Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC 00/25] Compile against the musl libc

2014-10-10 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 18.09.14 21:21, Emil Renner Berthing (syst...@esmil.dk) wrote: Hi Tom, On 18 September 2014 18:29, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote: In general, I don't think we should add patches for the sole purpose of non-glibc compatibility. You would in most cases be much better served by

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC 00/25] Compile against the musl libc

2014-10-02 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 01:38:44PM +0200, Umut Tezduyar Lindskog wrote: Axis Communications is running fairly compact version of systemd with some properties disabled with --disable--xyz. Files are a bit over 10 mb on MIPS ISA (stripped of binaries and conf files). Top 10 large files are

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC 00/25] Compile against the musl libc

2014-09-19 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 9:21 PM, Emil Renner Berthing syst...@esmil.dk wrote: On 18 September 2014 18:29, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote: In general, I don't think we should add patches for the sole purpose of non-glibc compatibility. You would in most cases be much better served by adding

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC 00/25] Compile against the musl libc

2014-09-19 Thread Umut Tezduyar Lindskog
Axis Communications is running fairly compact version of systemd with some properties disabled with --disable--xyz. Files are a bit over 10 mb on MIPS ISA (stripped of binaries and conf files). Top 10 large files are (in kb) 276 ./Root/usr/lib/systemd/systemd-udevd 280 ./Root/usr/bin/udevadm

[systemd-devel] [RFC 00/25] Compile against the musl libc

2014-09-18 Thread Emil Renner Berthing
Hi, Around the internet one can read statements such as systemd is designed with glibc in mind and the systemd developers' idea of a standard libc is one that has bug-for-bug compatibility with glibc. So in a fit of naivety I decided to test this out and see how much work it would take to make

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC 00/25] Compile against the musl libc

2014-09-18 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 09/18/2014 01:24 PM, Emil Renner Berthing wrote: The real reason is of course that I'd like to see systemd running on my router and other small devices that usually run some OpenWRT derivative. The openwrt community is still going forward with their (re)-invention of init system called

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC 00/25] Compile against the musl libc

2014-09-18 Thread Emil Renner Berthing
On 18 September 2014 16:10, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/18/2014 01:24 PM, Emil Renner Berthing wrote: The real reason is of course that I'd like to see systemd running on my router and other small devices that usually run some OpenWRT derivative. The openwrt

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC 00/25] Compile against the musl libc

2014-09-18 Thread Philippe De Swert
Hi, On 18/09/14 17:13, Emil Renner Berthing wrote: On 18 September 2014 16:10, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/18/2014 01:24 PM, Emil Renner Berthing wrote: The real reason is of course that I'd like to see systemd running on my router and other small devices that

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC 00/25] Compile against the musl libc

2014-09-18 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 09/18/2014 02:20 PM, Philippe De Swert wrote: Hi, On 18/09/14 17:13, Emil Renner Berthing wrote: On 18 September 2014 16:10, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/18/2014 01:24 PM, Emil Renner Berthing wrote: The real reason is of course that I'd like to see systemd

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC 00/25] Compile against the musl libc

2014-09-18 Thread Cristian Rodríguez
El 18/09/14 a las #4, Emil Renner Berthing escribió: Hi, Around the internet one can read statements such as systemd is designed with glibc in mind and the systemd developers' idea of a standard libc is one that has bug-for-bug compatibility with glibc. For all practical purposes this is

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC 00/25] Compile against the musl libc

2014-09-18 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Emil Renner Berthing syst...@esmil.dk wrote: Around the internet one can read statements such as systemd is designed with glibc in mind and the systemd developers' idea of a standard libc is one that has bug-for-bug compatibility with glibc. So in a fit of

Re: [systemd-devel] [RFC 00/25] Compile against the musl libc

2014-09-18 Thread Emil Renner Berthing
Hi Tom, On 18 September 2014 18:29, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote: In general, I don't think we should add patches for the sole purpose of non-glibc compatibility. You would in most cases be much better served by adding the missing functionality to your libc, rather than to each of the