Re: [systemd-devel] Dropping split-usr/unmerged-usr support

2022-04-07 Thread Wol
On 07/04/2022 23:48, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: A few conversations over the course of the day in an IRC channel isn't necessarily representative of the whole project, but the impression I got was way less so about hostility and more so just that nobody has gotten around to doing the work and trac

Re: [systemd-devel] Dropping split-usr/unmerged-usr support

2022-04-07 Thread Jason A. Donenfeld
Hi Wol, On Fri, Apr 8, 2022 at 12:02 AM Wol wrote: > > On 07/04/2022 17:47, Mike Gilbert wrote: > >> So, my guess would be that the people who dislike merged-/usr are also > >> the ones who dislike systemd, no? i.e. do they really matter if we are > >> talking about what to support in systemd? Th

Re: [systemd-devel] Samba Config Reload

2022-04-07 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Thursday, April 07, 2022 12:30 PM +0200 Lennart Poettering wrote: The other two options are likely similar, i.e. synchronous and talk to smbd directly. But I don't know samba that well, so it's just an assumption. In fact, if ExecStop= in smbd.service just calls the smbcontrol they behave

Re: [systemd-devel] Dropping split-usr/unmerged-usr support

2022-04-07 Thread Wol
On 07/04/2022 17:47, Mike Gilbert wrote: So, my guess would be that the people who dislike merged-/usr are also the ones who dislike systemd, no? i.e. do they really matter if we are talking about what to support in systemd? They'd not use our stuff anyway, so why bother? There's probably also

Re: [systemd-devel] Dropping split-usr/unmerged-usr support

2022-04-07 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 5:18 AM Luca Boccassi wrote: > > On Thu, 2022-04-07 at 10:59 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Mi, 06.04.22 11:24, Mike Gilbert (flop...@gentoo.org) wrote: > > > > > We are not likely to require merging of / and /usr for the foreseeable > > > future. We are a "rolling

Re: [systemd-devel] Dropping split-usr/unmerged-usr support

2022-04-07 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 4:59 AM Lennart Poettering wrote: > > On Mi, 06.04.22 11:24, Mike Gilbert (flop...@gentoo.org) wrote: > > > We are not likely to require merging of / and /usr for the foreseeable > > future. We are a "rolling release" distro and basically never require > > our users to re-in

Re: [systemd-devel] all numeric usernames not allowed in systemd (version 245 onward)

2022-04-07 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Do, 07.04.22 16:37, Nikhil Kshirsagar (nkshirsa...@gmail.com) wrote: > While I completely understand the motivation to do this, my concern is that > this change will break logins for users on a lot of servers that upgrade to > the new systemd. Well, it breaks anyway, since numeric user names a

Re: [systemd-devel] all numeric usernames not allowed in systemd (version 245 onward)

2022-04-07 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Thu, Apr 07, 2022 at 04:37:48PM +0530, Nikhil Kshirsagar wrote: > Is there any chance systemd could support a configuration option in the > future to get the earlier "all numeric" user logins to work? With an > understanding that it would be at the users own risk? No. > Are there any pam_system

[systemd-devel] all numeric usernames not allowed in systemd (version 245 onward)

2022-04-07 Thread Nikhil Kshirsagar
Hello, I gather from the discussion on https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/15141 that all numeric usernames would no longer be supported on servers running systemd version 245 onward. This was also reiterated by Frantisek and Lennart (thank you for your email responses and for redirecting me

Re: [systemd-devel] Antw: [EXT] Dropping split-usr/unmerged-usr support

2022-04-07 Thread Luca Boccassi
On Wed, 2022-04-06 at 08:39 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 8:07 AM Luca Boccassi wrote: > > > > On Wed, 2022-04-06 at 06:51 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2022 at 6:45 AM Luca Boccassi > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wed, 2022-04-06 at 08:05 +0200, Ulrich Wind

Re: [systemd-devel] Samba Config Reload

2022-04-07 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mi, 06.04.22 06:21, Yolo von BNANA (y...@bnana.de) wrote: > What is the best way to reload the Samba Configuration – and why? > > 1. systemctl reload smbd > 2. smbcontrol smbd reload-config > 3. pkill -HUP smbd > > I think it's this Order. (1 is best) > But I couldn't explain it to somebody els

Re: [systemd-devel] Dropping split-usr/unmerged-usr support

2022-04-07 Thread Luca Boccassi
On Thu, 2022-04-07 at 10:59 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mi, 06.04.22 11:24, Mike Gilbert (flop...@gentoo.org) wrote: > > > We are not likely to require merging of / and /usr for the foreseeable > > future. We are a "rolling release" distro and basically never require > > our users to re-

Re: [systemd-devel] Dropping split-usr/unmerged-usr support

2022-04-07 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mi, 06.04.22 11:24, Mike Gilbert (flop...@gentoo.org) wrote: > We are not likely to require merging of / and /usr for the foreseeable > future. We are a "rolling release" distro and basically never require > our users to re-install, which makes large file system migrations > difficult. Also, ma

Re: [systemd-devel] Antw: Re: Antw: [EXT] Dropping split-usr/unmerged-usr support

2022-04-07 Thread Neal Gompa
On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 3:45 AM Ulrich Windl wrote: > > >>> Wols Lists schrieb am 06.04.2022 um 21:41 in > Nachricht : > > On 06/04/2022 10:34, Luca Boccassi wrote: > >>> Symlinking /sbin or /usr/sbin binaries to /usr is also a bad concept > >>> IMHO. > >>> > >>> It seems systemd is the new Micros