Re: [sword-devel] OSIS and intros

2025-07-13 Thread Michael H
RE: Book intros. The best way I know of to include Book level intro material into Sword data structure is to make it a note on Verse 1. This will allow it to appear visible to the end user without disrupting scripture display in parallel too much, and most/all front ends will provide annotation tex

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS and intros

2025-07-13 Thread brickviking
I, like others, was also hoping for a way to put book introductions into some bible format for translation into mod format. So far I've come up relatively empty, and it seems reasonably obvious that at least OSIS doesn't provide for book-level introductions, let alone chapter-level, without some st

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS and intros

2025-07-11 Thread pinoaffe
DM Smith writes: > The issue with heuristics is that they essentially enforce > assumptions, which may very well be wrong. I think a heuristic along the line of "Does this book group contain only new testament books and are all new testament books that are present in this bible contained in this

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS and intros

2025-07-11 Thread DM Smith
> On Jul 11, 2025, at 4:15 PM, pinoaffe wrote: > > Karl Kleinpaste writes: >> On 7/10/25 6:20 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: >>> In USFM, any introductory material for the New Testament would be >>> actually included in the beginning of Matthew, before the chapter 1 >>> marker. Introduc

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS and intros

2025-07-11 Thread pinoaffe
Karl Kleinpaste writes: > On 7/10/25 6:20 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: >> In USFM, any introductory material for the New Testament would be >> actually included in the beginning of Matthew, before the chapter 1 >> marker. Introductory material for the Old Testament would be in >> Gene

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS and intros

2025-07-11 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
I just noticed that bsb.conf includes Feature=NoParagraphs. This is an error; the module has paragraph formatting. But Xiphos selects verse-per-line display by default in the presence of Feature=NoParagraphs. This can be turned off.___ sword-devel mai

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS and intros

2025-07-11 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 7/11/25 10:28 AM, Timothy Allen wrote: The BSB module begins with some introductory text about the translation. To view it, you typically have to go to Genesis 1:1, and then scroll up. That content exists as intro material to Genesis -- that's not a module or testament introduction. Xiphos

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS and intros

2025-07-11 Thread Timothy Allen
On 11/7/25 21:04, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: On 7/10/25 6:20 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: In USFM, any introductory material for the New Testament would be actually included in the beginning of Matthew, before the chapter 1 marker. Introductory material for the Old Testament would be in G

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS and intros

2025-07-11 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 7/10/25 6:20 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: In USFM, any introductory material for the New Testament would be actually included in the beginning of Matthew, before the chapter 1 marker. Introductory material for the Old Testament would be in Genesis, or could be in the "INT" or "PRE"

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS and intros

2025-07-10 Thread Kahunapule Michael Johnson
On 7/10/25 04:21, DM Smith wrote: The module team has a usfm2osis.py to convert USFM to OSIS. Michael also has one. The nature of USFM is that it’s goal is presentation not OSIS’s nature of semantic markup. I don’t know how that transformation handles intro material. I’m pretty sure neither ha

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS and intros

2025-07-10 Thread DM Smith
> On Jul 10, 2025, at 2:28 AM, pinoaffe wrote: > > DM Smith writes: >> OSIS recommends to surround a collection of >> books. But osis2mod does not require this. (Should it? Should it make >> any assumptions about a book group?) > bookgroups can be nested within bookgroups and can refer to any

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS and intros

2025-07-09 Thread pinoaffe
DM Smith writes: > OSIS recommends to surround a collection of > books. But osis2mod does not require this. (Should it? Should it make > any assumptions about a book group?) bookgroups can be nested within bookgroups and can refer to any grouping a specific bible might want to include, e.g. "Prop

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS and intros

2025-07-09 Thread DM Smith
> On Jul 9, 2025, at 10:35 AM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > > On 7/9/25 10:01 AM, DM Smith wrote: >> These have to be enable with setIntros(true). I’m not sure which frontends >> support these intros. > > Xiphos does, but for only book and chapter, obtained as 0:0 and [1-n]:0. > > It has no awar

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS and intros

2025-07-09 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
On 7/9/25 10:01 AM, DM Smith wrote: These have to be enable with setIntros(true). I’m not sure which frontends support these intros. Xiphos does, but for only book and chapter, obtained as 0:0 and [1-n]:0. It has no awareness of module or testament intros. How are these accessed in terms of

[sword-devel] OSIS and intros

2025-07-09 Thread DM Smith
There is a bug in osis2mod that places new testament introductory material at the end of Malachi rather than in the NT. There are at least 4 Jira issues on this. I’m open to suggestions. Especially from the modules team. Right now osis2mod does not handle module, OT and NT introductory material