Re: [sword-devel] I implore you...

2013-06-10 Thread David Haslam
Having responded for the location of mid-verse titles in the USFM source files used for a module already released (TurNTB), but based an authorized workaround, the other examples which need to be tested and solved are in the USFM source files for the *Tok Pisin* Bible which Michael Johnson

Re: [sword-devel] I implore you...

2013-06-10 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Jaak, I accepted and applied your header file patch nearly 5 months ago. Are you telling me that you still have 549 warnings from SWORD headers? Troy On 06/09/2013 11:55 PM, Jaak Ristioja wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09.06.2013 23:21, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:

Re: [sword-devel] I implore you...

2013-06-10 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
I am unaware that SWORD does not support mid-verse section headings. They are the easier case, as opposed to pre-verse section headings which require special treatment. I am simply looking for a known location in existing module with a mid-verse heading to check and see. If you know of one,

Re: [sword-devel] I implore you...

2013-06-10 Thread Chris Little
I believe that the issue is simply that osis2mod identifies all titles as pre-verse titles. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but that's the only issue I can really imagine. --Chris On 6/9/2013 11:46 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: I am unaware that SWORD does not support mid-verse section

Re: [sword-devel] I implore you...

2013-06-10 Thread Ben Morgan
They are supported. E.g. Song of Solomon in the ESV has them. E.g. 4:16: http://crosswire.org/study/passagestudy.jsp?key=Song+of+Solomon+4%3A16#cv Note that some of the titles here do look weird, but they are supported. God Bless, Ben -

Re: [sword-devel] crosswire.org HTTPS certificate problems

2013-06-10 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 09/06/13 21:23, Greg Hellings wrote: I don't think the crosswire cert has ever been made wildcard as those certificates can be much more expensive. So even if it wasn't out of date you'd probably see that warning. StartSSL Class 2 certificate (which includes wild cards) is $59.90. Is it

Re: [sword-devel] I implore you...

2013-06-10 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Dear Greg, Von: Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com On Jun 9, 2013 4:28 PM, Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.org wrote: Do all the bindings build ok?  It sounded like Peter still had some troubles. I can work with him to find the difference between his environment and mine and resolve

Re: [sword-devel] I implore you...

2013-06-10 Thread DM Smith
Osis2mod no longer does that. Mid verse titles are left as is where they occur. Cent from my fone so theer mite be tipos. ;) On Jun 10, 2013, at 2:50 AM, Chris Little chris...@crosswire.org wrote: I believe that the issue is simply that osis2mod identifies all titles as pre-verse titles.

Re: [sword-devel] I implore you...

2013-06-10 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Glad to hear Jaak. Your patches were committed with log messages as: r2779 | scribe | 2013-01-29 01:06:01 +0100 (Tue, 29 Jan 2013) | 2 lines Committed patch to safely bypass warnings for unused variables in empty virtual

[sword-devel] Perl Bindings (was: I implore you...)

2013-06-10 Thread Greg Hellings
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 5:39 AM, Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote: Dear Greg, Von: Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com On Jun 9, 2013 4:28 PM, Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.org wrote: Do all the bindings build ok? It sounded like Peter still had some troubles. I can work

Re: [sword-devel] I implore you...

2013-06-10 Thread David Haslam
At the time we prepared the TurNTB module for release, we were told that SWORD did not support mid-verse titles. Accordingly, the module was built after implementing the negotiated workarounds in the USFM file for Acts. My difficulty is this: Starting with received USFM files in which there are

Re: [sword-devel] I implore you...

2013-06-10 Thread David Haslam
Addendum: When I wrote: If it doesn't find them there, the OSIS transformations described elsewhere (the adding of the attribute subType=x-preverse) simply doesn't happen. I should also have included, ( and moving the section title to AFTER the verse sID milestone) David -- View this

Re: [sword-devel] I implore you...

2013-06-10 Thread Jaak Ristioja
Actually I just remembered another serious flaw which causes a headache for developers using Sword. I'll write a patch ASAP. Blessings, Jaak On 10.06.2013 09:43, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: Jaak, I accepted and applied your header file patch nearly 5 months ago. Are you telling me that you

Re: [sword-devel] I implore you...

2013-06-10 Thread Jaak Ristioja
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I'm working on the patch but here's a short overview of the problem, in case discussion is required. The problem is that source code using Sword can't do stuff like: #include sword/versekey.h This is VERY BAD, because we must do #include

Re: [sword-devel] I implore you...

2013-06-10 Thread DM Smith
A bit more on titles. In the old, old osis2mod (i.e. many versions ago) the expectation was that the only markup between verses would be titles and that titles would occur no where else. At that time, the code pulled all titles out of the verse, no matter where they occurred and prefixed the

Re: [sword-devel] I implore you...

2013-06-10 Thread Jaak Ristioja
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Attached is a patch for this. Please apply. SHA1SUM: 9a99e34ce419ea3288a32148d431ec971fb0e675 Blessings, Jaak On 10.06.2013 19:38, Jaak Ristioja wrote: I'm working on the patch but here's a short overview of the problem, in case discussion is

Re: [sword-devel] I implore you...

2013-06-10 Thread David Haslam
DM's message clarifies where the new release is heading, but it doesn't alter the fact that usfm2osis.py places section titles before the eID milestone of the previous verse (when there is one). With the new release therefore, the new osis2mod (even after recompiling for version 1.7), would

Re: [sword-devel] I implore you...

2013-06-10 Thread Jaak Ristioja
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Argh, someone must have changed things on SVN lately, so this patch was invalid for the current trunk... I wish you guys would learn git or something. Anyway, here's something which should apply to SVN 2819, I hope. SHA1SUM:

[sword-devel] What is a mid-verse title?

2013-06-10 Thread David Haslam
Just to ensure there is no misunderstanding... Paratext permits but does not enforce sub-verses in the verse tag. The USFM Reference does not document this feature. We often see these explicit examples: \v 3-5a Some verse text for three and a half verses \v 5v-7 Some verse text for three and a

Re: [sword-devel] What is a mid-verse title?

2013-06-10 Thread David Haslam
Typo. Oops! (v is next to b on qwerty keyboards) I should have given this as the first example: \v 3-5a Some verse text for three and a half verses \v 5b-7 Some verse text for three and a half verses David -- View this message in context:

Re: [sword-devel] I implore you...

2013-06-10 Thread David Haslam
Yes - I totally agree with DM - thanks for the good reminder. David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/I-implore-you-tp4652437p4652478.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___

Re: [sword-devel] What is a mid-verse title?

2013-06-10 Thread DM Smith
Only responding to the last part below. On Jun 10, 2013, at 3:58 PM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: Just to ensure there is no misunderstanding... Paratext permits but does not enforce sub-verses in the verse tag. The USFM Reference does not document this feature. We often

Re: [sword-devel] I implore you...

2013-06-10 Thread DM Smith
Yay!!! In Him, DM On Jun 10, 2013, at 8:05 AM, Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.org wrote: Thanks Ben, This is exactly what I was looking for. Here's the link which forces the module to ESV: http://crosswire.org/study/passagestudy.jsp?mod=ESVkey=Song+of+Solomon+4%3A16#cv

Re: [sword-devel] What is a mid-verse title?

2013-06-10 Thread David Haslam
I see - so what really complicates things is the \p line in the example? Because in OSIS, *p* is not a milestoneable element. It allows for mixed (text and element) content. And your reply includes: There may or may not be spacing before or after the title. It is entirely unnecessary. Yet all

Re: [sword-devel] What is a mid-verse title?

2013-06-10 Thread David Haslam
DM wrote, There may or may not be spacing before or after the title. It is entirely unnecessary. Objection: A title as inline text wouldn't look right in a front-end. so did you mean additional spacing ? David -- View this message in context:

Re: [sword-devel] What is a mid-verse title?

2013-06-10 Thread DM Smith
On Jun 10, 2013, at 4:53 PM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: DM wrote, There may or may not be spacing before or after the title. It is entirely unnecessary. Objection: A title as inline text wouldn't look right in a front-end. so did you mean additional spacing ? There is a

[sword-devel] Posts to CrossWire's Facebook page

2013-06-10 Thread DM Smith
We've had quite a few postings in Farsi (I think). It appears that it is an attempt to do a link exchange. Can someone take a look who can read it and provide advice? https://www.facebook.com/crosswirebiblesociety/posts/321948371272135 Thanks. In Him, DM

Re: [sword-devel] What is a mid-verse title?

2013-06-10 Thread David Haslam
OK - so that must surely mean that *Xiphos 3.1.5* is malfunctional. It didn't provide the new line before a pre-verse title, so it cannot be treating a title as a block element. The title text had the right text style, but appeared at the end of the verse text. David -- View this message in

Re: [sword-devel] What is a mid-verse title?

2013-06-10 Thread DM Smith
On Jun 10, 2013, at 5:20 PM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: OK - so that must surely mean that *Xiphos 3.1.5* is malfunctional. I think they merely use the SWORD OSISxhtmlhref render filter. When I looked at SwordWeb today, it surrounded it with h3, which is an HTML block element.

Re: [sword-devel] I implore you...

2013-06-10 Thread David Haslam
Hang on a mo! Where is the mid-verse title in Song 4? I can't see one there. The only title that URL presented me is the one above verse 1. And why is the verse 1 tag widowed? NB. The URL didn't force navigation to the ESV at all, despite that module name being in the passed parameters. When

Re: [sword-devel] I implore you...

2013-06-10 Thread DM Smith
I saw that it didn't go to the ESV too. I had to pick it on the left. Maybe you have headings turned off. If on, you should see one immediately before verse 16 and one in it. In Him, DM On Jun 10, 2013, at 5:28 PM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: Hang on a mo! Where is

Re: [sword-devel] Posts to CrossWire's Facebook page

2013-06-10 Thread David Haslam
Though I can't read Farsi, the user's own page https://www.facebook.com/immanuel.persian has many posts with English pictorial content that show he's a keen advocate for studying the Bible. I had no good reason to hide his posts. Hope that helps. David -- View this message in context:

Re: [sword-devel] What is a mid-verse title?

2013-06-10 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Xiphos picks off pre-verse headers and outputs them wrapped with br/b%s/bbr/br/. That's all it does. It is the responsibility of ... something else ... to see to it that there is adequate whitespace being generated in the chapter prior to any header. Yes, there have always been some modules

Re: [sword-devel] Posts to CrossWire's Facebook page

2013-06-10 Thread DM Smith
Do the postings differ one from another? -- DM On Jun 10, 2013, at 5:34 PM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: Though I can't read Farsi, the user's own page https://www.facebook.com/immanuel.persian has many posts with English pictorial content that show he's a keen advocate for

Re: [sword-devel] I implore you...

2013-06-10 Thread David Haslam
Got it. *Together in the Garden of Love* but the URL behaviour is still baffling. I was using Firefox. Which browser were you using? David PS. Headings were already turned on. -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/I-implore-you-tp4652437p4652492.html Sent

Re: [sword-devel] I implore you...

2013-06-10 Thread DM Smith
I tried both Firefox and Safari. I don't think it has to do with the browser. -- DM On Jun 10, 2013, at 5:38 PM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: Got it. *Together in the Garden of Love* but the URL behaviour is still baffling. I was using Firefox. Which browser were you

Re: [sword-devel] Posts to CrossWire's Facebook page

2013-06-10 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Mon, 2013-06-10 at 17:04 -0400, DM Smith wrote: We've had quite a few postings in Farsi (I think). It appears that it is an attempt to do a link exchange. Can someone take a look who can read it and provide advice? https://www.facebook.com/crosswirebiblesociety/posts/321948371272135

Re: [sword-devel] Posts to CrossWire's Facebook page

2013-06-10 Thread David Haslam
Peter has commented with a polite please don't spam in Farsi. I don't think any further action is warranted, as we want to keep this brother on our side. David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/Posts-to-CrossWire-s-Facebook-page-tp4652484p4652494.html

Re: [sword-devel] Posts to CrossWire's Facebook page

2013-06-10 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Mon, 2013-06-10 at 14:34 -0700, David Haslam wrote: Though I can't read Farsi, the user's own page https://www.facebook.com/immanuel.persian has many posts with English pictorial content that show he's a keen advocate for studying the Bible. No reason to spam though. If you got admin

Re: [sword-devel] new build failure, -r2819

2013-06-10 Thread Greg Hellings
When Chris renamed osisruby to osisglosses it involved an update to Makefile.am. You will need to do a distclean and rerun your autogen. --Greg On Jun 10, 2013 9:02 PM, Karl Kleinpaste k...@kleinpaste.org wrote: Making all in lib make[1]: Entering directory `/home/karl/src/bible/sword/lib'