Re: [sympy] GSOC applicants sending off-list emails

2020-03-29 Thread Nikhil Maan
I think we should encourage students to post on the mailing list when they want to discuss their ideas and if they have any questions, or need any help. I don't think student introductions serve any purpose on the mailing list. The gitter channel might be a better place for that IMO. Regards,

Re: [sympy] GSOC applicants sending off-list emails

2020-03-27 Thread Ondřej Čertík
I think we all agree the discussion should happen at the mailinglist, as opposed in private emails. Only if nobody responds at the list, I think it is ok for the student to email a mentor privately, asking him to respond at the list. Regarding the mailinglist introductions, maybe we can simply

Re: [sympy] GSOC applicants sending off-list emails

2020-03-27 Thread Jason Moore
One more note of concern. We've asked students to post their proposal drafts and final versions to the wiki. This makes it an open process that is also archived by default. There are positives to this approach. It seems most students are now using google docs or sharing pdfs instead. Google docs

Re: [sympy] GSOC applicants sending off-list emails

2020-03-27 Thread Jason Moore
I don't agree that a requirement to introducing themselves should be getting a PR merged. That is a barrier to community building for these new potential contributors. My opinion is that we put far too much weight on the PR(s) in the first place. I like the idea of having each student opening an

Re: [sympy] GSOC applicants sending off-list emails

2020-03-27 Thread vinit wadgaonkar
Sir if that happens it would be much fruitful for first pull request seekers can we have any arrangements made for those to teach to students who are new to git On Sat, 28 Mar, 2020, 2:38 AM Oscar Benjamin, wrote: > Perhaps there could also be a mentor mailing list for helping any new >

Re: [sympy] GSOC applicants sending off-list emails

2020-03-27 Thread Oscar Benjamin
Perhaps there could also be a mentor mailing list for helping any new contributors (GSOC or otherwise) looking to open a first pull request. On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 at 20:41, Oscar Benjamin wrote: > > On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 at 18:31, Aaron Meurer wrote: > > > > Maybe the best way for students to

Re: [sympy] GSOC applicants sending off-list emails

2020-03-27 Thread Oscar Benjamin
On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 at 18:31, Aaron Meurer wrote: > > Maybe the best way for students to simply introduce themselves would > be to mention that they are apply to GSoC when they open their first > pull request. Since they have to open a pull request anyway, this > should reduce the noise. I think

Re: [sympy] GSOC applicants sending off-list emails

2020-03-27 Thread Aaron Meurer
Perhaps we should remove the instruction to introduce yourself to the list from the instructions. I realize those can get quite spammy. Maybe the best way for students to simply introduce themselves would be to mention that they are apply to GSoC when they open their first pull request. Since

Re: [sympy] GSOC applicants sending off-list emails

2020-03-27 Thread Matthew Brett
Hi, Yes, I've often wondered whether it really makes sense to have every potential applicant email the whole mailing list. Perhaps it would be reasonable to have a separate Sympy GSOC mentors list for these emails. Then maybe the applicants could email the list with specific code / design

Re: [sympy] GSOC applicants sending off-list emails

2020-03-27 Thread Gagandeep Singh (B17CS021)
What about asking applicants to create issues on GitHub to discuss their ideas. On Fri, 27 Mar, 2020, 11:47 PM Oscar Benjamin, wrote: > I also wonder if the mailing list is the right place for all these > GSOC discussions anyway. What is normally a low-volume list ramps up > massively right now

Re: [sympy] GSOC applicants sending off-list emails

2020-03-27 Thread Oscar Benjamin
I also wonder if the mailing list is the right place for all these GSOC discussions anyway. What is normally a low-volume list ramps up massively right now as the GSOC deadline approaches which is not good for other users of the mailing list. On Fri, 27 Mar 2020 at 18:05, Nikhil Maan wrote: > >

Re: [sympy] GSOC applicants sending off-list emails

2020-03-27 Thread Nikhil Maan
There are instructions for students for introducing themselves on the mailing list in the *student instructions *and discussing an idea on the mailing list on the* ideas page*. But there is nothing to encourage students to have a public discussion on the mailing list over messaging the mentors

Re: [sympy] GSOC applicants sending off-list emails

2020-03-26 Thread Aaron Meurer
I tend to take the same approach. I don't think there is anything about this in the student instructions on the wiki, but we can add something. Aaron Meurer On Thu, Mar 26, 2020 at 4:07 PM Oscar Benjamin wrote: > > Hi all, > > Over the past couple of months I have lost count of the number of >

[sympy] GSOC applicants sending off-list emails

2020-03-26 Thread Oscar Benjamin
Hi all, Over the past couple of months I have lost count of the number of times that I have been emailed off-list by people interested in applying for GSOC with sympy this year. It's excellent that so many people are interested but I have not replied to *any* off-list emails and I don't intend