Re: [systemd-devel] when will mount / df get fixed?

2012-10-10 Thread Marti Raudsepp
On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Jan Engelhardt jeng...@inai.de wrote: and how they should do this after the change that there is no flag? dispaly a RANDOM line? That is a possibility. Based upon that you are only interested in the device anyway, I conclude the mountpoint is irrelevant. I

Re: [systemd-devel] when will mount / df get fixed?

2012-10-10 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 10.10.2012 11:48, schrieb Marti Raudsepp: Why not just collect all the relevant mount points on one line, for each disk? This way we don't throw away any information, but prevent repeating redundant information that's always the same for each disk. Using the original example this would

Re: [systemd-devel] when will mount / df get fixed?

2012-10-10 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 10.10.12 12:48, Marti Raudsepp (ma...@juffo.org) wrote: On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Jan Engelhardt jeng...@inai.de wrote: and how they should do this after the change that there is no flag? dispaly a RANDOM line? That is a possibility. Based upon that you are only interested

Re: [systemd-devel] when will mount / df get fixed?

2012-10-10 Thread microcai
2012/10/11 Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net: On Wed, 10.10.12 12:48, Marti Raudsepp (ma...@juffo.org) wrote: On Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Jan Engelhardt jeng...@inai.de wrote: and how they should do this after the change that there is no flag? dispaly a RANDOM line? That is a

Re: [systemd-devel] when will mount / df get fixed?

2012-10-02 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Oct 02, 2012 at 02:00:20AM +0200, Marius Tolzmann wrote: Hi.. On 01.10.2012 20:32, Reindl Harald wrote: and how they should do this after the change that there is no flag? dispaly a RANDOM line? That is a possibility. Based upon that you are only interested in the device

Re: [systemd-devel] when will mount / df get fixed?

2012-10-02 Thread Marius Tolzmann
Hi.. On 10/02/12 10:11, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: filesystem size mounted on /mnt/whatever xxx /wherever now instead displaying it as /mnt/whatever it just displays as /dev/sdb3 .. Which is in fact not nice, but hey, it works. This is not as nice, but actually more

Re: [systemd-devel] when will mount / df get fixed?

2012-10-02 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sat, 29.09.12 18:28, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: Reindl, there is really no need to word your questions the way you are doing. I will ban you from this mailing list if you don't stop being so dramatic and insulting. The simple fact is that systemd was merely the messenger

Re: [systemd-devel] when will mount / df get fixed?

2012-10-02 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Reindl Harald Am 02.10.2012 16:13, schrieb Lennart Poettering: On Sat, 29.09.12 18:28, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: there is really no need to word your questions the way you are doing. I will ban you from this mailing list if you don't stop being so dramatic and

Re: [systemd-devel] when will mount / df get fixed?

2012-10-02 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 02.10.2012 19:26, schrieb Tollef Fog Heen: To me it appears that the right fix is to patch df to coalesce the lines of the various mount points of the same backing fs. it should just show them as the rightmost column, comma separated, and if there are too many, it should just allipsize

Re: [systemd-devel] when will mount / df get fixed?

2012-10-01 Thread Karel Zak
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 07:36:54PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: you missunderstood me that all mount are in the output is OK BUT all the years there was a hint taht it is a bind-mount since systemd/F15 there is no difference There is no difference. The bind is an operation, not a special

Re: [systemd-devel] when will mount / df get fixed?

2012-10-01 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 01.10.2012 13:29, schrieb Karel Zak: On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 07:36:54PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: There is no difference. The bind is an operation, not a special state of any mountpoint. Nowhere in the system is information that the mountpoint has been created by bind -- the kernel

Re: [systemd-devel] when will mount / df get fixed?

2012-10-01 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Saturday 2012-09-29 22:21, Reindl Harald wrote: What is the actual problem? That `df` no longer shows only user-initiated mounts? df (1p) - report free disk space damned - i have ONE /dev/md2 if i want to list mounts i typ mount and NOT disk free I think in that case, you

Re: [systemd-devel] when will mount / df get fixed?

2012-10-01 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 01.10.2012 14:41, schrieb Jan Engelhardt: On Saturday 2012-09-29 22:21, Reindl Harald wrote: What is the actual problem? That `df` no longer shows only user-initiated mounts? df (1p) - report free disk space damned - i have ONE /dev/md2 if i want to list mounts i typ

Re: [systemd-devel] when will mount / df get fixed?

2012-10-01 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 10/01/2012 01:10 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: and how they should do this after the change that there is no flag? dispaly a RANDOM line? Is that not something you should be discussing with them? JBG ___ systemd-devel mailing list

Re: [systemd-devel] when will mount / df get fixed?

2012-10-01 Thread Peeters Simon
so we are turning around in circles there is a bugreport from 2011-05-31 09:19:30 EDT there where many posts more than a year ago on devel-lists YOU say discuss with coreutils-people THEY say requested by systemd guys They are right in that the change was requested by systemd, because it is

Re: [systemd-devel] when will mount / df get fixed?

2012-10-01 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 01.10.2012 15:47, schrieb Peeters Simon: so we are turning around in circles there is a bugreport from 2011-05-31 09:19:30 EDT there where many posts more than a year ago on devel-lists YOU say discuss with coreutils-people THEY say requested by systemd guys They are right in that

Re: [systemd-devel] when will mount / df get fixed?

2012-10-01 Thread Peeters Simon
2012/10/1 Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net: Am 01.10.2012 15:47, schrieb Peeters Simon: so we are turning around in circles there is a bugreport from 2011-05-31 09:19:30 EDT there where many posts more than a year ago on devel-lists YOU say discuss with coreutils-people THEY say

Re: [systemd-devel] when will mount / df get fixed?

2012-10-01 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Monday 2012-10-01 15:10, Reindl Harald wrote: What is the actual problem? That `df` no longer shows only user-initiated mounts? df (1p) - report free disk space damned - i have ONE /dev/md2 if i want to list mounts i typ mount and NOT disk free I think in that case,

Re: [systemd-devel] when will mount / df get fixed?

2012-10-01 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 01.10.2012 19:22, schrieb Jan Engelhardt: On Monday 2012-10-01 15:10, Reindl Harald wrote: What is the actual problem? That `df` no longer shows only user-initiated mounts? df (1p) - report free disk space damned - i have ONE /dev/md2 if i want to list mounts i typ

Re: [systemd-devel] when will mount / df get fixed?

2012-10-01 Thread Michael Biebl
2012/10/1 Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net: and these are basic things which should be considered BEFORE any invasive change and not after the damage is done since more than a year You made your point. Can you please just leave it at that? By being an asshole about it, you are just

Re: [systemd-devel] when will mount / df get fixed?

2012-10-01 Thread Marius Tolzmann
Hi.. On 01.10.2012 20:32, Reindl Harald wrote: and how they should do this after the change that there is no flag? dispaly a RANDOM line? That is a possibility. Based upon that you are only interested in the device anyway, I conclude the mountpoint is irrelevant that makes preety no

[systemd-devel] when will mount / df get fixed?

2012-09-29 Thread Reindl Harald
will this behavior get fixed in my lifetime? the alias for df is a dirty solution over many many years you did not need to take care about a large amount of mount-binds - since systemd was introduced in Fedora 15 it is unusable guys who introduce changes in the whole system should also take care

Re: [systemd-devel] when will mount / df get fixed?

2012-09-29 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Reindl Harald at 29/09/12 17:28 did gyre and gimble: will this behavior get fixed in my lifetime? the alias for df is a dirty solution over many many years you did not need to take care about a large amount of mount-binds - since systemd was introduced in Fedora 15 it is

Re: [systemd-devel] when will mount / df get fixed?

2012-09-29 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Saturday 2012-09-29 18:28, Reindl Harald wrote: This totally idiotic bug is caused by harmless change of /etc/mtab to symlink requested by systemd guys... and solution still discussed upstream... Crossflash: Debian pretty much always had it a symlink IIRC; and on Solaris, mtab was a