Re: [systemd-devel] [PACKAGERS] rsyslog and systemd

2011-03-16 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 16.03.11 10:58, Andrey Borzenkov (arvidj...@mail.ru) wrote: > >> convinced that rsyslog.service should hook itself into syslog.target. > >> > > > > What is syslog.target then good for? > > I consider it to be more of a virtual provide for specific syslog > implementation. My look on the

Re: [systemd-devel] [PACKAGERS] rsyslog and systemd

2011-03-16 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 16.03.11 07:17, Michael Biebl (mbi...@gmail.com) wrote: > >> > Yeah, I noticed this myself already. Quite a bit of syslog output > >> > ended up in /proc/kmsg during boot because rsyslog was started rather > >> > late (via multi-user.target). > >> > Afaics, there is not explicit symlink pu

Re: [systemd-devel] [PACKAGERS] rsyslog and systemd

2011-03-16 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 9:17 AM, Michael Biebl wrote: > 2011/3/16 Lennart Poettering : >> On Sat, 12.03.11 01:14, Michael Biebl (mbi...@gmail.com) wrote: >> >>> >>> 2011/3/12 Michael Biebl : >>> > 2011/3/11 Andrey Borzenkov : >>> >> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Mike Kazantsev >>> >> wrote: >

Re: [systemd-devel] [PACKAGERS] rsyslog and systemd

2011-03-15 Thread Michael Biebl
2011/3/16 Lennart Poettering : > On Sat, 12.03.11 01:14, Michael Biebl (mbi...@gmail.com) wrote: > >> >> 2011/3/12 Michael Biebl : >> > 2011/3/11 Andrey Borzenkov : >> >> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Mike Kazantsev >> >> wrote: >> > >> >> >> >>> Btw, rsyslog.service seem to be installed into

Re: [systemd-devel] [PACKAGERS] rsyslog and systemd

2011-03-15 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sat, 12.03.11 01:14, Michael Biebl (mbi...@gmail.com) wrote: > > 2011/3/12 Michael Biebl : > > 2011/3/11 Andrey Borzenkov : > >> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Mike Kazantsev > >> wrote: > > > >> > >>> Btw, rsyslog.service seem to be installed into multi-user.target.wants, > >>> why not sy

Re: [systemd-devel] [PACKAGERS] rsyslog and systemd

2011-03-15 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sat, 12.03.11 00:15, Michael Biebl (mbi...@gmail.com) wrote: > > 2011/3/11 Andrey Borzenkov : > > On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Mike Kazantsev > > wrote: > > > > >> Btw, rsyslog.service seem to be installed into multi-user.target.wants, > >> why not syslog.target, which seem to indicate

Re: [systemd-devel] [PACKAGERS] rsyslog and systemd

2011-03-15 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 11.03.11 23:10, Mike Kazantsev (mk.frag...@gmail.com) wrote: > On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 16:55:28 +0100 > Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > On Fri, 11.03.11 09:15, Mike Kazantsev (mk.frag...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 7 Mar 2011 23:49:45 +0100 > > > Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > >

Re: [systemd-devel] [PACKAGERS] rsyslog and systemd

2011-03-11 Thread Michael Biebl
2011/3/12 Michael Biebl : > 2011/3/11 Andrey Borzenkov : >> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Mike Kazantsev wrote: > >> >>> Btw, rsyslog.service seem to be installed into multi-user.target.wants, >>> why not syslog.target, which seem to indicate the point where proper >>> syslog daemon is running

Re: [systemd-devel] [PACKAGERS] rsyslog and systemd

2011-03-11 Thread Michael Biebl
2011/3/11 Andrey Borzenkov : > On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Mike Kazantsev wrote: > >> Btw, rsyslog.service seem to be installed into multi-user.target.wants, >> why not syslog.target, which seem to indicate the point where proper >> syslog daemon is running (according to systemd.special(7))?

Re: [systemd-devel] [PACKAGERS] rsyslog and systemd

2011-03-11 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Mike Kazantsev wrote: > On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 16:55:28 +0100 > Lennart Poettering wrote: > >> On Fri, 11.03.11 09:15, Mike Kazantsev (mk.frag...@gmail.com) wrote: >> >> > On Mon, 7 Mar 2011 23:49:45 +0100 >> > Lennart Poettering wrote: >> > >> > > Heya, >> > > >> >

Re: [systemd-devel] [PACKAGERS] rsyslog and systemd

2011-03-11 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Fri, 11 Mar 2011 16:55:28 +0100 Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Fri, 11.03.11 09:15, Mike Kazantsev (mk.frag...@gmail.com) wrote: > > > On Mon, 7 Mar 2011 23:49:45 +0100 > > Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > > > Heya, > > > > > > in the past weeks a couple of folks have been asking about the

Re: [systemd-devel] [PACKAGERS] rsyslog and systemd

2011-03-11 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 11.03.11 09:39, Andrey Borzenkov (arvidj...@mail.ru) wrote: > > Both seem to equally work for me, > > Well ... without systemd-kmsg-syslogd, you rely on kernel to buffer > all data until rsyslogd is started;all datagrams beyond backlog size > (default 128) are lost. backlog is not the ri

Re: [systemd-devel] [PACKAGERS] rsyslog and systemd

2011-03-11 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 11.03.11 09:15, Mike Kazantsev (mk.frag...@gmail.com) wrote: > On Mon, 7 Mar 2011 23:49:45 +0100 > Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > Heya, > > > > in the past weeks a couple of folks have been asking about the rsyslog > > and systemd glue in systemd, and I never responded since this was s

Re: [systemd-devel] [PACKAGERS] rsyslog and systemd

2011-03-10 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 7:15 AM, Mike Kazantsev wrote: > On Mon, 7 Mar 2011 23:49:45 +0100 > Lennart Poettering wrote: > >> Heya, >> >> in the past weeks a couple of folks have been asking about the rsyslog >> and systemd glue in systemd, and I never responded since this was still >> work in prog

Re: [systemd-devel] [PACKAGERS] rsyslog and systemd

2011-03-10 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Mon, 7 Mar 2011 23:49:45 +0100 Lennart Poettering wrote: > Heya, > > in the past weeks a couple of folks have been asking about the rsyslog > and systemd glue in systemd, and I never responded since this was still > work in progress. Things should be all resolved now, so here's a > heads-up i

Re: [systemd-devel] [PACKAGERS] rsyslog and systemd

2011-03-08 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 08.03.11 23:08, Andrey Borzenkov (arvidj...@mail.ru) wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 1:49 AM, Lennart Poettering > wrote: > > Heya, > > > > in the past weeks a couple of folks have been asking about the rsyslog > > and systemd glue in systemd, and I never responded since this was still

Re: [systemd-devel] [PACKAGERS] rsyslog and systemd

2011-03-08 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 1:49 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > Heya, > > in the past weeks a couple of folks have been asking about the rsyslog > and systemd glue in systemd, and I never responded since this was still > work in progress. Things should be all resolved now, so here's a > heads-up in ho