I'm not sure how to interpret the pypi download stats. There is a very
regular weekly rhythm and 80% of the downloads are for Linux which I
don't think is representative of the userbase. It looks to me more
like some servers are using sympy and installing it from pypi
thousands of times per day.
In practical terms, maintaining an LTS just means that if a
substantial problem arises with using SymPy 1.5 on Python 2.7 we could
add a fix for it on the 1.5 branch and release 1.5.x with that fix. I
can't see what that problem would be though apart from, say, an update
to pypi that means 1.5
Python 2.7 seems to be about 30% of the downloads still:
https://pypistats.org/packages/sympy
Matplotlib is maintaining an LTS for Python 2.7 (I think), not sure about
Jupyter.
Jason
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On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 9:07 PM Aaron Meurer wrote:
> Quite a few other
Quite a few other large packages have already dropped Python 2 support
for over a year. matplotlib and Jupyter already dropped it. I'm not
aware of many issues.
Aaron Meurer
On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 4:47 PM Isuru Fernando wrote:
>
> FYI, NumPy has already dropped python 2.7 support in 1.17.0 in
FYI, NumPy has already dropped python 2.7 support in 1.17.0 in July. They
are supporting 1.16.x until January, 1 2020 and 1.16.x will no longer be
supported.
Isuru
On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 5:36 PM Oscar Benjamin
wrote:
> I don't see why anything dramatic will happen when NumPy drops support
>
I'm just suggesting we watch and see what happens when the most major
packages switch and then follow after witnessing if it goes smoothly or not.
Jason
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On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 3:36 PM Oscar Benjamin
wrote:
> I don't see why anything dramatic will happen when
I don't see why anything dramatic will happen when NumPy drops support
for Python 2.7. The current releases of both NumPy and SymPy will
still be available for Python 2.7. Gradually over time more new
releases will emerge that can't be installed on Python 2.7 but nothing
will immediately break for
I'd like for us to hang on to Py27 until we see what happens when NumPy
drops it. I personally feel like shit might hit the fan.
Jason
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On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 3:05 PM Aaron Meurer wrote:
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 2:31 PM Oscar Benjamin
> wrote:
>
>>
On Sat, Dec 14, 2019 at 2:31 PM Oscar Benjamin
wrote:
> Python 2.7 support can be dropped in SymPy 1.6 (the next release). We
> don't yet know though if we will need a 1.5.1 bugfix release though so
> I'd prefer to give it a few weeks before dropping Python 2.7 from
> Travis. I think that as
Python 2.7 support can be dropped in SymPy 1.6 (the next release). We
don't yet know though if we will need a 1.5.1 bugfix release though so
I'd prefer to give it a few weeks before dropping Python 2.7 from
Travis. I think that as soon as Python 2.7 is not tested SymPy will
stop working on it
Great new!
Are we going to drop Python 2.7 and 3.4 support?
There are two nice things to have:
1. support for type annotations with enforcement in testing.
2. integration of MatchPy into SymPy (unfortunately this step requires
to drop Python 3.5 support as well, as MatchPy is Python
On Fri, 13 Dec 2019 at 21:41, Oscar Benjamin wrote:
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> Hi all,
>
> It is my pleasure to announce the release of SymPy 1.5 today. I have
> uploaded the release files to for this release to PyPI so you should
> be able to install or upgrade with
>
> $ pip install -U sympy
I just realised I
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