Re: [systemd-devel] udev database backwards compatibility guarantees

2014-10-27 Thread Kay Sievers
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Mon, 27.10.14 14:43, Kay Sievers (k...@vrfy.org) wrote: > >> On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Alexander Larsson wrote: >> > On lör, 2014-10-25 at 13:45 +0200, Kay Sievers wrote: >> >> > Kay, any ideas on the udev database stability?

Re: [systemd-devel] udev database backwards compatibility guarantees

2014-10-27 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 27.10.14 14:43, Kay Sievers (k...@vrfy.org) wrote: > On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Alexander Larsson wrote: > > On lör, 2014-10-25 at 13:45 +0200, Kay Sievers wrote: > >> > Kay, any ideas on the udev database stability? > >> > >> No stability. And so far no guarantees that things will

Re: [systemd-devel] udev database backwards compatibility guarantees

2014-10-27 Thread Kay Sievers
On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Alexander Larsson wrote: > On lör, 2014-10-25 at 13:45 +0200, Kay Sievers wrote: >> > Kay, any ideas on the udev database stability? >> >> No stability. And so far no guarantees that things will not change. >> >> The versions of the udev daemon, libudev and the run

Re: [systemd-devel] udev database backwards compatibility guarantees

2014-10-27 Thread Alexander Larsson
On lör, 2014-10-25 at 13:45 +0200, Kay Sievers wrote: > > Kay, any ideas on the udev database stability? > > No stability. And so far no guarantees that things will not change. > > The versions of the udev daemon, libudev and the runtime data must > match. Any expectations about version mix and m

Re: [systemd-devel] udev database backwards compatibility guarantees

2014-10-25 Thread Kay Sievers
On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Thu, 11.09.14 10:49, Alexander Larsson (al...@redhat.com) wrote: > >> Hi, I'm looking at creating a runtime/app thing for Gnome in the style >> of: >> http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html >> >> Ho

Re: [systemd-devel] udev database backwards compatibility guarantees

2014-10-24 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 22.10.14 13:36, David Herrmann (dh.herrm...@gmail.com) wrote: > Hi > > On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Lennart Poettering > wrote: > > On Thu, 11.09.14 10:49, Alexander Larsson (al...@redhat.com) wrote: > > > >> Hi, I'm looking at creating a runtime/app thing for Gnome in the style > >>

Re: [systemd-devel] udev database backwards compatibility guarantees

2014-10-24 Thread David Herrmann
Hi On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Thu, 11.09.14 10:49, Alexander Larsson (al...@redhat.com) wrote: > >> Hi, I'm looking at creating a runtime/app thing for Gnome in the style >> of: >> http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html >> >

Re: [systemd-devel] udev database backwards compatibility guarantees

2014-10-22 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 11.09.14 10:49, Alexander Larsson (al...@redhat.com) wrote: > Hi, I'm looking at creating a runtime/app thing for Gnome in the style > of: > http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html > > However, I noticed that some core dependencies like mesa uses libudev

[systemd-devel] udev database backwards compatibility guarantees

2014-09-11 Thread Alexander Larsson
Hi, I'm looking at creating a runtime/app thing for Gnome in the style of: http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html However, I noticed that some core dependencies like mesa uses libudev. And in fact, needs user-set additional info not in sysfs. In particular, it r