Re: [systemd-devel] Extending machine-info to include machine roles

2014-08-15 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 08.07.14 23:07, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson (johan...@gmail.com) wrote: Now let's start the dialog with machine roles and start by agreeing what roles are What's the latest on this? I'd be willing to take a patch for this, but he same rules as for deployment should apply: no strict checks

Re: [systemd-devel] Extending machine-info to include machine roles

2014-07-09 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Jóhann B. Guðmundsson If we manage to do that, introduce rolefulfilment= in units which we would define those standardized predefined set of roles as in for httpd.service we might have rolefulfilment=web server, for postgresql, rolefulfilment=database server etc. so you could list/query

Re: [systemd-devel] Extending machine-info to include machine roles

2014-07-09 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 07/09/2014 08:33 AM, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: ]] Jóhann B. Guðmundsson If we manage to do that, introduce rolefulfilment= in units which we would define those standardized predefined set of roles as in for httpd.service we might have rolefulfilment=web server, for postgresql,

Re: [systemd-devel] Extending machine-info to include machine roles

2014-07-09 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Jóhann B. Guðmundsson On 07/09/2014 08:33 AM, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: ]] Jóhann B. Guðmundsson If we manage to do that, introduce rolefulfilment= in units which we would define those standardized predefined set of roles as in for httpd.service we might have rolefulfilment=web

Re: [systemd-devel] Extending machine-info to include machine roles

2014-07-09 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Lennart Poettering On Wed, 09.07.14 12:58, Tollef Fog Heen (tfh...@err.no) wrote: ]] Jóhann B. Guðmundsson On 07/09/2014 08:33 AM, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: ]] Jóhann B. Guðmundsson If we manage to do that, introduce rolefulfilment= in units which we would define

[systemd-devel] Extending machine-info to include machine roles

2014-07-08 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
Now let's start the dialog with machine roles and start by agreeing what roles are From my point of view roles are human representation of the primary duty the machine performs it's not the environment they are run in. ( like development,staging,production ) nor is it the components

Re: [systemd-devel] Extending machine-info to include machine roles

2014-07-08 Thread David Timothy Strauss
I don't see much value in choosing a role from a predefined list. Rarely do machines fit into one single, straightforward role. It would be more useful to support machine tags/labels/roles that map to units, especially if that's dynamically configurable using, say, DHCP(v6). Then, something may

Re: [systemd-devel] Extending machine-info to include machine roles

2014-07-08 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 07/09/2014 12:14 AM, David Timothy Strauss wrote: I don't see much value in choosing a role from a predefined list. Rarely do machines fit into one single, straightforward role. I would disagree here like for one example security wise you want to implement only one primary role per server