Re: [systemd-devel] What makes systemd-nspawn not suitable for secure container setups?

2011-04-26 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 25.04.11 20:51, microcai (micro...@fedoraproject.org) wrote: 于 2011年04月25日 20:43, Daniel J Walsh 写道: SELinux would be a good start. No, root inside can still change SE-Linux policy. No. The SELinux policy can forbid reloading the SELinux policy for certain users/processes.

Re: [systemd-devel] What makes systemd-nspawn not suitable for secure container setups?

2011-04-26 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/26/2011 01:54 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Mon, 25.04.11 20:51, microcai (micro...@fedoraproject.org) wrote: 于 2011年04月25日 20:43, Daniel J Walsh 写道: SELinux would be a good start. No, root inside can still change SE-Linux policy.

Re: [systemd-devel] What makes systemd-nspawn not suitable for secure container setups?

2011-04-25 Thread Daniel J Walsh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/22/2011 07:42 PM, Josh Triplett wrote: The systemd-nspawn manpage lists the various mechanisms used to isolate the container, and then says Note that even though these security precautions are taken systemd-nspawn is not suitable for secure

Re: [systemd-devel] What makes systemd-nspawn not suitable for secure container setups?

2011-04-25 Thread microcai
于 2011年04月25日 20:43, Daniel J Walsh 写道: SELinux would be a good start. No, root inside can still change SE-Linux policy. ___ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel

Re: [systemd-devel] What makes systemd-nspawn not suitable for secure container setups?

2011-04-24 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 22.04.11 19:55, Josh Triplett (j...@joshtriplett.org) wrote: The systemd-nspawn manpage lists the various mechanisms used to isolate the container, and then says Note that even though these security precautions are taken systemd-nspawn is not suitable for secure container setups. Many

Re: [systemd-devel] What makes systemd-nspawn not suitable for secure container setups?

2011-04-24 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 22.04.11 21:16, Josh Triplett (j...@joshtriplett.org) wrote: On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 11:28:58AM +0800, microcai wrote: 于 2011年04月23日 10:55, Josh Triplett 写道: The systemd-nspawn manpage lists the various mechanisms used to isolate the container, and then says Note that even though

Re: [systemd-devel] What makes systemd-nspawn not suitable for secure container setups?

2011-04-24 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sat, 23.04.11 13:29, microcai (micro...@fedoraproject.org) wrote: Ah, good point. So, root inside the container can trivially circumvent the container that way. Any way to prevent that with current kernel support, or would fixing this require additional kernel changes to lock down

Re: [systemd-devel] What makes systemd-nspawn not suitable for secure container setups?

2011-04-24 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Lennart Poettering [...] | (Consider the container blocking all ports 6000 thus making it | impossible to run X on the host). But this one is actually not a big | issue in the end I guess, so let's ignore it here. X doesn't listen on tcp by default those days, so this shouldn't be a

[systemd-devel] What makes systemd-nspawn not suitable for secure container setups?

2011-04-23 Thread Josh Triplett
The systemd-nspawn manpage lists the various mechanisms used to isolate the container, and then says Note that even though these security precautions are taken systemd-nspawn is not suitable for secure container setups. Many of the security features may be circumvented and are hence primarily

[systemd-devel] What makes systemd-nspawn not suitable for secure container setups?

2011-04-22 Thread Josh Triplett
The systemd-nspawn manpage lists the various mechanisms used to isolate the container, and then says Note that even though these security precautions are taken systemd-nspawn is not suitable for secure container setups. Many of the security features may be circumvented and are hence primarily

Re: [systemd-devel] What makes systemd-nspawn not suitable for secure container setups?

2011-04-22 Thread Josh Triplett
On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 11:28:58AM +0800, microcai wrote: 于 2011年04月23日 10:55, Josh Triplett 写道: The systemd-nspawn manpage lists the various mechanisms used to isolate the container, and then says Note that even though these security precautions are taken systemd-nspawn is not suitable for

Re: [systemd-devel] What makes systemd-nspawn not suitable for secure container setups?

2011-04-22 Thread microcai
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 于 2011年04月23日 12:16, Josh Triplett 写道: On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 11:28:58AM +0800, microcai wrote: 于 2011年04月23日 10:55, Josh Triplett 写道: The systemd-nspawn manpage lists the various mechanisms used to isolate the container, and then says Note that