Hi William,
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 2:52 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> All,
>
> on source-based distros like gentoo or lfs, and on distros that do not
Don't you have the ability to split the built package in gentoo?
Lucas De Marchi
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Hi Lucas,
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:48:50AM -0300, Lucas De Marchi wrote:
> Hi William,
>
> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 2:52 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> > All,
> >
> > on source-based distros like gentoo or lfs, and on distros that do not
>
> Don't you have the ability to split the built package in
Hello Lucas,
On 14.06.2012 15:48, Lucas De Marchi wrote:
>> on source-based distros like gentoo or lfs, and on distros that do not
> Don't you have the ability to split the built package in gentoo?
I can confirm and emphasize what William already wrote - for us
source-based distros (Exherbo in my
Op 14 jun. 2012, om 10:38 heeft Wulf C. Krueger het volgende geschreven:
> Hello Lucas,
>
> On 14.06.2012 15:48, Lucas De Marchi wrote:
>>> on source-based distros like gentoo or lfs, and on distros that do not
>> Don't you have the ability to split the built package in gentoo?
>
> I can confir
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Wulf C. Krueger wrote:
> On 14.06.2012 15:48, Lucas De Marchi wrote:
>>> on source-based distros like gentoo or lfs, and on distros that do not
>> Don't you have the ability to split the built package in gentoo?
>
> I can confirm and emphasize what William already
Am Donnerstag, 14. Juni 2012, 13:40:57 schrieb Koen Kooi:
> Op 14 jun. 2012, om 10:38 heeft Wulf C. Krueger het volgende geschreven:
> > I can confirm and emphasize what William already wrote - for us
> > source-based distros
>
> I just have to ask: what are non-source based distros based on? Pixi
Hello all!
I want to play a little with systemd, but first I want to use it
in a "sandbox" user, thus I start it (as non-root) from a console with
systemd --log-level=info --default-standard-output=inherit
--default-standard-error=inherit
Unfortunately I'm unable to figure it ou
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun
wrote:
> Hello all!
>
> I want to play a little with systemd, but first I want to use it
> in a "sandbox" user, thus I start it (as non-root) from a console with
> systemd --log-level=info --default-standard-output=inherit
> --defa
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Kok, Auke-jan H
wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun
> wrote:
>> Hello all!
>>
>> I want to play a little with systemd, but first I want to use it
>> in a "sandbox" user, thus I start it (as non-root) from a console with
>>
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:29:47PM +0300, Ciprian Dorin Craciun wrote:
> Hello all!
>
> I want to play a little with systemd, but first I want to use it
> in a "sandbox" user, thus I start it (as non-root) from a console with
I'd rather suggest installing Fedora or other systemd-enabled
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun
wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Kok, Auke-jan H
> wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun
>> wrote:
>>> Hello all!
>>>
>>> I want to play a little with systemd, but first I want to use it
>>> in a "
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Malte Starostik wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 14. Juni 2012, 13:40:57 schrieb Koen Kooi:
>> Op 14 jun. 2012, om 10:38 heeft Wulf C. Krueger het volgende geschreven:
>> > I can confirm and emphasize what William already wrote - for us
>> > source-based distros
>>
>> I jus
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:54:36AM -0700, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote:
> 3. Don't provide split udev/systemd packages and stay on udev-182 (or
> whatever the version was before the split).
>
> Now, I've been involved with a source-based distro myself for almost 12
> years, and, at one point you just have
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 1:40 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:54:36AM -0700, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote:
>> 3. Don't provide split udev/systemd packages and stay on udev-182 (or
>> whatever the version was before the split).
>>
>> Now, I've been involved with a source-based distro
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:27 PM, Kok, Auke-jan H
wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun
> wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Kok, Auke-jan H
>> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun
>>> wrote:
Hello all!
I want
Hello Auke,
On 14.06.2012 23:05, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote:
> or pick mdev
Let me quote someone about mdev:
Haha, mdev, yeah right.
Have fun with that...
greg k-h
(Source: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/73627)
> Nothing prevents you from staying on udev-182 for a few
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 2:22 PM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun
wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:27 PM, Kok, Auke-jan H
> wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun
>> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Kok, Auke-jan H
>>> wrote:
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 12:29 PM,
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Wulf C. Krueger wrote:
> Hello Auke,
>
> On 14.06.2012 23:05, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote:
>> or pick mdev
>
> Let me quote someone about mdev:
>
>
> Haha, mdev, yeah right.
>
> Have fun with that...
>
> greg k-h
>
>
> (Source: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.li
Plot verb doesn't currently work b/c Cairo bug sending to stdout in python 3.
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On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 02:05:01PM -0700, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 1:40 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> > That is exactly my point. There are people in these distros who see
> > systemd as a kitchen sink they don't want. However, udev is more like
> > coreutils, which they need.
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 02:38:08PM -0700, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Wulf C. Krueger
> wrote:
> > Hello Auke,
> >
> > On 14.06.2012 23:05, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote:
> >> or pick mdev
> >
> > Let me quote someone about mdev:
> >
> >
> > Haha, mdev, yeah right.
> >
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 3:15 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 02:05:01PM -0700, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 1:40 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
>> > That is exactly my point. There are people in these distros who see
>> > systemd as a kitchen sink they don't want
Hello Auke,
I will answer your concerns as best as I can below.
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 03:35:09PM -0700, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote:
> 1) Timing. systemd+udevd just got merged. We had a huge build system
> change. Let's not change it drastically again entirely now.
From the point of view of a sourc
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 12:36 AM, Kok, Auke-jan H
wrote:
>> As such I don't see what I'm doing wrong...
>
> lots, not helped by the fact that you're not using systemd --system as pid=1.
Please don't get me wrong, but I think that if systemd "makes" me
either use it to replace my existing i
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 2:32 AM, William Hubbs wrote:
> Hello Auke,
>
> I will answer your concerns as best as I can below.
>
> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 03:35:09PM -0700, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote:
>> 1) Timing. systemd+udevd just got merged. We had a huge build system
>> change. Let's not change it d
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:24 AM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun
wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 12:36 AM, Kok, Auke-jan H
> wrote:
>>> As such I don't see what I'm doing wrong...
>>
>> lots, not helped by the fact that you're not using systemd --system as pid=1.
>
> Please don't get me wrong, but I
On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 11:26 PM, Kok, Auke-jan H
wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 2:32 AM, William Hubbs wrote:
>> Hello Auke,
>>
>> I will answer your concerns as best as I can below.
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 03:35:09PM -0700, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote:
>>> 1) Timing. systemd+udevd just got me
Hello Auke,
On 15.06.2012 06:26, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote:
> This is a design problem in ALL source based distro's (including the one
> I worked on for years) and can't be fixed by upstream. Source distro's
> should really work on doing a proper `make DESTDIR= install`
At least Gentoo and Exherbo h
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Kok, Auke-jan H
wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:24 AM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun
> wrote:
>>> I think you really don't want to try and run a systemd --user (highly
>>> experimental!) without a systemd --system (stable), that would be the
>>> world upside down, and
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 5:12 AM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun
wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Kok, Auke-jan H
> wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:24 AM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun
>> wrote:
I think you really don't want to try and run a systemd --user (highly
experimental!) without a s
Hello Auke,
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 04:26:36AM +, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 2:32 AM, William Hubbs wrote:
> > Hello Auke,
> >
> > I will answer your concerns as best as I can below.
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 03:35:09PM -0700, Kok, Auke-jan H wrote:
> >> 1) Timing.
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