Re: [systemd-devel] systemd shutdown vs ostree

2013-09-17 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sun, 15.09.13 17:26, Koen Kooi (k...@dominion.thruhere.net) wrote: On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Koen Kooi k...@dominion.thruhere.net wrote: Please keep in mind that pstore is x86 only. EFI isn't x86 only, but exceedingly rare outside of that arch. What? Pstore itself isn't.

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd shutdown vs ostree

2013-09-15 Thread Koen Kooi
Op 14 sep. 2013, om 11:04 heeft Jan Alexander Steffens jan.steff...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven: On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Koen Kooi k...@dominion.thruhere.net wrote: Please keep in mind that pstore is x86 only. EFI isn't x86 only, but exceedingly rare outside of that arch.

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd shutdown vs ostree

2013-09-14 Thread Koen Kooi
Op 13 sep. 2013, om 00:31 heeft Jan Alexander Steffens jan.steff...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven: On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net wrote: I think the really late shutdown logs should more liekly end up in some EFI var and then flushed out on

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd shutdown vs ostree

2013-09-14 Thread Jan Alexander Steffens
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Koen Kooi k...@dominion.thruhere.net wrote: Please keep in mind that pstore is x86 only. EFI isn't x86 only, but exceedingly rare outside of that arch. What? Pstore itself isn't. It's a generic interface to persistent platform storage. There are backends using

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd shutdown vs ostree

2013-09-13 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 13/09/13 00:02 did gyre and gimble: On Thu, 12.09.13 23:31, Colin Guthrie (gm...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 12/09/13 21:51 did gyre and gimble: On Thu, 12.09.13 21:27, Colin Guthrie (gm...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote:

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd shutdown vs ostree

2013-09-13 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 08:50:06AM +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 13/09/13 00:02 did gyre and gimble: On Thu, 12.09.13 23:31, Colin Guthrie (gm...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 12/09/13 21:51 did gyre and gimble:

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd shutdown vs ostree

2013-09-13 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek at 13/09/13 16:33 did gyre and gimble: On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 08:50:06AM +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 13/09/13 00:02 did gyre and gimble: On Thu, 12.09.13 23:31, Colin Guthrie (gm...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote:

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd shutdown vs ostree

2013-09-13 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 04:48:37PM +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek at 13/09/13 16:33 did gyre and gimble: On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 08:50:06AM +0100, Colin Guthrie wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 13/09/13 00:02 did gyre and gimble:

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd shutdown vs ostree

2013-09-12 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 12/09/13 17:43 did gyre and gimble: On Sat, 20.07.13 18:50, Colin Walters (walt...@verbum.org) wrote: Heya, So OSTree sets up systemd inside a chroot - /usr is a read-only bind mount, and /var is a bind mount outside the root to a shared location.

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd shutdown vs ostree

2013-09-12 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 12.09.13 21:27, Colin Guthrie (gm...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote: So, as mentioned in the other thread, /usr should probably be on some OS resource blacklist or so, and not attempted to be shutdown. But unmounting /var during shutdown should actually work. The only thing that

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd shutdown vs ostree

2013-09-12 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sat, 20.07.13 18:50, Colin Walters (walt...@verbum.org) wrote: Heya, So OSTree sets up systemd inside a chroot - /usr is a read-only bind mount, and /var is a bind mount outside the root to a shared location. Furthermore, /sysroot points to the real root. Since last time we discussed

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd shutdown vs ostree

2013-09-12 Thread Jan Alexander Steffens
On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net wrote: I think the really late shutdown logs should more liekly end up in some EFI var and then flushed out on next boot or so... That sounds good. Maybe use the pstore system? A service could then read that data into

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd shutdown vs ostree

2013-09-12 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 12/09/13 21:51 did gyre and gimble: On Thu, 12.09.13 21:27, Colin Guthrie (gm...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote: So, as mentioned in the other thread, /usr should probably be on some OS resource blacklist or so, and not attempted to be shutdown. But

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd shutdown vs ostree

2013-09-12 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 13.09.13 00:31, Jan Alexander Steffens (jan.steff...@gmail.com) wrote: On Thu, Sep 12, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net wrote: I think the really late shutdown logs should more liekly end up in some EFI var and then flushed out on next boot or so...

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd shutdown vs ostree

2013-09-12 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 12.09.13 23:31, Colin Guthrie (gm...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Lennart Poettering at 12/09/13 21:51 did gyre and gimble: On Thu, 12.09.13 21:27, Colin Guthrie (gm...@colin.guthr.ie) wrote: So, as mentioned in the other thread, /usr should probably be on some OS

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd shutdown vs ostree

2013-07-24 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Colin Walters at 20/07/13 23:50 did gyre and gimble: So OSTree sets up systemd inside a chroot - /usr is a read-only bind mount, and /var is a bind mount outside the root to a shared location. Furthermore, /sysroot points to the real root. Since last time we discussed

Re: [systemd-devel] systemd shutdown vs ostree

2013-07-24 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 06:50:13PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: So OSTree sets up systemd inside a chroot - /usr is a read-only bind mount, and /var is a bind mount outside the root to a shared location. Furthermore, /sysroot points to the real root. Since last time we discussed this:

[systemd-devel] systemd shutdown vs ostree

2013-07-20 Thread Colin Walters
So OSTree sets up systemd inside a chroot - /usr is a read-only bind mount, and /var is a bind mount outside the root to a shared location. Furthermore, /sysroot points to the real root. Since last time we discussed this: