Re: AW: [swinog] Black Sheep Swiss ISP: Backbone Solutions (was:Backbone PRO)

2003-04-04 Thread Roger Buchwalder
i got spam form backbone, but can't remebmer one ore more. but i didn't care, i put it directly to the :null0 i'll think about to stop peering too R Viktor Steinmann schrieb: We probably should all turn down peering session with Backbone Solutions to show them our gratitude for spamming. Are

Re: [swinog] Nedi Tool

2003-04-04 Thread John Morgan Salomon
Mail Remo--he runs it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tell him I said hi :) Strina Nicolas wrote: Hello, I would like to know if someone is using Nedi on his network ? I have some troubles ... Thanks, Nicolas STRINA Nicolas IP Network Engineer VTX Services -

RE: [swinog] Nedi Tool

2003-04-04 Thread Rickli Remo
We are :-) -Original Message- From: Strina Nicolas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Freitag, 4. April 2003 09:50 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [swinog] Nedi Tool Hello, I would like to know if someone is using Nedi on his network ? I have some troubles ... Thanks, Nicolas

RE: AW: [swinog] Black Sheep Swiss ISP: Backbone Solutions (was: Backbone PRO)

2003-04-04 Thread Steven Glogger
yes, we got also spam. i wrote twice to mr. vontobel and phoned twice with him (the 2 spammings before). he told me so many nice stories.. ... addresses from twixtel ... ... the put it into their customer database and now they cannot distinguish between these addresses and their 'real customers'

Re: AW: [swinog] Black Sheep Swiss ISP: Backbone Solutions (was: Backbone PRO)

2003-04-04 Thread A. Uk / dataway GmbH
Yes, I received said spam too as well as other previous spam messages from the same people. I have blocked [EMAIL PROTECTED] The idea of stopping the peering is a good one which I will adopt now. Of course it would be better to keep the peering and announce invalid routes to them... -anthony

Re: AW: [swinog] Black Sheep Swiss ISP: Backbone Solutions (was: Backbone PRO)

2003-04-04 Thread Nik Hug
Are there other people on this list, which have been spammed by them? If it's only Fredy, then I'm not sure, if we can really call it spam. If it is spam, I will gladly stop peering with them... got it also - but I think they have my contact address from my business card I gave to them some

Re: AW: [swinog] Black Sheep Swiss ISP: Backbone Solutions (was: Backbone PRO)

2003-04-04 Thread A. Uk / dataway GmbH
I respectfully disagree. It is one thing to be harbouring spammers, but quite another to be one. This is also not the first time, and discussions with Backbone have proved fruitless. It's thus painfully clear that Backbone are not at all interested in conducting themselves as would befit a good

Re: [swinog] Black Sheep Swiss ISP: Backbone Solutions (was: Backbone PRO)

2003-04-04 Thread Daniel Lorch
hi, I respectfully disagree. It is one thing to be harbouring spammers, but quite another to be one. This is also not the first time, and discussions with Backbone have proved fruitless. It's thus painfully clear that Backbone are not at all interested in conducting themselves as would befit

Re: AW: [swinog] Black Sheep Swiss ISP: Backbone Solutions (was: Backbone PRO)

2003-04-04 Thread Viktor Steinmann
We gladly peer with every ISP there is in CH for free.. BUT A company which sends out spam and doesn't respect internet standards like netiquette is NO ISP. They are just a company lucky enough to have an own AS. So they should pay for transit to get their spam to us. Peering session removed.

[swinog] SwiNOG-6 Registration page

2003-04-04 Thread Pascal Gloor
The SwiNOG-6 Registration and List of participants page is not up-and-running again, I moved it to another server. Just follow the link on the following page: http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog6/ Regards, P. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [swinog] SwiNOG-6 Registration page

2003-04-04 Thread Pascal Gloor
The SwiNOG-6 Registration and List of participants page is not up-and-running again, I moved it to another server. typo, not - NOW for sure... P. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/

Re: AW: [swinog] Black Sheep Swiss ISP: Backbone Solutions (was: Backbone PRO)

2003-04-04 Thread Raimondo Carluccio
Imho putting a access-list on your mail server or peering routers to deny all incoming mail from them would do WAY more harm than cut a peering. The management of a small ISP usualy don't care that much of peerings, it's usualy more a techies own pleasure. But if customers notice and start to

RE: [swinog] Black Sheep Swiss ISP: Backbone Solutions (was: Backbone PRO)

2003-04-04 Thread Guentensperger, Robert
Title: RE: [swinog] Black Sheep Swiss ISP: Backbone Solutions (was: Backbone PRO) Hi My two cents: |Finally as ISP you want to earn money and not give your |network for free... Example: An GigE connection at PAIX (Palo Alto NAP) would cost us over 14'000 US$ per month (!!!) In this price

[swinog] SwiNOG-6 Meeting Registration Status

2003-04-04 Thread Pascal Gloor
Dear SwiNOGers ! The SwiNOG-6 Registration is now closed. The good news is that the meeting room can take 85 people and our sponsor, Sprint, agreed to increase the number of participants! Therefore, I am happy to tell you that all PENDING registrations have been accepted! Further informations

Re: [swinog] Black Sheep Swiss ISP: Backbone Solutions (was: Backbone PRO)

2003-04-04 Thread Jim Romaguera
Hi Daniel, In a peering, both sides of the peer decide how many prefixes/ASNs they will anounce to each other. This allows a UUnet to say I'll announce only my CH-ASN (or EU or global or whatever ASN it decides makes sense). In general, such peerings are done because both parties can tailor a

RE: [swinog] SwiNOG-6 Meeting Registration Status

2003-04-04 Thread Steven Glogger
In the name of the SwiNOG CoreTeam, I wish you a nice flight with SwiNOGAir. nice from sprint to organize a flight to berne :)) -steven -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Pascal Gloor Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 3:28 PM To: [EMAIL

Re: [swinog] Black Sheep Swiss ISP: Backbone Solutions (was: BackbonePRO)

2003-04-04 Thread Fredy Kuenzler
Jim, Jim Romaguera wrote: In a peering, both sides of the peer decide how many prefixes/ASNs they will [... snipped] Anyway...my 2cents worth. Cheers JIm Full ACK. Couldn't explain better. (In your next live, you could be a BGP teacher ;-P) F. --

RE: [swinog] SwiNOG-6 Meeting Registration Status

2003-04-04 Thread Guentensperger, Robert
Title: RE: [swinog] SwiNOG-6 Meeting Registration Status I want to have a window seat! Günti |-Original Message- |From: Steven Glogger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Freitag, 4. April 2003 16:03 |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: RE: [swinog] SwiNOG-6 Meeting Registration Status

Re: [swinog] Black Sheep Swiss ISP: Backbone Solutions (was: BackbonePRO)

2003-04-04 Thread Andre Oppermann
Fredy Kuenzler wrote: Jim, Jim Romaguera wrote: In a peering, both sides of the peer decide how many prefixes/ASNs they will [... snipped] Anyway...my 2cents worth. Cheers JIm Full ACK. Couldn't explain better. (In your next live, you could be a BGP teacher ;-P) Full ACK from

[swinog] SwiNOG-6 social event info

2003-04-04 Thread Michel Renfer
Hi All Below you will find the diner list for the social part. We can then choose at the restaurant which one you will take. Please let me know, when you can't participate at the dinner so i can inform the restaurant. We will make two parts of the socal event. First a little apèro (Sponsor??)

[swinog] BGP RouteServer Problems

2003-04-04 Thread Pascal Gloor
Dear RouteServer Peers and Users, The service is not re-established. It seems the crashes were due to some problems with the MultiProcessing. This has now been temporary disabled. I'm in touch with the hardware sponsor (Geneva Airport), to exchange the hardware for two smaller servers. One will

Re: [swinog] BGP RouteServer Problems

2003-04-04 Thread Pascal Gloor
The service is not re-established. It seems the w key has been replaced by the t key on my keyboard today. Again, NOT = NOW! Sorry, P. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Maillist-Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/swinog%40swinog.ch/