Re: [swinog] BBCS

2003-02-11 Thread Andre Oppermann
Michel Renfer wrote: it seems, that our bbcs cer router had a crash and reload itself :-( Sweet. I love IOS. What version do you run? GrĂ¼sse -- Andre -Original Message- From: Viktor Steinmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 8:47 AM To: [EMAIL

[swinog] Received some fun letter from UVEK ?

2003-02-11 Thread Pascal Gloor
I hope we're all having a big party together tonite to welcome that nice document - what are we doing to do? - go down to the street with banners? - try to implement as best as possible, even if it doesnt exactly fit in the requirements ? - I remember Orange communications has

AW: [swinog] Received some fun letter from UVEK ?

2003-02-11 Thread Steven Glogger
hi pascal the shitty letter about 'packet switched services / delivery of intercepted electronic mail'? hmm i don't know what to do with it :) - what are we doing to do? drink tea and eat cookies. and use this letter as notice paper for further swinog meetings :) - go down to the

RE: [swinog] Received some fun letter from UVEK ?

2003-02-11 Thread Michel Renfer
would be a good idea. but remember the 'classified/confidential' status of the letter. Why are this specifiations classified? It is such a big secret? *huh* From my part i don't see any problem. Or have you subscribe some sort of Lawful interception NDA ? regards, mike

Re: [swinog] Received some fun letter from UVEK ?

2003-02-11 Thread Pascal Gloor
not good idea. this is confidential. if we go on street with banners it's not confidential at all :) would be a good idea. but remember the 'classified/confidential' status of the letter. Sure, the content of the letter is confidential, but dont forget that 99% of the letter content is

R: [swinog] Received some fun letter from UVEK ?

2003-02-11 Thread Manuel Wenger
From my part i don't see any problem. Or have you subscribe some sort of Lawful interception NDA ? No, you haven't, but I've asked a lawyer, and yes - a law exists saying that the Swiss guvm't can send you classified letters, and you're supposed to treat them this way. Otherwise you could

Re: [swinog] Received some fun letter from UVEK ?

2003-02-11 Thread Fredy Kuenzler
Pascal Gloor wrote: I still propose an [EMAIL PROTECTED] to be opened asap. Fredy can you do that? Ok, will do until tomorrow evening. Anyone able to provide some MhonArc mail archive functionality, which allows password protected archive / search? F.

AW: [swinog] Swisscom Copper lines still available?

2003-02-11 Thread Steven Glogger
they still exist. i order mine over the wholesale center in zurich. but you might try it a the Entreprise Solution / CSA-E Tel: 0800 800 175 ask for rosmarie schlussel. she's nice there. but i don't know, if she still works there (my last contact was 1 year ago) :) but

Re: [swinog] Swisscom Copper lines still available?

2003-02-11 Thread mw
AFAIK this plain old thing has a new fancy name, which I cannot remember. I recently got a price quote for a copper line in Zuerich (we're dealing with Swisscom Wholesale, you'll have different contacts if your dealing with Enterprise Services). I asked for an MC2 line, which certainly is not an

RE: [swinog] Swisscom Copper lines still available?

2003-02-11 Thread Michel Renfer
the name is the past was MC2 or MC4 (Direct Link) -Original Message- From: Fredy Kuenzler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 3:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [swinog] Swisscom Copper lines still available? A. Uk / dataway GmbH wrote: Does anyone

AW: [swinog] Swisscom Copper lines still available?

2003-02-11 Thread Steven Glogger
hi everyone AFAIK the product is called 'leased line national'. i uploaded the request-form to www.altrax.com/forms/swisscom/ there are two (sorry, it's word, it got it from swisscom): old swisscom form.doc was the old formular (should be still valid) swisscom lesed line national.doc is the

R: [swinog] Swisscom Copper lines still available?

2003-02-11 Thread Manuel Wenger
the name is the past was MC2 or MC4 (Direct Link) Direct link AFAIK are (were) DH2 resp. DH4 lines. I've asked our account manager. He told me that today the products are simply called Uebertragungsmedien and they still exist. Regards Manuel

AW: [swinog] Swisscom Copper lines still available?

2003-02-11 Thread Steven Glogger
swisscom is chaotic :) just mark the 'copper' in the form and everything will (probably) be fine :) -steven -Ursprungliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Im Auftrag von A. Uk / dataway GmbH Gesendet: Dienstag, 11. Februar 2003 16:03 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [swinog] Swisscom Copper lines still available?

2003-02-11 Thread Roger Buchwalder
Hi Anthony There are two different types of lines (for swisscom) 1. copper 2-wire = MC2 copper 4-wire = MC4 2. National Leased Lines Copper are only avaiable in the Range of the same Telefonzentrale It is not possible to go over two or more PBX-Points (sorry, my interpretation) That means, if

Re: [swinog] Swisscom Copper lines still available?

2003-02-11 Thread Alexis Caceda
Hi Anthony! Leased Line or Private Line National or Carrier Line national Basic = expensive, swiss wide product which Swisscom provides you with modems (64kbps = 155Mbps) Direct Link = like Uebertragungsmedium but Swisscom provides you with the modems (64kbps = 2048kbps) Uebertragungsmedium =

Re: [swinog] Swisscom Copper lines still available?

2003-02-11 Thread Pascal Gloor
DH lines are including modems MC lines are pure copper point2point You forgot the MH lines... DSL cupper lines more expensive than MC but exactly the same cupper/service :-P P. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: