Re: [sword-devel] 1.7.2 release

2014-01-15 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Tue, 2014-01-14 at 19:07 -0800, Chris Little wrote: Maybe with v11n mappings it is the same situation? I would assume this requires a change to function signatures, so it's not going to appear in 1.7.x at all. I do not think that this is what Kostya asked for, just that his patch will

[sword-devel] Internal link via OSIS ref in GenBooks - bug?

2014-01-11 Thread Peter von Kaehne
I have created a new GenBook module, the Dark Night of the Soul by John of the Cross (It will be submitted in short order) In the process I found that links do not work as advertised in the wiki http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/OSIS_Genbooks#Internal_Links i.e. formed like a usual osisRef

[sword-devel] Locale - proposal

2014-01-03 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Would there be any objection if I do following: 1) Many of the description lines of our locale files have the language name in long form with an added (Unicode) e.g. ru_RU-utf8 reads as follows: [Meta] Name=ru_RU Description=Russian (Unicode) I see no good reason that the (Unicode) is there.

Re: [sword-devel] Locale - proposal

2014-01-03 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Fri, 2014-01-03 at 10:54 -0500, DM Smith wrote: BTW, I like how Java searches for localized resource files. The actual implementation is rather complex (because it searches multiple locations), but to simplify: Given a language code, a country code and a script code (script is new to Java

Re: [sword-devel] Locale - proposal

2014-01-03 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Thanks Troy, Both for bug-fix and for the advice. I will see what I can do wrt creation of adequate parents where these are needed. On Fri, 2014-01-03 at 12:16 -0700, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: Remember, we have MANY MORE language modules than we have locales for the engine. Wycliffe alone has

Re: [sword-devel] Locale - proposal

2014-01-03 Thread Peter von Kaehne
As you will see from sword-svn I have created the missing parent files etc. I left Chinese alone as I am a bit lost with that. Peter ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel

[sword-devel] LaTeX filters added

2013-12-30 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Hi Guys, Chris has kindly added a patch of mine to the svn HEAD which implements very basic LaTeX output filters. I will continue to work on that. The final aim is to have a way of a) being able to export LaTeX fragments from frontends into text processors (Xiphos e.g exports currently plain

Re: [sword-devel] Automagical repos

2013-12-21 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Sat, 2013-11-30 at 16:08 +, Peter von Kaehne wrote: Wouldn't it be nice have a new automagical repo set-up routine? I have added a Perl script just now to sword-tools, it is under sword-tools/repos. The script tests a remote FTP server for presence of mods.d directories which

Re: [sword-devel] Automagical repos

2013-12-21 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Sat, 2013-11-30 at 16:08 +, Peter von Kaehne wrote: Wouldn't it be nice have a new automagical repo set-up routine? I have added a Perl script just now to sword-tools, it is under sword-tools/repos. The script tests a remote FTP server for presence of mods.d directories which

Re: [sword-devel] FirefoxOS bible app

2013-12-18 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On 18/12/13 04:13, Stephan wrote: I just want to let you know that there is a basic demo of my FxOS app. It is not available in the Marketplace yet, but you can try it in a recent Firefox Browser here: http://zefanjas.de/biblezng/ Once it loaded all the files it works fully offline in

[sword-devel] Automagical repos

2013-11-30 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Right now someone who wants to add a new repo which is not on the repo master list, like e.g. a local server or something temporary etc has to go through a whole rigmarole of repo settings. And this makes use of non-standard repos quite hard, clumsy and error prone. At the same time, much of

[sword-devel] Segmentation fault - was Re: SWORD 1.7.0RC3

2013-09-09 Thread Peter von Kaehne
I hate to bring this up, now, when we really all want 1.7 out, but current svn head produces a segmentation fault in imp2gbs. The other utilities insofar as I tested them seem to be fine. Below the stacktrace. Tell me if you need more. I basically use usrinst.sh produced binaries, with the only

Re: [sword-devel] update handhelds page

2013-09-05 Thread Peter von Kaehne
So, symbian, windows and adroid are using established install paths acceptable to most ordinary users? iOS needs an rooted, jailbroken phone, but works afterwards fine? Is this correct? If so, I would suggest we re-write the page accordingly. I would not mention then iOS, but keep that for

[sword-devel] New filter suggestion

2013-08-18 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Sometimes I want to rapidly find a story or passage for which I have nothing but the vaguest recollection. Most modern Bible translations we have now use titles. I would like to be able to look only at the titles of passages, instead of any text, but maybe of more than one chapter. I know

Re: [sword-devel] Windows Utilities

2013-07-23 Thread Peter von Kaehne
This one is still open, even though it was created on 2012-01-09. http://www.crosswire.org/tracker/browse/MODTOOLS-31 I would consider this expected behaviour at that level, not a bug. These are linked verses and so each verse pointer will point at the same text. At the level of a

Re: [sword-devel] Windows Utilities

2013-07-23 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Von: David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com These utilities should give the required output when single verses are requested, but should be intelligent enough to avoid duplications when a passage is to be processed that includes the verse range (or part of one). Chris has answered already

Re: [sword-devel] Windows Utilities

2013-07-23 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Tue, 2013-07-23 at 10:36 -0700, David Haslam wrote: OK Peter, I read what you've said about http://www.crosswire.org/tracker/browse/MODTOOLS-31 At the time the bug was first encountered, it was with diatheke, and yes - this utility is important for me. So you are saying - but how

Re: [sword-devel] SWORD 1.7.0 final stretch

2013-07-16 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Von: Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.org Does anyone have Ubuntu installed and can try building the swig bindings to confirm or deny they have the same problem as Peter?  This is using autotools.  Simply compile and install sword, then cd to bindings/swig/package and follow the

Re: [sword-devel] Using osis2mod crash

2013-07-16 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Dear Marjan, The source code for osis2mod is here: http://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/utilities/osis2mod.cpp Any patches could be sent in via email to this mailing list (sword-devel@crosswire.org) Yours Peter Gesendet:Dienstag, 16. Juli 2013 um 12:46 Uhr Von:Marjan Savli

Re: [sword-devel] SWORD 1.7.0 final stretch

2013-07-16 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Bindings on Ubuntu 13.04 - i386 server install, clean VM apart from needing ldconfig been run and that ICU error message, both Perl and Python bindings seem to work. Peter ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org

Re: [sword-devel] SWORD 1.7.0 final stretch

2013-07-11 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Gesendet: Dienstag, 09. Juli 2013 um 08:53 Uhr Von: Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.org Peter, are you building with auto tools or cmake? I can look more into the autotools system if the problem is here. It doesn't seem to use pkgconfig to get libs and flags and I'd like to

Re: [sword-devel] SWORD 1.7.0 final stretch

2013-07-09 Thread Peter von Kaehne
  Von: Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com Peter, can you try and do a new install from the latest versions of SVN HEAD?   I have updated to SVN HEAD and I have prior to that looked through my $PATH to check for any old libsword remainders (I have done that now so often, I really see not

Re: [sword-devel] SWORD 1.7.0 final stretch

2013-07-09 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Sorry this did not get completed: Von: Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com Peter, can you try and do a new install from the latest versions of SVN HEAD?   I have updated to SVN HEAD and I have prior to that looked through my $PATH to check for any old libsword remainders (I have done that now

Re: [sword-devel] SWORD 1.7.0 final stretch

2013-07-09 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Von: John Zaitseff j.zaits...@zap.org.au Pardon my ignorance, but would the problem be that Sword.so is trying to pull in another shared library and cannot find it? Thanks! Can you try running ldd .../auto/Sword/Sword.so (replace the path, of course) and see what the output is?

Re: [sword-devel] SWORD 1.7.0 final stretch

2013-07-09 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Von: Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.org Peter, are you building with auto tools or cmake? I can look more into the autotools system if the problem is here. It doesn't seem to use pkgconfig to get libs and flags and I'd like to switch it to that. Just one suspect. auto tools.

Re: [sword-devel] SWORD 1.7.0 final stretch

2013-07-09 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Von: Dmitrijs Ledkovs dmitrij.led...@ubuntu.com And subsequently dropped, due to failure to compile with gcc-4.7: Just some speculation: http://www.swig.org/Doc2.0/SWIGDocumentation.html#Perl5_nn9 suggests that there is a problem with 64 bit compiled applications and Perl. Peter

Re: [sword-devel] SWORD 1.7.0 final stretch

2013-07-09 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Von: Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com In that case I might not be able to help you much. Can you try building them with CMake (you can see a sample invocation and build call in cmake/build-debug.sh that should be configured to build both Perl and Python bindings) and see if that

Re: [sword-devel] Repositories for free and open works

2013-07-09 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Wed, 2013-07-10 at 01:12 +0300, Jaak Ristioja wrote: If not, I suggest we create such repositories to ease distribution and mirroring of works. Considering that we have had a very extensive discussion only 6 months ago on the lack of _any_ desire to start or support mirroring I am not

Re: [sword-devel] SWORD 1.7.0 final stretch

2013-07-07 Thread Peter von Kaehne
...@crosswire.org wrote: OK guys, I have just updated the autotools stuff and the README files to build the swig bindings for both Perl and Python. Anyone know how to use SWORD with Perl or Python and can let me know if it actually works? Troy On 07/06/2013 03:04 PM, Peter von Kaehne wrote

Re: [sword-devel] SWORD 1.7.0 final stretch

2013-07-07 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Von: Jaak Ristioja j...@ristioja.ee I guess in the future it might be worth to consider developing and releasing the bindings for other languages separately from the core of Sword. While the bindings do not need by necessity an awful lot of ongoing development they should usually function

Re: [sword-devel] SWORD 1.7.0 final stretch

2013-06-23 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Wed, 2013-06-19 at 10:45 +0200, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: Peter, still binding troubles? Can you give me your exact commands executed and I'll try them here. Yes. Building works, using the Perl bindings though fails invariably. cd ~/Source/sword make clean make distclean svn up

Re: [sword-devel] Perl Bindings (was: I implore you...)

2013-06-11 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Thanks Greg, Unfortunately things still do not work out. On Mon, 2013-06-10 at 08:15 -0500, Greg Hellings wrote: Strange that we haven't needed to explicitly link in libstdc++ in the past. You can try adding, on line 27 of bindings/swig/perl/CMakeLists.txt and additional -lstdc++ inside

Re: [sword-devel] I implore you...

2013-06-10 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Dear Greg, Von: Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com On Jun 9, 2013 4:28 PM, Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.org wrote: Do all the bindings build ok?  It sounded like Peter still had some troubles. I can work with him to find the difference between his environment and mine and resolve

Re: [sword-devel] Posts to CrossWire's Facebook page

2013-06-10 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Mon, 2013-06-10 at 17:04 -0400, DM Smith wrote: We've had quite a few postings in Farsi (I think). It appears that it is an attempt to do a link exchange. Can someone take a look who can read it and provide advice? https://www.facebook.com/crosswirebiblesociety/posts/321948371272135

Re: [sword-devel] Posts to CrossWire's Facebook page

2013-06-10 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Mon, 2013-06-10 at 14:34 -0700, David Haslam wrote: Though I can't read Farsi, the user's own page https://www.facebook.com/immanuel.persian has many posts with English pictorial content that show he's a keen advocate for studying the Bible. No reason to spam though. If you got admin

Re: [sword-devel] I implore you...

2013-06-09 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On 6/9/2013 1:26 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: Do all the bindings build ok? It sounded like Peter still had some troubles. Unresolved. I am fairly clueless on all matters compiling, but it seems from googling that the problem is one of a linkage problem relating to c++ - if this helps

[sword-devel] Perl bindings failure

2013-06-04 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Dear all, The current iteration of perlbindings appears to have a problem. They compile fine, but on running give the below error message: Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.2/auto/Sword/Sword.so' for module Sword: /usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.2/auto/Sword/Sword.so: undefined symbol:

Re: [sword-devel] XHTML Rendering of OSIS Reference Doc - Whitespace

2013-05-20 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Sun, 2013-05-19 at 22:29 -0700, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: OK, so here's my latest cut at the whitespace issue. From the osisReference document here: http://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/tests/testsuite/osisReference.xml ... we now get this output from the osisxhtml filter set when

Re: [sword-devel] Synodal versification IBT modules?

2013-05-11 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Sat, 2013-05-11 at 17:40 -0400, DM Smith wrote: So, I concur with Chris L but for different reasons. Seconded. We had actually a discussion a while back re adding a scope entry to the conf file. Peter signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [sword-devel] XHTML Rendering of OSIS Reference Doc - Whitespace

2013-05-09 Thread Peter von Kaehne
    Von: Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.org As a first run, I'm going to shoot for this below. Will this make everyone happy regarding whitespace? Please ignore the poor table output-- that another issue. h3Old Testament/h3 h3THE FIRST BOOK OF MOSES CALLED GENESIS/h3

Re: [sword-devel] XHTML Rendering of OSIS Reference Doc - Whitespace

2013-05-08 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Wed, 2013-05-08 at 15:15 -0500, Greg Hellings wrote: Off the cuff here, it seems the issue is the difference in semantics of div between OSIS - where it marks a structural division within a text which can be of many different levels and layers and in XHTML where it represents a box of

Re: [sword-devel] Sword support of indents and line breaks

2013-04-14 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Sun, 2013-04-14 at 18:19 +0200, Matěj Cepl wrote: What should be the SEMANTIC name of the suggested new element? Please read my post and John's reply. Most of the occasions where the element is in use it would be sufficient for IBT's purposes to fix the whitespace output of the various

Re: [sword-devel] Sword support of indents and line breaks

2013-04-13 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Sat, 2013-04-13 at 10:42 +0600, John Austin wrote: I've worked with many, many SFM texts, and they often do not follow SFM rules or play nice in a variety of ways. And İ think this is the crux here. USFM attempts to separate content from presentation, albeit not as effectively and

Re: [sword-devel] Sword support of indents and line breaks

2013-04-13 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Can I try and summarise what I think is going on here? Basis of problem: 1) CrossWire has a whitespace/title/poetry problem which has been discussed at nauseam for many years. But it has neither been thoroughly resolved nor even isolated. Various parties have blamed each other - module makers,

Re: [sword-devel] Sword support of indents and line breaks

2013-04-12 Thread Peter von Kaehne
My only disagreement with Chris is around this sentence: (Again, I would argue that all paragraphs should be indented I think this is an Americanism. Here paragraphs are usually skipped. Gesendet:Freitag, 12. April 2013 um 11:26 Uhr Von:Chris Little chris...@crosswire.org An:SWORD

Re: [sword-devel] Sword support of indents and line breaks

2013-04-12 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Having said this, I think if there is a large number of existing modules which get insufficiently rendered and if the patch required is small, then I would suggest a two pronged approach: 1) accept the patch (us) 2) Do not accept anymore modules requiring this patch (IBT) 3) Once the last

[sword-devel] Perl bindings

2013-04-01 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Having recompiled the bindings on current svn head using cmake/build_release.sh I find I am unable to run these. I am getting following error message Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.2/auto/Sword/Sword.so' for module Sword: /usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.2/auto/Sword/Sword.so: undefined symbol:

Re: [sword-devel] Perl bindings

2013-04-01 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Mon, 2013-04-01 at 08:56 +0100, Peter von Kaehne wrote: I am getting following error message Can't load '/usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.2/auto/Sword/Sword.so' for module Sword: /usr/local/lib/perl/5.14.2/auto/Sword/Sword.so: undefined symbol: __cxaa_pure_virtual at /usr/lib/perl/5.14

Re: [sword-devel] Perl bindings

2013-04-01 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Mon, 2013-04-01 at 08:56 +0100, Peter von Kaehne wrote: Having recompiled the bindings on current svn head using cmake/build_release.sh I find I am unable to run these. rebuilding with cmake/build-debug.sh I get the same error. ___ sword-devel

Re: [sword-devel] Diatheke Patch (was Re: Next version)

2013-03-31 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Sun, 2013-03-31 at 09:21 -0500, Greg Hellings wrote: I don't know the limits of LaTeX and whether a custom exporter program is feasible, but is there any particular reason to not want changes to Diatheke? Only starting now to get to grips with latex, but FWIW, Latex allows embedding of

Re: [sword-devel] Location of prebuilt lucene indexes.

2013-01-23 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Von: Andrew Thule thules...@gmail.com The nice thing about when repo administrators do this, is when you get a module from that repo, you also automatically get the lucene index. The reason that this is not done are manifold - including that sword and jsword indices are different, that

Re: [sword-devel] Location of prebuilt lucene indexes.

2013-01-23 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Von: Andrew Thule thules...@gmail.com There are Pros and Cons either way (resource usage and download time being considerations) as you point out. There are no pros and only contras. And I certainly have not pointed out any pros. Nor has DM. Please stop using my name as supposedly in

Re: [sword-devel] Pre-verse div and headings

2013-01-21 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Von: DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org In the past, I've viewed the headings toggle as a toggle for non-canonical material. But the discussion on the other thread has me wondering whether intros (non-canonical) information is handled by it. That is exactly what I said - the headline toggle

Re: [sword-devel] XHTML Filterset

2013-01-19 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Sat, 2013-01-19 at 10:52 -0600, Greg Hellings wrote: On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 10:28 AM, Troy A. Griffitts span class=transChangeSupplied/span BT outputs the following (found on lines 383ff of src/backend/filters/osistohtml.cpp): span class=transchangespan

Re: [sword-devel] Method Name Normalization

2013-01-19 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Sat, 2013-01-19 at 17:13 +0100, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: Headings() has been renamed to setIntros(bool) and bool isIntros() Headings() -- used to turn on chapter, book, testament, and module introductions, has frequently been a point of confusion with the global option Headings -- used

Re: [sword-devel] Method Name Normalization

2013-01-19 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Sat, 2013-01-19 at 20:30 +0100, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote: Does this mean that headings and intros are now formally separated? They always have been. They have never had anything to do with each other. On Xiphos these are the same. Turn on headings

Re: [sword-devel] Greek l10n on launhcpad

2013-01-15 Thread Peter von Kaehne
From: Klearchos-Angelos Gkountras kleag...@gmail.com I want to contribute on Greek ( my native language) into xiphos and I can't do that , I don't want to download the .po file and but via launchpad My LP account is https://launchpad.net/~jemadux How to contribute ? Von:

Re: [sword-devel] Finding out copyright programatically

2013-01-07 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Von: Chris Burrell ch...@burrell.me.uk Is there appetite for such support in the sword modules? I do think there is value in this for supporting a Web API. You could host any number of modules with many different licenses and many different API users could have a reasonably automatic way

Re: [sword-devel] Exclusive Rights Granting Crosswire License to Distribute

2013-01-07 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Von: Andrew Thule thules...@gmail.com Sorry, but Crosswire has an obligation (under Copyright law) as distributor to share with its users the terms of each Copyright owner's license. It does. As per module conf entry re DistributionLicense. It tells you everything you must know. If you

Re: [sword-devel] Exclusive Rights Granting Crosswire License to Distribute

2013-01-07 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Von: Andrew Thule thules...@gmail.com It may be the case that the ISV foundations license to Crosswire is not as restritive as Peter and Chris claimed and my action of sharing a compile module on a separate server didn't in fact breach anything. Only by inspecting Crosswire's license

Re: [sword-devel] local cache of module text

2013-01-07 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Von: Daniel Hughes tramps...@gmail.com Am I allowed to pull the text out of the sword module once it is installed (using the sword libs) and put it in my local sqlite database. Not a lawyer, so my advice might be of limited value. Many of our modules are public domain and essentially you

Re: [sword-devel] Updating copyrighted modules

2013-01-06 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Von: Manfred Bergmann manfred.bergm...@me.com Am 06.01.2013 um 09:50 schrieb Andrew Thule thules...@gmail.com: The site makes it seem like anyone can contribute to module creation, modification. Anyone can contribute to module creation. Thanks, Manfred. Indeed, anyone can. We have

Re: [sword-devel] Updating copyrighted modules

2013-01-06 Thread Peter von Kaehne
is the person maintaining the module. Chris On 6 Jan 2013 11:09, Peter von Kaehne ref...@gmx.net wrote: Von: Manfred Bergmann manfred.bergm...@me.com Am 06.01.2013 um 09:50 schrieb Andrew Thule thules...@gmail.com: The site makes it seem like anyone can contribute

Re: [sword-devel] Finding out copyright programatically

2013-01-06 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Von: Chris Burrell ch...@burrell.me.uk Can I suggest adding something in the module configuration and/or sword/jsword backends that could indicate what kind of copyright we're dealing with: PUBLIC_DOMAIN, COPYRIGHT, OTHER, etc. As such this is simply a call to see some conf entry, is it

Re: [sword-devel] Finding out copyright programatically

2013-01-06 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Von: Chris Burrell ch...@burrell.me.uk I guess the next question, is whether your four categories are comprehensive? We would perhaps want to include another bit to indicate that there are special non-parseable conditions, so as to indicate to a developer that he'll have to work out what it

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire mirroring

2013-01-05 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Sat, 2013-01-05 at 01:12 -0500, Andrew Thule wrote: Peter, please temper your judgement with mercy. Your claims here are neither correct nor fair. I have sent you a lengthy private reply which deals in detail with the claims that your repos are filtering out the restricted modules. Suffice

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire mirroring

2013-01-04 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Fri, 2013-01-04 at 16:49 -0500, Andrew Thule wrote: That said, whatever you decided to do with respect to (re)distribution rights will be honoured, but it needs to be clearly communicated. If modules are not to be redistributed, impose that constraint and be transparent about it. It is

Re: [sword-devel] ISV status?

2013-01-03 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On 03/01/13 20:46, Andrew Thule wrote: If there are prohibitions against distributions of newer revisions of the text, this needs to be documented somewhere; for how else will volunteers know they are restricted to working with particular versions of text? You are no CrossWire volunteer.

Re: [sword-devel] ISV status?

2013-01-03 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Thu, 2013-01-03 at 18:51 -0500, Andrew Thule wrote: Have you read [James 2:13]? It's not clear why the hostility, but I'm trying to contribute here (albeit with lots of resistance). Resistance comes about when someone with a severe case of stubbornness ignores being told that a

Re: [sword-devel] Beta modules question

2013-01-02 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On 02/01/13 10:17, David Haslam wrote: Would it not be feasible to correct the *Barnes* commentary module by using mod2imp, edit the output IMP file, and then rebuild using imp2vs ? I have not tried it, but I would think this might massively increase the size of a module with verse ranges

Re: [sword-devel] SFTP Support

2012-12-18 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Hi Greg, On Tue, 2012-12-18 at 07:47 -0600, Greg Hellings wrote: From the other thread, Troy writes: I have been following the discussion on the SFTP patch and hadn't seen it come to a conclusion yet regarding what might be necessary to detect SSL support in cURL. I don't feel I've been

Re: [sword-devel] SFTP Support

2012-12-18 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Tue, 2012-12-18 at 10:40 -0600, Greg Hellings wrote: SFTPSource=Home|domain.com|/home/username/.sword|username|password|20121203172011 Ok, this works perfectly I also tried downloading a module via Xiphos - which works fine too. So, in summary - if Debian and Ubuntu would allow ssh on

Re: [sword-devel] SFTP Support

2012-12-04 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On 04/12/12 05:28, David Judah's Shadow Blue wrote: Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com wrote: The attached patch will introduce support for SFTPSource transports in the SWORD engine, allowing a user to access remote repositories over SFTP (which is enabled by default when a

Re: [sword-devel] SFTP Support

2012-12-04 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On 04/12/12 16:43, Greg Hellings wrote: or your distro does not include those as build-time dependencies and you should file a packaging bug with your distribution. Indeed. But not a bug, but a conscious decision! https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/curl/+bug/175891 This is so

Re: [sword-devel] SFTP Support

2012-12-04 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On 04/12/12 17:04, Peter von Kaehne wrote: In essence it does not work on Ubuntu (and maybe Debian) and it will not work in future - unless one builts their own libcurl. Peter I am trying this right now out. But it is a major undertaking to build - takes a long time so far on a perfectly well

Re: [sword-devel] Search bug New Arabic Bible, Not Shaped SVD Version

2012-11-27 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Guys, are you sure this is a problem with Clucene and not just with the strip filter? Has anyone tried out the patch? It was sent in November last year IIRC Peter Original-Nachricht Datum: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 23:19:20 -0600 Von: Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com An: SWORD

Re: [sword-devel] Search bug New Arabic Bible, Not Shaped SVD Version

2012-11-26 Thread Peter von Kaehne
If it is the diacritics, then the solution is a patch which was submitted (but probably never applied) a year or so ago. Peter Original-Nachricht Datum: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 11:33:06 +0200 Von: pola ashraf 5...@hotmail.com An: SWORD Developers\' Collaboration Forum

Re: [sword-devel] Search bug New Arabic Bible, Not Shaped SVD Version

2012-11-26 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Von: David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com So a similar patch would be necessary in principle to JSword ??? No. If And Bible does not have a problem, then Jsword does its job correctly. Peter ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org

Re: [sword-devel] New Arabic Sword Commentaries

2012-11-24 Thread Peter von Kaehne
The problem is not with And Bible but with Android - before 4.0, unless one had an Arabic patched Android installation Arabic script got displayed LtoR (before 2.3) or displayed unligated (2.3) Since 4.0 it is no problem anymore Peter Original-Nachricht Datum: Sat, 24 Nov

Re: [sword-devel] New Arabic Sword Commentaries

2012-11-22 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Hi Pola I presume this are Father Malaty's commentaries, which we discussed a while back? This is brilliant news! If so, USFM facilitated OSIS conversion is not a good way as the commentaries are not verse by verse but have many overarching bits and then verse by verse material too. These can

Re: [sword-devel] DSS (Biblical Dead Sea Scrolls based upon DJD translations)

2012-11-13 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On 13/11/12 18:40, Andrew Thule wrote: Furthermore, we've managed to sort out that there is a difference between protections on cultural works (often produced for commercial advantage) and scholarly work, produced to expand knowledge. Andrew, I find this all rather disturbing. 1) No one of

[sword-devel] Pocketsword - was Re: DSS (Biblical Dead Sea Scrolls based upon DJD translations)

2012-11-13 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On 13/11/12 21:08, Nic Carter wrote: ps: for those still reading along, today is my 2nd last day of work for my current employer so I get to actually do some programming for CrossWire again soon! :) expect a release soon for everyone's favourite iOS app that supports the SWORD format ;) Great

Re: [sword-devel] DSS (Biblical Dead Sea Scrolls based upon DJD translations)

2012-11-12 Thread Peter von Kaehne
This is a good summary of how we conduct ourselves in general and how we want to conduct ourselves. Thanks Nic. Peter On 11/11/12 23:13, niccarter wrote: Disclaimer: I am not an expert in US law to any degree. I just want to pick up on one thing Greg mentioned: Those works ARE subject to

Re: [sword-devel] DSS (Biblical Dead Sea Scrolls based upon DJD translations)

2012-11-10 Thread Peter von Kaehne
I would suggest that any other post than I am sorry, you are right and I was wrong. I have taken the site down will be incontrovertible proof that the OP is a troll. Peter Original-Nachricht Datum: Sat, 10 Nov 2012 14:55:17 -0700 Von: jhphx jh...@cox.net An: SWORD

Re: [sword-devel] usfx

2012-11-08 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Von: Chris Burrell ch...@burrell.me.uk Thanks for all the info. On the last point, I did mean read directly from USFM. I don't know the format well-enough, but presumably if other software uses it, then maybe we could have a go at displaying the best we can... I do not think this would be

Re: [sword-devel] usfx

2012-11-08 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Hi Chris, Von: Chris Burrell ch...@burrell.me.uk I've found some instructions on transforming usfm/x to osis on the wiki but was wondering how difficult it would be to automate a lot of it? Several of us have been starting to think and experiment with this too. Basically it is easy to

Re: [sword-devel] DSS (Biblical Dead Sea Scrolls based upon DJD translations)

2012-11-08 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Andrew, I have no intention to make this a bun fight. Both of us have better things to do. For short: To have the DSS translations in our repos is an honourable aim. It fits with much else we try to achieve. To have these translations distributed without express permission or licence by the

Re: [sword-devel] DSS (Biblical Dead Sea Scrolls based upon DJD translations)

2012-11-07 Thread Peter von Kaehne
What is the copyright situation of this module? Peter Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 7 Nov 2012 01:22:31 -0500 Von: Andrew Thule thules...@gmail.com An: SWORD Developers\' Collaboration Forum sword-devel@crosswire.org Betreff: [sword-devel] DSS (Biblical Dead Sea Scrolls

Re: [sword-devel] DSS (Biblical Dead Sea Scrolls based upon DJD translations)

2012-11-07 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On 07/11/12 15:52, Andrew Thule wrote: It is a derivative work from academic translations, but for now treat as copyrighted, until I resolve the license issue. With the exception of Elisha Qimron's translations (by the Israeli Supreme Court no less), all other DSS translations are treated as

Re: [sword-devel] DSS (Biblical Dead Sea Scrolls based upon DJD translations)

2012-11-07 Thread Peter von Kaehne
to do anything. My offer is open to the community. With the greatest respect. ~A On Wednesday, November 7, 2012, Peter von Kaehne wrote: On 07/11/12 15:52, Andrew Thule wrote: It is a derivative work from academic translations, but for now treat as copyrighted, until I resolve

[sword-devel] Mailing list archives

2012-10-20 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Question: dt some mistake I lost my mailing list archives. I really do not want to use the web interface of mailman (or nabble) for old stuff. Nor do I want to download millions of single month tar.gz packages. Is there a way to download the complete archives of a single list? I tried scp'ing

Re: [sword-devel] usfm2osis.py and crossreferences

2012-10-13 Thread Peter von Kaehne
\' Collaboration Forum sword-devel@crosswire.org Betreff: Re: [sword-devel] usfm2osis.py and crossreferences On 10/12/2012 10:53 PM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: Currently usfm2osis.py does not produce complete cross references. a) It translates the in the \xo tag contained origin reference

Re: [sword-devel] usfm2osis.py and tag \cp

2012-10-12 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Von: Chris Little chris...@crosswire.org I hope I've fixed this now. (I haven't tested that it functions correctly, but the error was fairly obvious from the traceback below.) Hi Chris, Sorry, while the crash has gone, the function is not correct - at all. \cp is meant to give a printed

Re: [sword-devel] usfm2osis.py and tag \cp

2012-10-12 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Von: Chris Little chris...@crosswire.org \cp (like \vp) is a workaround for a limitation in Paratext. Thanks, this was me being confused. You should look into \ca or \cl as alternatives. Thanks. \cl is probably what I looked for. WIll see. Thanks, even more so, for fixing the bug/crash!

[sword-devel] usfm2osis.py and crossreferences

2012-10-12 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Currently usfm2osis.py does not produce complete cross references. a) It translates the in the \xo tag contained origin reference as a reference type=annotateRef The probably better way in OSIS would be to tack the origin ref as an osisRef argument into the surrounding note tag. Having said

[sword-devel] usfm2osis.py and tag \cp

2012-10-11 Thread Peter von Kaehne
The USFM \cp tag (used for chapter markers different from those of the used versification) crashes usfm2osis.py reliably. The programme needs a Ctrl-C interrupt to get out of its state. Following minimal USFM code creates below attached error message. \id EST \h ESTER \c 1 \cp A \s En

Re: [sword-devel] Insidious mismatched tag errors: recommendations

2012-09-20 Thread Peter von Kaehne
I seldomly create OSIS from scratch, but usually create an USFM text, which I then import with known tools. This means that all corrections happen not in OSIS, which indeed can become a bit of a nightmare, but in USFM, which is easy and nice. Most Bible translation projects also appreciate

Re: [sword-devel] The poor man's interlinear

2012-09-17 Thread Peter von Kaehne
While I will never wish to stop anyone from creating themselves more work than necessary (as long as they do not take my taxes or tithes) I remain in awe over the work created here and described as necessary, yet being entirely unnecessary. And it prejudices me heavily against working ever with

Re: [sword-devel] Locale differences

2012-09-16 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On 16/09/12 20:40, Andrew Thule wrote: If so, I understand the practicality, but its too bad all of the .conf stuff couldn't be contained in the module so we could do away with having to generate .conf files apart from the modules' osis (or if its a resource issue, make it so the .confs could

Re: [sword-devel] Locale differences

2012-09-14 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Just CrossWire Main. Attic might have plenty more, but these are irrelevant for the future. And Beta and Av11n hopefully contain none. Chris has said ages ago, he will only accept OSIS bibles. And generally the standard of texts has gone up over the years. Peter Original-Nachricht

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