Re: [sword-devel] Wiki front end comparison

2009-03-03 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Matthew Talbert wrote: I could, but I think it is a low priority for me and for the Xiphos folk. (Who may not want to know if it works there ;) If it works, would that mean we would have to support it? (desperately praying it won't!!) I have made for the wiki an executive decision and a

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki front end comparison

2009-03-02 Thread Barry Drake
Hi Peter . Peter von Kaehne wrote: why are you concerned? Fix it please. Please accept my apologies. I didn't mean to criticise, just to make observations. I haven't yet looked at altering the Wiki, and just now, I'm very pushed for time. But yes - I do realise that this is not in its

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki front end comparison

2009-03-02 Thread Eeli Kaikkonen
Quoting Barry Drake bdr...@crosswire.org: I suggest an additional column (or more). 'Footnote Handling' marked as 'complete' or 'limited' (or somesuch). Another point that we might want to consider is navigation on a scale of 0 to 5. BibleCS might be around 2, and Xiphos around 5 and

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki front end comparison

2009-03-02 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Eeli Kaikkonen wrote: Quoting Barry Drake bdr...@crosswire.org: I suggest an additional column (or more). 'Footnote Handling' marked as 'complete' or 'limited' (or somesuch). Another point that we might want to consider is navigation on a scale of 0 to 5. BibleCS might be around 2, and

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki front end comparison

2009-03-02 Thread DM Smith
On Mar 2, 2009, at 8:43 AM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: Putting data into rows and frontends into columns is so obvious that I feel now stupid. It is probably too late to fix this for the wiki - unless you, Eeli, volunteer - the amount has become too much. I'll see about doing this. -- DM

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki front end comparison

2009-03-02 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
Barry Drake bdr...@crosswire.org writes: BibleCS limits footnotes to 1221 characters. Some of our footnotes are at least double that; I've no idea how big the longest is. Eccl 1:1#1, 6559 characters as rendered in Xiphos; original source markup, somewhat larger.

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki front end comparison

2009-03-02 Thread Barry Drake
Hi Peter .. Peter von Kaehne wrote: Wrt rating of interfaces - sorry, Barry I really can not see how we can put this anywhere without the most almighty flame war. I agree with you. In this instance, I was just thinking back to a number of feature requests aimed at BibleCS because

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki front end comparison

2009-03-02 Thread DM Smith
DM Smith wrote: On Mar 2, 2009, at 8:43 AM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: Putting data into rows and frontends into columns is so obvious that I feel now stupid. It is probably too late to fix this for the wiki - unless you, Eeli, volunteer - the amount has become too much. I'll see about doing

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki front end comparison

2009-03-02 Thread Brian Fernandes
DM, Just a few notes on the layout; these changes look great, and the table is definitely easier to read. I do agree that the columns are too narrow. I was recently looking at this wiki page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_browsers The comparison tables on this page look

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki front end comparison

2009-03-02 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Brian Fernandes wrote: DM, Just a few notes on the layout; these changes look great, and the table is definitely easier to read. I do agree that the columns are too narrow. Seconded. I was recently looking at this wiki page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_browsers The

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki front end comparison

2009-03-02 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Brian Fernandes wrote: Unfortunately I could not figure out how to easily import the {{yes}} / {{no}} templates into our Wiki, perhaps best left to someone with more experience. I can try again later tomorrow if nobody gets to it by then - if you think this is a good idea. I have created a

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki front end comparison

2009-03-02 Thread Chris Little
Peter von Kaehne wrote: The OS support I would simply do as previous - one row only, but maybe with icons to make faster to read. Win95+ or WinXP+ is adequate instead of a whole list of variants (unless newer Wins do not work). This may seem a minor matter, but I'm not sure whether the

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki front end comparison

2009-03-02 Thread DM Smith
Chris Little wrote: Peter von Kaehne wrote: The OS support I would simply do as previous - one row only, but maybe with icons to make faster to read. Win95+ or WinXP+ is adequate instead of a whole list of variants (unless newer Wins do not work). This may seem a minor matter, but I'm not

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki front end comparison

2009-03-02 Thread DM Smith
Peter von Kaehne wrote: Brian Fernandes wrote: Unfortunately I could not figure out how to easily import the {{yes}} / {{no}} templates into our Wiki, perhaps best left to someone with more experience. I can try again later tomorrow if nobody gets to it by then - if you think this is a good

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki front end comparison

2009-03-02 Thread Dan Blake
The table is taking shape nicely. Don't feel like you need to use the graphics just cause they are there. Nice work everyone. Daniel Blake Peter von Kaehne wrote: Brian Fernandes wrote: Unfortunately I could not figure out how to easily import the {{yes}} / {{no}} templates into our

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki front end comparison

2009-03-02 Thread DM Smith
On Mar 2, 2009, at 5:58 PM, DM Smith wrote: With sorting the page is too wide to print in landscape without truncation. Never mind. It shrinks nicely. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki front end comparison

2009-03-02 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Chris Little wrote: Peter von Kaehne wrote: The OS support I would simply do as previous - one row only, but maybe with icons to make faster to read. Win95+ or WinXP+ is adequate instead of a whole list of variants (unless newer Wins do not work). This may seem a minor matter, but I'm

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki front end comparison

2009-03-02 Thread DM Smith
On Mar 2, 2009, at 7:36 PM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: Chris Little wrote: Peter von Kaehne wrote: The OS support I would simply do as previous - one row only, but maybe with icons to make faster to read. Win95+ or WinXP+ is adequate instead of a whole list of variants (unless newer Wins

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki front end comparison

2009-03-02 Thread Peter von Kaehne
DM Smith wrote: I have a Windows 98 laptop Could you for curiosity sake test xiphos on it? Peter ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki front end comparison

2009-03-02 Thread Matthew Talbert
Could you for curiosity sake test xiphos on it? I can almost 100% guarantee it won't work. There are Windows api functions being used that were simply non-existent back then. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki front end comparison

2009-03-02 Thread DM Smith
On Mar 2, 2009, at 8:02 PM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: DM Smith wrote: I have a Windows 98 laptop Could you for curiosity sake test xiphos on it? I could, but I think it is a low priority for me and for the Xiphos folk. (Who may not want to know if it works there ;) -- DM

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki front end comparison

2009-03-02 Thread Matthew Talbert
I could, but I think it is a low priority for me and for the Xiphos folk. (Who may not want to know if it works there ;) If it works, would that mean we would have to support it? (desperately praying it won't!!) Matthew ___ sword-devel mailing list:

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki front end comparison - a intermediate summary

2009-03-01 Thread Brian Fernandes
Peter, Truly a great effort and a good list of features for frontend authors to refer to and improve. I want to edit the FireBible rows a bit, but would like to make a few clarifications first; I will wait for your response before editing the tables or you can go ahead and edit it yourself.

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki front end comparison - a intermediate summary

2009-03-01 Thread Jonathan Morgan
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 10:39 PM, Brian Fernandes infernalprot...@gmail.com wrote: Peter, Truly a great effort and a good list of features for frontend authors to refer to and improve. I want to edit the FireBible rows a bit, but would like to make a few clarifications first; I will wait for

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki front end comparison

2009-03-01 Thread Barry Drake
Hi there . I've only just had chance to take a proper look at the Wiki page. It seems good as far as it goes, but I'm very concerned about the things it doesn't compare. I know I keep going on about BibleCS and NET, but that is an important issue to me. Load NET and look at Gen 1:26.

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki front end comparison - a intermediate summary

2009-03-01 Thread DM Smith
Peter, (and others) A couple of thoughts regarding this wiki. First, I think it is going very well. Kudos to all that have helped. I can see a lot of effort has gone into this! I think it would be good to have an explanation of the column headings under each table. Many of the headings are

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki front end comparison

2009-03-01 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Barry Drake wrote: Hi there . I've only just had chance to take a proper look at the Wiki page. It seems good as far as it goes, but I'm very concerned about the things it doesn't compare. why are you concerned? Fix it please. The bulk of the table was produced by myself last night in

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki front end comparison - a intermediate summary

2009-03-01 Thread Peter von Kaehne
DM Smith wrote: Peter, (and others) A couple of thoughts regarding this wiki. First, I think it is going very well. Kudos to all that have helped. I can see a lot of effort has gone into this! Thanks I think it would be good to have an explanation of the column headings under each

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki front end comparison - a intermediate summary

2009-03-01 Thread Peter von Kaehne
Thanks Brian, Brian Fernandes wrote: Peter, Truly a great effort and a good list of features for frontend authors to refer to and improve. It started as a way for users to compare, but I think ultimatrely it will be much more useful to developers etc. I want to edit the FireBible rows

Re: [sword-devel] Wiki front end comparison - a intermediate summary

2009-02-28 Thread Daniel Owens
Peter, You've sure taken this page farther than I had--great job. You thought of MANY things I overlooked. Ideally the wiki should serve as the data for a SWORD Program chooser like some Linux distribution choosers out there that perhaps could be housed on the main website and included with