Chris,

After reading the IPR document, my vote is for A.

A. The WG SHOULD proceed with draft-ietf-syslog-transport-tls as a Working
Group document.

Regards

Andrew

Kiwi Enterprises





Chris Lonvick wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> Please continue to send in your opinion on this.  I'll determine 
> consensus next Thursday and outline our steps to go forward.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>
> On Wed, 5 Jul 2006, Chris Lonvick wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> Everyone has now had a week to think about the IETF process on IPR 
>> claims. The first decision that we need to make is about the terms of 
>> the claim.
>> I'd like to hear what people think about the terms that Huawei has 
>> presented.
>>   https://datatracker.ietf.org/public/ipr_detail_show.cgi?&ipr_id=724
>>
>> Please keep in mind that we can (and should) proceed with 
>> syslog-transport-tls if the terms appear reasonable and you (as 
>> implementors) are willing to accept them.  Let's keep this discussion 
>> focused.
>> - We do not need a discussion of the terms.
>> - We do not need any legal opinions.
>> - We do not need a discussion of technical alternatives on this thread.
>>
>>> From that, I'd like to hear either:
>>
>> A) The WG SHOULD proceed with draft-ietf-syslog-transport-tls as a 
>> Working Group document.
>>
>> or
>>
>> B) The WG SHOULD NOT proceed with draft-ietf-syslog-transport-tls as 
>> a Working Group document.
>>
>> I'll leave this open until the 19th (so people going to the IETF can 
>> catch their collective breaths and give a good opinion.
>>
>> If the consensus appears to be "A" then we can get straight back to 
>> work.
>>
>> If the consensus appears to be "B" then I will very briefly ask if 
>> there are changes to the terms that would make them acceptable.  I'll 
>> only ask that if the consensus appears to be "B" so don't insert your 
>> opinions on that at this time.  I'm (just barely) willing to ask that 
>> (once) of the Huawei lawyers but I feel that negotiating terms is not 
>> going to move us forward; it's likely to be a rat-hole discussion and 
>> I won't let us go down there.
>>
>> If the consensus remains "B" then we will likely move away from 
>> syslog-transport-tls.  Where we move to will be a different 
>> discussion so please don't insert your opinion about that on this 
>> discussion thread. David has opened that discussion on a separate 
>> thread so you may discuss it on the list, but I'm not focused on that 
>> at this time.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Chris
>>
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