Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire mirroring

2013-01-04 Thread Andrew Thule
It's a good idea to put this in the wiki. Might I recommend (since it appeared previously on this list Legitimate FTP Mirrors Module Distribution Rights Question) that the following be added: Modules specifically licensed to Crosswire may not be redistributed. For all others, as long as the

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire mirroring

2013-01-04 Thread Greg Hellings
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 3:06 PM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: If someone posts to sword-support a problem with the text in a module (we get these all the time), having mirrors complicates support. If Fedora can have many dozen mirrors, and Debian can have many dozen mirrors and so can

Re: [sword-devel] [jsword-devel] StrongNumber in indexing

2013-01-04 Thread Chris Burrell
There are two separate issues here. 1- The fact that we retrieve the closest match to a strong number is IMHO rather obscure and confusing in itself. I've hit this several times and found through rather laborious investigation that a module was using a bad strong number, or some piece of code

Re: [sword-devel] cmake python

2013-01-04 Thread Greg Hellings
Ben, I just made a series of commits which further improve handling of Python builds. They do the following: 1) Move handling of bindings configuration up a directory level so CMake can include support for bindings other than SWIG in the future (unrelated to your complaint) 2) Add detection for

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire mirroring

2013-01-04 Thread Andrew Thule
On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:06 PM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: Andrew, I was careful not to say what you proposed. The quote you suggest is technically/true/correct/good as far as it goes. The other bullets I gave are why we discourage mirroring even for those. You're (licensing)

Re: [sword-devel] [jsword-devel] StrongNumber in indexing

2013-01-04 Thread DM Smith
On Jan 4, 2013, at 4:34 PM, Chris Burrell ch...@burrell.me.uk wrote: There are two separate issues here. 1- The fact that we retrieve the closest match to a strong number is IMHO rather obscure and confusing in itself. I've hit this several times and found through rather laborious

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire mirroring

2013-01-04 Thread DM Smith
Regarding Fedora, I find that the mirrors differ significantly. Some have old releases, but no new releases. Some have the latest release but no updates. Some may have the alphas and/or the betas. Using yum, I have had some updates fail because they have dependencies that have not reached the

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire mirroring

2013-01-04 Thread Chris Burrell
And, a lot of the the tools using mirrors are generally addressed to a fairly technical community. The other big difference is obviously that the linux community is massive, and we are small in comparison. But I'm all up for more resilience if that's something we've had an issue with? On 4

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire mirroring

2013-01-04 Thread DM Smith
Andrew, How do you handle modules that are removed from CrossWire? Do you use rsync w/ --delete? -- DM On Jan 4, 2013, at 4:49 PM, Andrew Thule thules...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 4:06 PM, DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org wrote: Andrew, I was careful not to say what you

[sword-devel] CMake ICU (was Re: cmake python)

2013-01-04 Thread Greg Hellings
On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 12:51 PM, crick...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 9:27 PM, crick...@gmail.com wrote: Here's a patch that helps some with osistest. I still get the following error when I run

Re: [sword-devel] [jsword-devel] StrongNumber in indexing

2013-01-04 Thread Chris Burrell
Sounds good. A few notes, - the STEP interlinear functionality tries (tried?) to use this functionality to provide better interlinears. We currently don't use the x-split/or src, but could do either. - With H00, it was accepted that H00 almost always referred to the next tag,

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire mirroring

2013-01-04 Thread Andrew Thule
I don't actually have ssh access to CrossWire, so I'm not using the rsync protocol, rather I do have ftp access so using ftp, if a module is removed from CrossWire, the change is detected and removed from my mirror. Basically I'm using FTP to replicate RSYNC functionality, but yes - additions,

Re: [sword-devel] CMake ICU (was Re: cmake python)

2013-01-04 Thread Andrew Thule
I'm curious, why do people seem to prefer cmake to make? Is that a python thing? ~A On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.comwrote: On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 12:51 PM, crick...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Greg Hellings

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire mirroring

2013-01-04 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Fri, 2013-01-04 at 16:49 -0500, Andrew Thule wrote: That said, whatever you decided to do with respect to (re)distribution rights will be honoured, but it needs to be clearly communicated. If modules are not to be redistributed, impose that constraint and be transparent about it. It is

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire mirroring

2013-01-04 Thread Andrew Thule
Peter, please temper your judgement with mercy. Your claims here are neither correct nor fair. On Friday, January 4, 2013, Peter von Kaehne wrote: On Fri, 2013-01-04 at 16:49 -0500, Andrew Thule wrote: It is clear. Your lack of respect for what is expressed in the conf file re Distribution

Re: [sword-devel] ISV status?

2013-01-04 Thread Chris Little
On 1/4/2013 12:11 PM, Andrew Thule wrote: On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 1:35 AM, Chris Little chris...@crosswire.org mailto:chris...@crosswire.org wrote: We've actually had specific discussions with you about our not wanting you to redistribute our modules, specifically because of