Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Use normal English elide in place of ellipsize

2014-02-13 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
Hi Barry, I like language purity, but in this case I reluctantly have to agree that ellipsize is better. Elide is from latin elidare (to crush out), so the etymology fits perfectly. But ellipsize is just more understandable at first sight... even if it is a made up word. I'm sorry that I lead

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Use normal English elide in place of ellipsize

2014-02-05 Thread Václav Pavlín
On 4.2.2014 20:43, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Tue, 04.02.14 15:45, Barry Scott (barry.sc...@onelan.co.uk) wrote: On Tue 04 Feb 2014 19:36:34 Andrey Borzenkov wrote: В Tue, 4 Feb 2014 15:31:58 + Barry Scott barry.sc...@onelan.co.uk пишет: Change the messages output and also all

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Use normal English elide in place of ellipsize

2014-02-05 Thread David Timothy Strauss
Elided sees widespread use in the kernel and libc for locks: http://lwn.net/Articles/534758/ They're not referring to adding ellipses, though. They're talking about just removing locks. In that sense, elide and ellipsize are not synonyms. ___

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Use normal English elide in place of ellipsize

2014-02-04 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
В Tue, 4 Feb 2014 15:31:58 + Barry Scott barry.sc...@onelan.co.uk пишет: Change the messages output and also all internal function names and variables to match. As a non-native English speaker I must admit ellipsize was more understandable. I am not sure I would understand elide if it was

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Use normal English elide in place of ellipsize

2014-02-04 Thread Barry Scott
On Tue 04 Feb 2014 19:36:34 Andrey Borzenkov wrote: В Tue, 4 Feb 2014 15:31:58 + Barry Scott barry.sc...@onelan.co.uk пишет: Change the messages output and also all internal function names and variables to match. As a non-native English speaker I must admit ellipsize was more

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Use normal English elide in place of ellipsize

2014-02-04 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Andrey Borzenkov at 04/02/14 15:36 did gyre and gimble: В Tue, 4 Feb 2014 15:31:58 + Barry Scott barry.sc...@onelan.co.uk пишет: Change the messages output and also all internal function names and variables to match. As a non-native English speaker I must admit

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Use normal English elide in place of ellipsize

2014-02-04 Thread Shawn Landden
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 8:15 AM, Colin Guthrie gm...@colin.guthr.ie wrote: 'Twas brillig, and Andrey Borzenkov at 04/02/14 15:36 did gyre and gimble: В Tue, 4 Feb 2014 15:31:58 + Barry Scott barry.sc...@onelan.co.uk пишет: Change the messages output and also all internal function names

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Use normal English elide in place of ellipsize

2014-02-04 Thread Barry Scott
On Tue 04 Feb 2014 16:15:52 Colin Guthrie wrote: If we do want to describe the action taken rather than the effect, then I would use the word truncate here, rather than elide as this is really what happens now as implemented. But the output is not truncated. Here is example from my system:

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Use normal English elide in place of ellipsize

2014-02-04 Thread Colin Guthrie
'Twas brillig, and Barry Scott at 04/02/14 16:49 did gyre and gimble: On Tue 04 Feb 2014 16:15:52 Colin Guthrie wrote: If we do want to describe the action taken rather than the effect, then I would use the word truncate here, rather than elide as this is really what happens now as

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Use normal English elide in place of ellipsize

2014-02-04 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 04.02.14 15:45, Barry Scott (barry.sc...@onelan.co.uk) wrote: On Tue 04 Feb 2014 19:36:34 Andrey Borzenkov wrote: В Tue, 4 Feb 2014 15:31:58 + Barry Scott barry.sc...@onelan.co.uk пишет: Change the messages output and also all internal function names and variables to

Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] Use normal English elide in place of ellipsize

2014-02-04 Thread Jason St. John
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Barry Scott barry.sc...@onelan.co.uk wrote: On Tue 04 Feb 2014 16:15:52 Colin Guthrie wrote: If we do want to describe the action taken rather than the effect, then I would use the word truncate here, rather than elide as this is really what happens now as