RE: Structured Data Elements anywhere in the message?

2004-02-25 Thread Rainer Gerhards
Anton,

  I would like to turn to issue 8, that is structured data
  element placement. I have put together the (few) most
  important thoughts here:
 
  http://www.syslog.cc/ietf/protocol/issue8.html
 
  Anton proposed that we
 
  a) allow elements only in their own, well-defined field
  b) merge that with TAG
 
  I personally think a) is a good idea while I am very
  sceptical about b). I would appreciate any more feedback
  on this issue.

 I was actually going to raise the issue of TAG field as
 another issue if
 we don't address it as part of this one.

 As you yourself indicated, we are not sure about the whole business of
 static and dynamic parts of TAG and what it is supposed to be
 used for.
 I don't think we can allow such ambiguity in the -protocol. Whatever
 this field is used for, it must be specified clearly IMO.
 When I think
 about what TAG field might be used for, I definitely see an
 overlap with
 structured content field in concept.

I just wanted to let everyone know that I am now tracking this as issue
16:

http://www.syslog.cc/ietf/protocol/issue16.html

The link above also contains pointers to two important past discussion
threads. I suggest to review them while thinking over this issue.

Rainer




Structured Data Elements anywhere in the message?

2004-02-11 Thread Rainer Gerhards
Hi WG,

I am trying to close up the current open issues for protocol before I
create new ones ;)

I would like to turn to issue 8, that is structured data element
placement. I have put together the (few) most important thoughts here:

http://www.syslog.cc/ietf/protocol/issue8.html

Anton proposed that we

a) allow elements only in their own, well-defined field
b) merge that with TAG

I personally think a) is a good idea while I am very sceptical about b).
I would appreciate any more feedback on this issue.

Many thanks,
Rainer




RE: Structured Data Elements anywhere in the message?

2004-02-11 Thread Anton Okmianski
Rainer:

 I would like to turn to issue 8, that is structured data
 element placement. I have put together the (few) most
 important thoughts here:

 http://www.syslog.cc/ietf/protocol/issue8.html

 Anton proposed that we

 a) allow elements only in their own, well-defined field
 b) merge that with TAG

 I personally think a) is a good idea while I am very
 sceptical about b). I would appreciate any more feedback
 on this issue.

I was actually going to raise the issue of TAG field as another issue if
we don't address it as part of this one.

As you yourself indicated, we are not sure about the whole business of
static and dynamic parts of TAG and what it is supposed to be used for.
I don't think we can allow such ambiguity in the -protocol. Whatever
this field is used for, it must be specified clearly IMO.  When I think
about what TAG field might be used for, I definitely see an overlap with
structured content field in concept.

Anton.