Re: [systemd-devel] Running packagekitd on shutdown

2011-08-25 Thread Ludwig Nussel
Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Tue, 23.08.11 16:18, Richard Hughes (hughsi...@gmail.com) wrote: >> I'm trying to make the update experience in GNOME 3.2 much better; at >> the moment updating core services and libraries whilst everything is >> running is quite unpredictable and we really just want

Re: [systemd-devel] Running packagekitd on shutdown

2011-08-24 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 24.08.11 13:39, Bill Nottingham (nott...@redhat.com) wrote: > > r /upgrade > > > > That way we can be sure that the flag file is removed as soon as the > > root fs is writable. > > > > The rest of the earlier suggestion would stay the same. > > So, thinking about the UI of this, I'm ass

Re: [systemd-devel] Running packagekitd on shutdown

2011-08-24 Thread Bill Nottingham
Lennart Poettering (lenn...@poettering.net) said: > > very very early at boot /var might not be around yet. So maybe the > > upgrade packs should be placed somewhere in the rootfs (or in /boot? > > that might be a good idea actually if it fits...). Split-off /var is > > nothing we can get rid of,

Re: [systemd-devel] Running packagekitd on shutdown

2011-08-24 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 08/24/2011 08:32 AM, Harald Hoyer wrote: Hmm, with the initramfs moving in the direction of being able to mount /usr, we could extend it to mount the rest as well. We can see the initramfs as_the_ rescue environment, which could do the upgrade as well, without the need of doing a reboot afterw

Re: [systemd-devel] Running packagekitd on shutdown

2011-08-24 Thread Harald Hoyer
On 24.08.2011 10:08, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > On 08/24/2011 01:55 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: >> So, we want to make clear that any kind of solution that does not use a >> proper recovery partition is merely a stop gap in our eyes. > > Agreed the way forward is recovery partition which g

Re: [systemd-devel] Running packagekitd on shutdown

2011-08-24 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 08/24/2011 01:55 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote: So, we want to make clear that any kind of solution that does not use a proper recovery partition is merely a stop gap in our eyes. Agreed the way forward is recovery partition which get's created at install time and should be an opt out option

Re: [systemd-devel] Running packagekitd on shutdown

2011-08-23 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Wed, 24.08.11 02:04, Lennart Poettering (lenn...@poettering.net) wrote: > However, there are a couple of caveats: since the generators are called > very very early at boot /var might not be around yet. So maybe the > upgrade packs should be placed somewhere in the rootfs (or in /boot? > that mi

Re: [systemd-devel] Running packagekitd on shutdown

2011-08-23 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 23.08.11 16:18, Richard Hughes (hughsi...@gmail.com) wrote: > Hello list, hello again Lennart, Heya, (just a couple of ideas I already uttered on IRC, just for the sake of archiving and in case other folks are interested too..) > > I'm trying to make the update experience in GNOME 3.2 m