Re: [systemd-devel] Drop systemd-ui

2015-04-09 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 01:47:40PM +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 07:31:31AM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: What I'm proposing is that we dropped that proof of concept since it's not being maintained, there exist better alternatives thus it's intended

Re: [systemd-devel] Drop systemd-ui

2015-04-01 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 03/31/2015 05:32 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: On Mon, 30.03.15 20:35, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson (johan...@gmail.com) wrote: Heyja Should this not be dropped and *DE write,integrate/implement an graphical frontend to systemd for themselves? It's not like this is receiving the love it needs,

Re: [systemd-devel] Drop systemd-ui

2015-03-31 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 03/31/2015 02:30 AM, Shawn Landden wrote: On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/30/2015 10:32 PM, Shawn Landden wrote: On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com wrote: Heyja Should this not be dropped

Re: [systemd-devel] Drop systemd-ui

2015-03-31 Thread Michael Laß
Am Montag, den 30.03.2015, 20:35 + schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: It's not like this is receiving the love it needs, hence I'm pretty sure nobody is using this. Is there a replacement for systemd-gnome-ask-password-agent in any desktop suite? I know at least one person using that peace of

Re: [systemd-devel] Drop systemd-ui

2015-03-31 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 07:31:31AM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: What I'm proposing is that we dropped that proof of concept since it's not being maintained, there exist better alternatives thus it's intended purpose has been fulfilled already. Agreed that it doesn't make sense to have

Re: [systemd-devel] Drop systemd-ui

2015-03-31 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 03/31/2015 01:47 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 07:31:31AM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: What I'm proposing is that we dropped that proof of concept since it's not being maintained, there exist better alternatives thus it's intended purpose has been

Re: [systemd-devel] Drop systemd-ui

2015-03-31 Thread Michael Biebl
2015-03-31 16:20 GMT+02:00 Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com: On 03/31/2015 02:09 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: 2015-03-31 15:47 GMT+02:00 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl: On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 07:31:31AM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: What I'm proposing is that we

Re: [systemd-devel] Drop systemd-ui

2015-03-31 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 03/31/2015 02:58 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: When I made the final ConsoleKit release, I added a NEWS entry, saying that this software was discontinued and pointing to the replacements. http://cgit.freedesktop.org/ConsoleKit/commit/?id=af75e100dc4d4fac2e1633aa134e40e390d38918 We could do

Re: [systemd-devel] Drop systemd-ui

2015-03-31 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 03/31/2015 02:27 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: And from the looks of it the Red Hat desktop team maintainers in Gnome seem to be expecting the Gnome users to be using Red Hat's own product cockpit to take care of that. sorry, but that's not a real replacement for systemadm. Don't want to run a

Re: [systemd-devel] Drop systemd-ui

2015-03-31 Thread Michael Biebl
2015-03-31 15:47 GMT+02:00 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl: On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 07:31:31AM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: What I'm proposing is that we dropped that proof of concept since it's not being maintained, there exist better alternatives thus it's intended

Re: [systemd-devel] Drop systemd-ui

2015-03-31 Thread Michael Biebl
When I made the final ConsoleKit release, I added a NEWS entry, saying that this software was discontinued and pointing to the replacements. http://cgit.freedesktop.org/ConsoleKit/commit/?id=af75e100dc4d4fac2e1633aa134e40e390d38918 We could do something similar for systemd-ui. That said, I think

Re: [systemd-devel] Drop systemd-ui

2015-03-31 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 03/31/2015 02:30 PM, Michael Laß wrote: Am Montag, den 30.03.2015, 20:35 + schrieb Jóhann B. Guðmundsson: It's not like this is receiving the love it needs, hence I'm pretty sure nobody is using this. Is there a replacement for systemd-gnome-ask-password-agent in any desktop suite? I

Re: [systemd-devel] Drop systemd-ui

2015-03-31 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
On 31 March 2015 at 15:08, Shawn Landden shawnland...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 12:31 AM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/31/2015 02:30 AM, Shawn Landden wrote: On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com wrote: On

Re: [systemd-devel] Drop systemd-ui

2015-03-31 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 03/31/2015 02:09 PM, Michael Biebl wrote: 2015-03-31 15:47 GMT+02:00 Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek zbys...@in.waw.pl: On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 07:31:31AM +, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: What I'm proposing is that we dropped that proof of concept since it's not being maintained, there

Re: [systemd-devel] Drop systemd-ui

2015-03-31 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 30.03.15 19:30, Shawn Landden (shawnland...@gmail.com) wrote: What do you feel is missing from systemctl show? It is only suppose to show fields that have been changed by humans (even the developer) not systemd defaults. Hmm? It supresses empty fields by default, unless you

Re: [systemd-devel] Drop systemd-ui

2015-03-31 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 30.03.15 15:32, Shawn Landden (shawnland...@gmail.com) wrote: On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com wrote: Heyja Should this not be dropped and *DE write,integrate/implement an graphical frontend to systemd for themselves? It's not like

Re: [systemd-devel] Drop systemd-ui

2015-03-31 Thread Shawn Landden
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 7:19 AM, Dimitri John Ledkov dimitri.j.led...@intel.com wrote: On 31 March 2015 at 15:08, Shawn Landden shawnland...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 12:31 AM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/31/2015 02:30 AM, Shawn Landden wrote: On

Re: [systemd-devel] Drop systemd-ui

2015-03-31 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 30.03.15 20:35, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson (johan...@gmail.com) wrote: Heyja Should this not be dropped and *DE write,integrate/implement an graphical frontend to systemd for themselves? It's not like this is receiving the love it needs, hence I'm pretty sure nobody is using this.

Re: [systemd-devel] Drop systemd-ui

2015-03-31 Thread Shawn Landden
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Lennart Poettering lenn...@poettering.net wrote: On Mon, 30.03.15 19:30, Shawn Landden (shawnland...@gmail.com) wrote: What do you feel is missing from systemctl show? It is only suppose to show fields that have been changed by humans (even the developer)

Re: [systemd-devel] Drop systemd-ui

2015-03-31 Thread Shawn Landden
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 12:31 AM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/31/2015 02:30 AM, Shawn Landden wrote: On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/30/2015 10:32 PM, Shawn Landden wrote: On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 1:35

Re: [systemd-devel] Drop systemd-ui

2015-03-30 Thread Shawn Landden
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com wrote: Heyja Should this not be dropped and *DE write,integrate/implement an graphical frontend to systemd for themselves? It's not like this is receiving the love it needs, hence I'm pretty sure nobody is using this.

Re: [systemd-devel] Drop systemd-ui

2015-03-30 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 03/30/2015 10:32 PM, Shawn Landden wrote: On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com wrote: Heyja Should this not be dropped and *DE write,integrate/implement an graphical frontend to systemd for themselves? It's not like this is receiving the love it

Re: [systemd-devel] Drop systemd-ui

2015-03-30 Thread Shawn Landden
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com wrote: On 03/30/2015 10:32 PM, Shawn Landden wrote: On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson johan...@gmail.com wrote: Heyja Should this not be dropped and *DE write,integrate/implement an graphical

Re: [systemd-devel] Drop systemd-ui

2015-03-30 Thread Andrei Borzenkov
В Mon, 30 Mar 2015 19:30:02 -0700 Shawn Landden shawnland...@gmail.com пишет: What do you feel is missing from systemctl show? It is only suppose to show fields that have been changed by humans (even the developer) not systemd defaults. From its appearance it was supposed to show current

Re: [systemd-devel] Drop systemd-ui

2015-03-30 Thread Shawn Landden
On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 8:34 PM, Andrei Borzenkov arvidj...@gmail.com wrote: В Mon, 30 Mar 2015 19:30:02 -0700 Shawn Landden shawnland...@gmail.com пишет: What do you feel is missing from systemctl show? It is only suppose to show fields that have been changed by humans (even the