Re: [sword-devel] OpenScriptureFormats.org

2008-05-21 Thread jhphx
A key term in that section is interoperability. If you make so that the original program is no longer needed is that interoperability? I am going to guess it implies the original program should at least be installed. Also consider "to the extent that doing so does not constitute infringement un

Re: [sword-devel] OpenScriptureFormats.org

2008-05-21 Thread Leandro DUTRA
2008/5/21 Daniel Holmlund <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I was not advocating the reverse engineering of proprietary Bible publishing > formats, but simply aggregating information that is available on different > formats (both open and proprietary). I'm a missionary in France and I just > finished helpi

Re: [sword-devel] OpenScriptureFormats.org

2008-05-21 Thread Daniel Holmlund
As far as the questions of the legality in the USA of reverse engineering file formats, the DMCA speaks for itself. These quotations are taken from *Sec. 1201. Circumvention of copyright protection systems (f)* and can be found at Harvard Law .

Re: [sword-devel] OpenScriptureFormats.org

2008-05-21 Thread Daniel Holmlund
Hi Jonathon, I was not advocating the reverse engineering of proprietary Bible publishing formats, but simply aggregating information that is available on different formats (both open and proprietary). I'm a missionary in France and I just finished helping the French Bible Society update their Bi

Re: [sword-devel] OpenScriptureFormats.org

2008-05-20 Thread jhphx
> Are these EULAs valid? When this become a matter of reverse engineering the DCMA also needs to be considered if the information is protected by something like encryption. Jerry ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.cr

Re: [sword-devel] OpenScriptureFormats.org

2008-05-20 Thread Daniel Owens
I think the idea is to focus on open formats, not proprietary ones, which removes the legal issues. There might be a place to document a broader list of formats, including proprietary ones, but not go into detail (much like the Crosswire wiki already does). The site may largely include links to

Re: [sword-devel] OpenScriptureFormats.org

2008-05-20 Thread Chris Little
Bear in mind that this is the work of an individual, with a fairly specific purpose in mind. And the page is also a bit out of date and fairly inaccurate with respect to OSIS. The fact that Paratext figures into the evaluation makes fairly clear that this is a discussion specifically intended f

Re: [sword-devel] OpenScriptureFormats.org

2008-05-20 Thread jonathon
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 1:07 PM, David Haslam wrote: > "the Ninth district of the US". Thanks. The District of the Ninth Federal Court. Major courts are located in: * San Francisco, CA * Pasadena, CA * Portland, OR * Seattle-Park Place, WA The court itself covers the following states: * Alaska;

Re: [sword-devel] OpenScriptureFormats.org

2008-05-20 Thread David Haslam
For those of us unfamiliar with USA legal geography, please explain what is "the Ninth district of the US". Thanks. Jonathon Blake wrote: > > On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Leandro DUTRA wrote: > >> Are these EULAs valid? > > In the Ninth district of the US, probably so. > In the rest of

Re: [sword-devel] OpenScriptureFormats.org

2008-05-20 Thread David Haslam
Hi Daniel, The following link is of interest and relevance. http://ebible.org/usfx/Bible-encoding.htm Bible File Encoding for Bible Translators, Publishers, and Software Developers By Kahunapule Michael Johnson. It is a good one-stop education about the modern Tower of Babel. Not a wiki though

Re: [sword-devel] OpenScriptureFormats.org

2008-05-20 Thread jonathon
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Leandro DUTRA wrote: > Are these EULAs valid? In the Ninth district of the US, probably so. In the rest of the US, perhaps. In the rest of the world, probably not. In the EEC, not at all. xan jonathon ___ sword-devel

Re: [sword-devel] OpenScriptureFormats.org

2008-05-20 Thread Leandro DUTRA
2008/5/20 jonathon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > The most significant being that most formats are covered by a EULA > that prohibits reverse engineering. Are these EULAs valid? -- skype:leandro.gfc.dutra?chat Yahoo!: ymsgr:sendIM?lgcdutra +55 (11) 3040 7300 r155 gTalk: xmpp:[EMAIL PROTECTED] +55 (11)

Re: [sword-devel] OpenScriptureFormats.org

2008-05-20 Thread jonathon
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 7:41 AM, Daniel Holmlund wrote: > 1. Is there anybody else interested in this? I like the idea of a one stop site for all of the various Bible publishing formats. However, I do see some practical issues. The most significant being that most formats are covered by a EULA t

[sword-devel] OpenScriptureFormats.org

2008-05-20 Thread Daniel Holmlund
I was thinking that it would be great if there was a wiki style one stop website where dvelopers and publishers could find information about different types of Bible publishing formats. Further, it could have links to different software projects that deal with e-Bible publishing. Two questions: 1