Glattwerk)
Hi >I doubt though that this will be a big success since flatrates >are very popular. Many customer won't pay 40 francs per month just for a bit surfing or for download e-mail. Users comming from Dial-In they would like this new offer. We also have such an offer and believe me, that's very popu

Re: [swinog] future of dls

2005-07-20 Diskussionsfäden Martin Ebnoether
Andre Oppermann schrieb: Hi. Swiss ISP's can only offer what Swisscom gives them (for ADSL that is). And Swisscom is not very forthcoming in this regard. The only true competition they have is Cablecom. Put that way, Swisscom will not upgrade speed, until Cablecom upgraded yet another time.

Re: [swinog] future of dls

2005-07-20 Diskussionsfäden Jean-Pierre Schwickerath
> > I know is that all the 'excessive' bandwidth available with VDSL > > will only be used for HDTV streaming. So don't hold your breath for > > 20Mbit Internet surfing. > > Ack! > > TV streams will have strict priority over internet traffic. So surfing > at > (very) highspeed and hdtv stream

RE: [swinog] future of dls

2005-07-20 Diskussionsfäden Michel Renfer
> I know is that all the 'excessive' bandwidth available with VDSL will > only be used for HDTV streaming. So don't hold your breath for 20Mbit > Internet surfing. Ack! TV streams will have strict priority over internet traffic. So surfing at (very) highspeed and hdtv streaming won't be possibl

Re: [swinog] future of dls

2005-07-20 Diskussionsfäden Nik Hug
Hello From: "Glogger Steven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [..] as far as i know swisscom never talked about ADSL2+ but used words like SDSL and maybe VDSL... so, let us see what the future brings us... and the speed on these two new sdsl-products is "low" - maximum 1800/1800kBps .. but if you get

Re: [swinog] future of dls

2005-07-20 Diskussionsfäden Andre Oppermann
Michel Renfer wrote: > > Hi Jean-Pierre > > In the actual situation without unbundling it's 'just' a question > what swisscom would do. Actually i didn't have any information, if > swisscom would support adsl2+ Swisscom is not going to do ADSL2+ at all. They want to jump directly to VDSL. Whethe

Re: [swinog] future of dls

2005-07-20 Diskussionsfäden Andre Oppermann
Jean-Pierre Schwickerath wrote: > > Hello everyone, > > I just read that Netgear proposes a firmware upgrade for their routers > to support ADSL2+ and in Germany ISP are overbidding themselves with > always increasing bandwidths. > > Does anyone have reliable information about what swiss broadba

AW: [swinog] future of dls

2005-07-20 Diskussionsfäden Glogger Steven
th > Gesendet: Mittwoch, 20. Juli 2005 11:39 > An: swinog@swinog.ch > Betreff: [swinog] future of dls > > Hello everyone, > > I just read that Netgear proposes a firmware upgrade for > their routers to support ADSL2+ and in Germany ISP are > overbidding themselves w

RE: [swinog] future of dls

2005-07-20 Diskussionsfäden Michel Renfer
EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Jean-Pierre Schwickerath > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 11:39 AM > To: swinog@swinog.ch > Subject: [swinog] future of dls > > Hello everyone, > > I just read that Netgear proposes a firmware upgrade for their routers > to support ADSL2+ and

[swinog] future of dls

2005-07-20 Diskussionsfäden Jean-Pierre Schwickerath
Hello everyone, I just read that Netgear proposes a firmware upgrade for their routers to support ADSL2+ and in Germany ISP are overbidding themselves with always increasing bandwidths. Does anyone have reliable information about what swiss broadband ISPs plan to offer in the next future? Reg