Re: [sword-devel] Windows users as poor cousins?

2009-10-03 Thread Matthew Talbert
or not, I cannot judge). BPBible uses VC++ to build Sword binaries to make it work with the standard Python distribution on Windows. Just so you know, it's completely possible to build the Sword binaries and the Python SWIG bindings with MinGW on Windows, and have them work with the standard

Re: [sword-devel] Windows users as poor cousins?

2009-10-03 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Jonathan Morgan wrote (after quoting my entire lengthy message): In my opinon, the expected compiler to be used for Windows binaries is VC++, whether it is proprietary or not (for example, ask Mozilla, or OpenOffice, or Python). Expected by whom? Microsoft does not provide a compiler and

Re: [sword-devel] Windows users as poor cousins?

2009-10-03 Thread Matthew Talbert
I'll just say once again, that the sword binaries people are looking for at this point, is BibleCS 1.6.0 (which doesn't exist yet). There is *no* method of compiling this with gcc, so there's no point in even attempting it. The binaries of SWORD itself (including the utilities) are already

Re: [sword-devel] Windows users as poor cousins?

2009-10-03 Thread Ben Morgan
Hi Jonathan, Visual Studio is the best way to compile on Windows. I used to compile with mingw + msys, but the environment feels slow and clumsy, and it produces larger, slower executables. And Visual Studio is free - you can download the express editions. Visual Studio seems to me much easier

[sword-devel] Current downloadable binary Windows SWORD library (and utility) versions?

2009-10-03 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Matthew Talbert wrote: The binaries of SWORD itself (including the utilities) are already available and have been available since very soon after the release of 1.6.0, both from Crosswire and packaged with Xiphos. This would seem to suggest that the Xiphos 3.1.1a -supplied version of

Re: [sword-devel] Current downloadable binary Windows SWORD library (and utility) versions?

2009-10-03 Thread Jonathan Marsden
Jonathan Marsden wrote: This would seem to suggest that the Xiphos 3.1.1a -supplied version of osis2mod, which says it is r2169, is really r2400 (1.6.0) or later, in disguise? It doesn't appear to have the -d option or the -v option ... It *does* have -v, my mistake. But r2169 is from May

Re: [sword-devel] Current downloadable binary Windows SWORD library (and utility) versions?

2009-10-03 Thread Matthew Talbert
This would seem to suggest that the Xiphos 3.1.1a -supplied version of osis2mod, which says it is r2169, is really r2400 (1.6.0) or later, in disguise?  It doesn't appear to have the -d option or the -v option (its help output lacks them, at least). Yes, actually it is a more recent version

Re: [sword-devel] Current downloadable binary Windows SWORD library (and utility) versions?

2009-10-03 Thread Matthew Talbert
I thought this is the kind of use case we are talking about here -- people (SWORD power users, if you like) wanting current SWORD code (in binary form) for Windows, because the recent SWORD library svn versions have bug fixes and enhancements which earlier, released, SWORD binaries for

Re: [sword-devel] compiling on Windows

2009-10-03 Thread David Haslam
Hi Matthew, Please see http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/Talk:Tutorial:Compiling_%26_Installing_SWORD http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/Talk:Tutorial:Compiling_%26_Installing_SWORD Let's have the useful stuff where it is easily accessed. David Matthew Talbert wrote: Are you wanting: 1.

Re: [sword-devel] compiling on Windows

2009-10-03 Thread Dan Blake
Matthew Talbert wrote: On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 10:42 PM, Gerald Zimmerman cyberko...@yahoo.com wrote: I have an additional request. Windows, as delivered, makes everything easy for frontenders but ignores any thirst for the knowledge of compiling. I suspect that any of us Windows users

Re: [sword-devel] compiling on Windows

2009-10-03 Thread Matthew Talbert
I am not a programmer ( I'm a wanna be) but have access to MS Visual Studio 6, 2005 2008, so options 1 and 3 would be the most beneficial for me.  I think having all of these options documented on the wiki as David Haslam has suggested would be valuable. Feel free to put this on the wiki :)

Re: [sword-devel] compiling on Windows

2009-10-03 Thread Dan Blake
Matthew Talbert wrote: I am not a programmer ( I'm a wanna be) but have access to MS Visual Studio 6, 2005 2008, so options 1 and 3 would be the most beneficial for me. I think having all of these options documented on the wiki as David Haslam has suggested would be valuable. Feel free

Re: [sword-devel] compiling on Windows

2009-10-03 Thread Chris Little
Matthew Talbert wrote: I am not a programmer ( I'm a wanna be) but have access to MS Visual Studio 6, 2005 2008, so options 1 and 3 would be the most beneficial for me. I think having all of these options documented on the wiki as David Haslam has suggested would be valuable. Feel free to

Re: [sword-devel] Windows users as poor cousins?

2009-10-03 Thread Greg Hellings
On Sat, Oct 3, 2009 at 4:03 AM, Jonathan Marsden jmars...@fastmail.fm wrote: Jonathan Morgan wrote (after quoting my entire lengthy message): In my opinon, the expected compiler to be used for Windows binaries is VC++, whether it is proprietary or not (for example, ask Mozilla, or