Re: [systemd-devel] Is restart gracefull?

On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 12:53 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Fri, 29.11.13 00:11, Cecil Westerhof (cecil.wester...@snow.nl) wrote: >> I have done a trial presentation about systemd. One of the questions >> there was: when a restart of for example apache is doen, is this >> restart done gracefu

Re: [systemd-devel] Thread level resource management

On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 1:58 AM, Umut Tezduyar Lindskog wrote: > Can someone explain the process level management? Right now, it's possible to do directly in the cgroups file system, but we're eventually moving away from anything manipulating that but systemd. I think that there will still be a w

Re: [systemd-devel] QOS

On 11/29/2013 04:10 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Fri, 29.11.13 00:27, Cecil Westerhof (cecil.wester...@snow.nl) wrote: I was asked if you could use systemd for QOS? Depends on what specifically you mean by QOS... I'll ask the questioner. (Any chance you can combine your questions in

Re: [systemd-devel] [systemd-commits] 4 commits - configure.ac Makefile.am src/core src/network src/shared

On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 02:35:47AM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Thu, 28.11.13 11:40, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > > > commit bd441fa27a22b7c6e11d9330560e0622fb69f297 > > Author: Zbigniew J??drzejewski-Szmek > > Date: Thu Nov 28 12:07:29 2013 -0500 > > > > build-sys: make multi-s

Re: [systemd-devel] [systemd-commits] 4 commits - configure.ac Makefile.am src/core src/network src/shared

On 29.11.2013 02:35, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Thu, 28.11.13 11:40, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > (zbys...@kemper.freedesktop.org) wrote: > >> commit bd441fa27a22b7c6e11d9330560e0622fb69f297 >> Author: Zbigniew J??drzejewski-Szmek >> Date: Thu Nov 28 12:07:29 2013 -0500 >> >> build-sy

Re: [systemd-devel] QOS

On Fri, 29.11.13 00:27, Cecil Westerhof (cecil.wester...@snow.nl) wrote: > I was asked if you could use systemd for QOS? Depends on what specifically you mean by QOS... (Any chance you can combine your questions in fewer emails, instead of one question per mail? I'd really like to keep the traff

Re: [systemd-devel] What if a service is started manually

On Fri, 29.11.13 00:23, Cecil Westerhof (cecil.wester...@snow.nl) wrote: > In a trial presentation I used the following service file: > [Unit] > Description=Virtual Distributed Ethernet > After=syslog.target In curretn systemd versions the After=syslog.target is unnecessary. > > [Service] > Ty

Re: [systemd-devel] Seeing logging as user

On Fri, 29.11.13 01:32, Cecil Westerhof (cecil.wester...@snow.nl) wrote: > >Your cronjobs do not run in a systemd-logind session (though they > >could), but they /do/ run with your uid, so you would be able to see > >them in the split-by-uid mode at least. > > Is not what I mend. I want user ceci

Re: [systemd-devel] Is restart gracefull?

On Fri, 29.11.13 00:11, Cecil Westerhof (cecil.wester...@snow.nl) wrote: > I have done a trial presentation about systemd. One of the questions > there was: when a restart of for example apache is doen, is this > restart done graceful? For systemd a "restart" is actually exactly what the name say

Re: [systemd-devel] [systemd-commits] 4 commits - catalog/systemd-fr.catalog catalog/systemd-ru.catalog configure.ac Makefile.am po/.gitignore po/LINGUAS po/ru.po

On Thu, 28.11.13 00:54, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@kemper.freedesktop.org) wrote: > commit f1a1264d13b31b9f5521f482d9a5a9d78da55efb > Author: Zbigniew J??drzejewski-Szmek > Date: Thu Nov 28 03:41:33 2013 -0500 > > build-sys: avoid warnings from assert_cc > > diff --git a/config

Re: [systemd-devel] [systemd-commits] 4 commits - configure.ac Makefile.am src/core src/network src/shared

On Thu, 28.11.13 11:40, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek (zbys...@kemper.freedesktop.org) wrote: > commit bd441fa27a22b7c6e11d9330560e0622fb69f297 > Author: Zbigniew J??drzejewski-Szmek > Date: Thu Nov 28 12:07:29 2013 -0500 > > build-sys: make multi-seat-x optional > > At some point

Re: [systemd-devel] Seeing logging as user

On 11/29/2013 01:22 AM, Mantas Mikulėnas wrote: http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-journald.service.html#Access%20Control >>> >>> >>> What if I want this user to also see the log of for example cron? >> >> >> According to that link, you need to add the user to the >> s

Re: [systemd-devel] Seeing logging as user

On Nov 29, 2013 2:18 AM, "Cecil Westerhof" wrote: > > On 11/29/2013 12:43 AM, Garry T. Williams wrote: >> >> On 11-29-13 00:15:47 Cecil Westerhof wrote: http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-journald.service.html#Access%20Control >>> >>> >>> What if I want this user to

Re: [systemd-devel] QOS

El 28/11/13 20:27, Cecil Westerhof escribió: > I was asked if you could use systemd for QOS? Not directly with systemd. ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel

Re: [systemd-devel] Is restart gracefull?

El 28/11/13 20:11, Cecil Westerhof escribió: > I have done a trial presentation about systemd. One of the questions > there was: when a restart of for example apache is doen, is this restart > done graceful? > It depends on what the person writting the unit files intends to do, in most distributi

Re: [systemd-devel] Seeing logging as user

On 11/29/2013 12:43 AM, Garry T. Williams wrote: On 11-29-13 00:15:47 Cecil Westerhof wrote: http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-journald.service.html#Access%20Control What if I want this user to also see the log of for example cron? According to that link, you need to ad

Re: [systemd-devel] What if a service is started manually

On 11/29/2013 12:59 AM, Mantas Mikulėnas wrote: >> > In a trial presentation I used the following service file: >> > [Unit] >> > Description=Virtual Distributed Ethernet >> > After=syslog.target >> > >> > [Service] >> > Type=forking >> > PIDFile=/var/run/vde.pid >> > # Note the

Re: [systemd-devel] xnitd

- Original Message - > From: "Mantas Mikulėnas" > To: "Cecil Westerhof" > Cc: "systemd Mailing List" > Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 9:57:04 AM > Subject: Re: [systemd-devel] xnitd > > On Nov 29, 2013 1:30 AM, "Cecil Westerhof" wrote: > > > > How does systemd compare to xinitd? >

Re: [systemd-devel] What if a service is started manually

On Nov 29, 2013 1:36 AM, "Cecil Westerhof" wrote: > > Thanks for the speedy reply. > > > On 11/29/2013 12:30 AM, Mantas Mikulėnas wrote: >> >> On Nov 29, 2013 1:24 AM, "Cecil Westerhof" > > wrote: >> > >> > In a trial presentation I used the following service file

Re: [systemd-devel] Check from several machines on one machine

On Nov 29, 2013 1:41 AM, "Cecil Westerhof" wrote: > > With rsyslog you can send everything to one machine and evaluate the logs of several machines on that one machine. As I understand it, journald is mend to work locally. Is there a way to centralize the usage of journals? This could be done with

Re: [systemd-devel] xnitd

On Nov 29, 2013 1:30 AM, "Cecil Westerhof" wrote: > > How does systemd compare to xinitd? Did you mean inetd/xinetd? systemd's .socket units are very similar (many existing programs, like sshd, can be moved directly from inetd to systemd -- Accept=yes corresponds to the 'nowait' type, and Accept

Re: [systemd-devel] Check from several machines on one machine

- Original Message - > From: "Cecil Westerhof" > To: systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org > Sent: Friday, November 29, 2013 9:40:18 AM > Subject: [systemd-devel] Check from several machines on one machine > > With rsyslog you can send everything to one machine and evaluate the > logs of

Re: [systemd-devel] Seeing logging as user

On 11-29-13 00:15:47 Cecil Westerhof wrote: > > http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-journald.service.html#Access%20Control > > What if I want this user to also see the log of for example cron? According to that link, you need to add the user to the systemd-journal group. --

[systemd-devel] Check from several machines on one machine

With rsyslog you can send everything to one machine and evaluate the logs of several machines on that one machine. As I understand it, journald is mend to work locally. Is there a way to centralize the usage of journals? This could be done with rsyslog, but then you lose all the benefits of jou

Re: [systemd-devel] What if a service is started manually

On 11/29/2013 12:23 AM, Cecil Westerhof wrote: In a trial presentation I used the following service file: [Unit] Description=Virtual Distributed Ethernet After=syslog.target [Service] Type=forking PIDFile=/var/run/vde.pid # Note the -f: don't fail if there is no PID file ExecStartPre=/bin/rm -f

[systemd-devel] xnitd

How does systemd compare to xinitd? Met vriendelijke groet, Cecil Westerhof Engineer mobiel +31 - 6 - 25 00 38 81 -- Snow B.V. Unix Specialists De Ooyen 11 4191 PB Geldermalsen http://www.snow.nl tel. +31 - 345 - 65 66 66 ___ systemd-devel mailin

[systemd-devel] QOS

I was asked if you could use systemd for QOS? ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel

[systemd-devel] What if a service is started manually

In a trial presentation I used the following service file: [Unit] Description=Virtual Distributed Ethernet After=syslog.target [Service] Type=forking PIDFile=/var/run/vde.pid # Note the -f: don't fail if there is no PID file ExecStartPre=/bin/rm -f /var/run/vde.pid ExecStart=/usr/bin/vde_switch -

Re: [systemd-devel] Seeing logging as user

On 11/28/2013 12:37 AM, Kay Sievers wrote: I have to give a presentation about systemd/journald. One of the things I want to show is that you do not need an administrator to see the log messages that are generated by you. I did: - makedir /var/log/journal - systemctl kill -s SIGUSR1 systemd-jour

[systemd-devel] Is restart gracefull?

I have done a trial presentation about systemd. One of the questions there was: when a restart of for example apache is doen, is this restart done graceful? Met vriendelijke groet, Cecil Westerhof Engineer mobiel +31 - 6 - 25 00 38 81 -- Snow B.V. Unix Specialists De Ooyen 11 4191 PB Geld

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] systemctl: add "systemctl cat"

On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 10:34:10AM -0800, Shawn Landden wrote: > v3: log_warning() inserts a trailing newline > --- > TODO | 2 - > src/shared/fileio.c | 73 ++- > src/shared/fileio.h | 1 + > src/shared/util.c | 2 + > sr

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd-multi-seat-x deprecation is near...

On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 01:33:29PM -0200, Laércio de Sousa wrote: > If/when these patches are released, then systemd-multi-seat-x, in its > current form, will be no longer necessary. So, unless you have another > plans for this wrapper, I would like to suggest that you make its build > optional in

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] util: don't consider trailing whitespaces as an empty string in split_quoted

On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 7:12 PM, Dave Reisner wrote: > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 06:45:06PM +0100, Tom Gundersen wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Lukas Nykryn wrote: >> > --- >> > src/shared/util.c | 4 +++- >> > 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-) >> > >> > diff --git a/src/s

Re: [systemd-devel] Optionally save core dumps as plain files

On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Umut Tezduyar Lindskog wrote: > I can’t find the last word on Oleksii’s coredump patch > http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2013-May/010991.html. Was > there a decision about not taking it in? So far we planned to have a minidump integration in

[systemd-devel] [PATCH] systemctl: add "systemctl cat"

v3: log_warning() inserts a trailing newline --- TODO | 2 - src/shared/fileio.c | 73 ++- src/shared/fileio.h | 1 + src/shared/util.c | 2 + src/systemctl/systemctl.c | 97 +++

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 2/2] systemctl: add "systemctl cat"

On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:59 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 07:52:53PM -0800, Shawn Landden wrote: >> --- >> TODO | 2 -- >> src/shared/fileio.c | 73 - >> src/shared/fileio.h | 1 + >> src/s

[systemd-devel] [PATCH] systemctl: add "systemctl cat"

--- TODO | 2 - src/shared/fileio.c | 73 ++- src/shared/fileio.h | 1 + src/shared/util.c | 2 + src/systemctl/systemctl.c | 97 +++ 5 files changed, 172 insertions(+), 3 deleti

Re: [systemd-devel] Thread level resource management

On Nov 25, 2013, at 6:59 PM, Kay Sievers wrote: > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 5:28 PM, Umut Tezduyar Lindskog > wrote: >> On Nov 24, 2013, at 4:39 PM, Kay Sievers wrote: >>> On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Umut Tezduyar Lindskog >>> wrote: How do we support thread level resource management

Re: [systemd-devel] [systemd-commits] man/crypttab.xml

On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 12:48:51PM +0100, Kay Sievers wrote: > On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek > wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 12:31:24AM -0800, Lukas Nykryn wrote: > >> man/crypttab.xml |2 -- > >> 1 file changed, 2 deletions(-) > >> > >> New commits: > >> c

[systemd-devel] Optionally save core dumps as plain files

Hi, I can’t find the last word on Oleksii’s coredump patch http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2013-May/010991.html. Was there a decision about not taking it in? Thanks ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org

[systemd-devel] systemd-multi-seat-x deprecation is near...

Hi there! I've submitted some patches to xorg-devel to fill the remaining gaps which make current sytemd-multi-seat-x wrapper still needed in some multiseat setups. One of these patches was already merged into upstream and should be released in xorg-server v1.15 (see http://cgit.freedesktop.org/x

Re: [systemd-devel] 'udevadm test' removes/adds by-id/by-path links

On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 11:36 AM, Robert Milasan wrote: > Hello, > when running 'udevadm test /sys/block/sdb --action=remove' then links > to the device node in /dev/disk/{by-id,by-path} are being removed and > running udevadm test with action=add, the links are re-added. > > robert@viper:~>

Re: [systemd-devel] [systemd-commits] man/crypttab.xml

On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 8:41 AM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: > On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 12:31:24AM -0800, Lukas Nykryn wrote: >> man/crypttab.xml |2 -- >> 1 file changed, 2 deletions(-) >> >> New commits: >> commit 517dcac840fe8d5bf30a05c0084eff219af10a4a >> Author: Lukas Nykryn >> Da

[systemd-devel] 'udevadm test' removes/adds by-id/by-path links

Hello, when running 'udevadm test /sys/block/sdb --action=remove' then links to the device node in /dev/disk/{by-id,by-path} are being removed and running udevadm test with action=add, the links are re-added. robert@viper:~> ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/|grep sdb lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Nov 28 11

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd 208:trouble with inactive user sessions at non-seat0 seats

Hi On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 2:33 PM, Laércio de Sousa wrote: > David, > > Looking at GDM debug and gdm-simple-slave.c source file, as well as > "loginctl show-seat" output. I guess that GDM only requests user session > activation for seats with CanMultiSession=yes, but currently systemd-logind > s

Re: [systemd-devel] French translation for systemd

On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 08:43:09PM +0100, Sylvain Plantefeve wrote: > Hi Gentlemen, > > Just a little "ping" to get fixed the few typos in the french translation > of the journal's catalog. > > See the patch in attachment. > > Thanks! Applied, thanks. Zbyszek ___

Re: [systemd-devel] [systemd-bugs] Russian translation for systemd

On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 07:57:41AM +0600, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > 2013/11/18 Sergey Ptashnick <0comff...@inbox.ru>: > > On 17.11.2013 16:34, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: > >> You translate "host name" as "имя компьютера", both GDM and KDM translators > >> use "имя узла". > > > > In this case

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC 12/12] console: add systemd-consoled

Hi On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:39 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 27.11.13 19:48, David Herrmann (dh.herrm...@gmail.com) wrote: > >> + >> +pid_t pty_new(unsigned short term_width, unsigned short term_height, >> Terminal *t, Pty **out) { >> +Pty *pty; >> +pid_t pid; >> +

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC 08/12] gfx: add monitor

Hi On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 27.11.13 19:48, David Herrmann (dh.herrm...@gmail.com) wrote: > >> While all previous sd-gfx interfaces are self-contained and can be used >> directly on selected devices, this adds an interface to connect them all >> togeth

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC 07/12] gfx: add graphics layer

Hi On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:24 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 27.11.13 19:48, David Herrmann (dh.herrm...@gmail.com) wrote: > >> +typedef struct gfx_config_pipe gfx_config_pipe; >> +typedef struct gfx_connector gfx_connector; >> +typedef struct gfx_encoder gfx_encoder; >> + >> +/* cloc

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC 06/12] gfx: add keyboard layer

Hi On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:17 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 27.11.13 19:48, David Herrmann (dh.herrm...@gmail.com) wrote: > >> + >> +enum { >> +SD_GFX__LED_NUML, >> +SD_GFX__LED_CAPSL, >> +SD_GFX__LED_SCROLLL, >> +SD_GFX__LED_COUNT, >> +}; > > Double u

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC 05/12] gfx: add sd-gfx library with unifont section

Hi On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:11 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 27.11.13 19:48, David Herrmann (dh.herrm...@gmail.com) wrote: > >> This patch introduces sd-gfx, a systemd-internal library dealing with all >> these things. Note that it is designed to be exported some day, but for >> now w

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC 03/12] bus: add two new bus_*_map_*_properties() helpers

Hi On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 10:58 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 27.11.13 19:48, David Herrmann (dh.herrm...@gmail.com) wrote: > >> +/* skip interface, but allow callers to do that themselves */ >> +sd_bus_message_skip(m, "s"); > > This feels a bit like taping over bugs. I

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC 02/12] ring: add basic ring-buffer helper

Hi On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 1:27 AM, Lucas De Marchi wrote: > On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 4:48 PM, David Herrmann wrote: >> This adds a very straightforward ring-buffer implementation to >> libsystemd-shared. Ring-buffers allow pushing data to, and pulling data >> from, both ends of a buffer without

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC 02/12] ring: add basic ring-buffer helper

Hi On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 10:53 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 27.11.13 19:48, David Herrmann (dh.herrm...@gmail.com) wrote: > >> +void ring_flush(Ring *r) { >> +r->start = 0; >> +r->end = 0; >> +} >> + >> +void ring_clear(Ring *r) { >> +free(r->buf); >> +

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC 00/12] Bugfixes for CONFIG_VT=n

Hi On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:44 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Wed, 27.11.13 19:48, David Herrmann (dh.herrm...@gmail.com) wrote: > > Looks pretty good. Commented on the invidiaul patches, but mostly looks > good. > > I am not sure about the whole approach of making this a potentially > publ

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH 2/2] systemctl: add "systemctl cat"

On Sat, Nov 23, 2013 at 07:52:53PM -0800, Shawn Landden wrote: > --- > TODO | 2 -- > src/shared/fileio.c | 73 - > src/shared/fileio.h | 1 + > src/systemctl/systemctl.c | 91 > +++