Re: [sword-devel] Strong tagging and Septuagint

2013-02-12 Thread Chris Burrell
So any chance we can include something? I really need this, and I don't see why the conf files isn't the ideal place to put this? On 8 February 2013 20:40, Chris Burrell ch...@burrell.me.uk wrote: Hi Because I provide Interlinears, I need to be able to tell the user that for the combination

Re: [sword-devel] Strong tagging and Septuagint

2013-02-12 Thread David Haslam
Regarding proposed new module configuration properties xulsword http://code.google.com/p/xulsword/ already makes use of a few extra properties in the conf files for modules made for that front-end. See note 2 in http://crosswire.org/wiki/Module_Repositories#Institute_for_Bible_Translation

Re: [sword-devel] Strong tagging and Septuagint

2013-02-12 Thread Chris Burrell
Yes, but in this case, these are existing modules used with a new front-end (with I'm guessing functionality that isn't yet available in existing front-ends), hence the issue. Chris On 12 February 2013 14:52, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: Regarding proposed new module

Re: [sword-devel] Strong tagging and Septuagint

2013-02-12 Thread David Haslam
Maybe we should consider the concept of ancillary configuration files??? i.e. Which augment what's in the module.conf file, and which are specific to one or more front-end apps. And which are downloaded from the front-end developer's allocated space in the crosswire server. If we had a file

Re: [sword-devel] Strong tagging and Septuagint

2013-02-12 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Chris, I understand the possible need for general facility, to indicate features and this is why we have the Feature=StrongsNumbers tag. I also understand why this isn't straight forward the LXX. But, I would say that this is an exception and one that doesn't warrant adding a new feature

Re: [sword-devel] Strong tagging and Septuagint

2013-02-08 Thread Chris Burrell
Hi I haven't had any responses to this. I'm considering hard-coding the values in STEP to ensure I'm not trying to match tagging across versions that have a different type of mark-up. Let me know if there is appetite for doing this in a slightly more formal way? i.e. the Sword conf files should

Re: [sword-devel] Strong tagging and Septuagint

2013-02-08 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
I believe we preface strongs numbers with G or H to differentiate. Chris Burrell ch...@burrell.me.uk wrote: Hi I haven't had any responses to this. I'm considering hard-coding the values in STEP to ensure I'm not trying to match tagging across versions that have a different type of mark-up.

Re: [sword-devel] Strong tagging and Septuagint

2013-02-08 Thread Chris Burrell
Indeed we do, but that implies one has to read the module content to work out which set of Strongs is used. Ideally you should be able to tell without consulting the book contents. For example, I display which features are available to the user while they pick the version from a dropdown. Chris

Re: [sword-devel] Strong tagging and Septuagint

2013-02-08 Thread David Haslam
Chris makes an important point. A few weeks ago, it was discovered that our Finnish modules contain tags that our software interpreted as linguistic markup, but that were an artifact from something else. See http://www.crosswire.org/tracker/browse/MOD-230 David -- View this message in

Re: [sword-devel] Strong tagging and Septuagint

2013-02-08 Thread Chris Burrell
Indeed, although looking at the MOD-230, this would only help fix your issue if the Finish module doesn't also contain strong numbers! Chris On 8 February 2013 13:13, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: Chris makes an important point. A few weeks ago, it was discovered that our

Re: [sword-devel] Strong tagging and Septuagint

2013-02-08 Thread DM Smith
In SWORD the various GlobalOptionFilter values indicate to the SWORD engine which pieces of code (filters) to enable. Same with some other entries in the conf. In JSword, we don't have a filter architecture. We convert everything from the source type (ThML, Plaintext, GBF, ...) to OSIS. Then

Re: [sword-devel] Strong tagging and Septuagint

2013-02-08 Thread Chris Burrell
Thanks, that does clarify. Still the problem remains in that we want to be able to distinguish between different types of tagging (greek, hebrew, extended greek) by questioning the module. Does the conf file not also define supported features? Can we not make it so? Or have a flag in there to

Re: [sword-devel] Strong tagging and Septuagint

2013-02-08 Thread DM Smith
For OSIS, the only values to indicate Strong's Numbers are: GlobalOptionFilter=OSISStrongs and Feature=StrongsNumbers There is nothing defined to further distinguish. BTW, what is extended Greek? Are you referring to the TVM codes that look like Strong's Number with a G prefix? I guess what we

Re: [sword-devel] Strong tagging and Septuagint

2013-02-08 Thread Chris Burrell
Hi Because I provide Interlinears, I need to be able to tell the user that for the combination of LXX and KJV you are unable to see the interlinears in the OT. The reason being, KJV uses H and LXX uses G. If you're looking at several texts in interlinears, it simply looks like there is a

[sword-devel] Strong tagging and Septuagint

2012-11-27 Thread Chris Burrell
Hi all I have a question about the strong tagging. Some of our modules have strong tagging for the old testament, but instead of tagging the Hebrew it tags the Hebrew. Is there any easy way to know whether a module supports a Old Testament Septuagint tagging vs a Hebrew tagging. I'm