Re: [systemd-devel] WISHLIST: systemd git-like CLI/ui/command interface

2012-11-23 Thread Henrik Grindal Bakken
Colin Guthrie writes: > I don't think this really applies here. The day-to-day commands are > really systemctl, journalctl and loginctl (although the last one is > likely not often used). I think it's a bit annoying that systemctl is a) so long, and b) tab-completes poorly 'sc'? -- Henrik Gr

Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd v196

2012-11-23 Thread Henrik Grindal Bakken
Thierry Reding writes: > Hi, > > Would anyone know why the latest releases no longer work on 3.1 kernels? > I tried to update from 187 to 196 today and booting the system on a > vendor kernel based on 3.1.10 no longer gets to the boot prompt. It > hangs somewhere near where it should actually be

Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd v196

2012-11-23 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 10:29:53AM +0100, Henrik Grindal Bakken wrote: > > Any ideas? > > I'm running 196 just fine on a 3.0 vendor kernel, so it's not a > universal problem. I also use getty on the serial port, with no local > modifications. > > I believe the requirement for a 3.4 (or something

Re: [systemd-devel] WISHLIST: systemd git-like CLI/ui/command interface

2012-11-23 Thread Matthew Monaco
On 11/23/2012 02:27 AM, Henrik Grindal Bakken wrote: > Colin Guthrie writes: > >> I don't think this really applies here. The day-to-day commands are >> really systemctl, journalctl and loginctl (although the last one is >> likely not often used). > > I think it's a bit annoying that systemctl i

Re: [systemd-devel] What does it take to make test-engine working again?

2012-11-23 Thread David Strauss
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Holger Freyther wrote: > Koen pointed me to a jenkins but it doesn't run make check. I have it configured right now to run "make test," which does nothing in systemd builds. I'm happy to update it to include a proper post-build test, but I'd like consensus on what

[systemd-devel] Systemd

2012-11-23 Thread David Humphreys
I am just starting to experiment with systemd. My first 'problem' is that the build process does not seem to properly obey the --prefix= directive. I get some stuff installed where I tell it with --prefix, and some other stuff installed in /usr/bin and /usr/lib. I can get around this easily enou

Re: [systemd-devel] Systemd

2012-11-23 Thread Kay Sievers
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 9:43 AM, David Humphreys wrote: > I am just starting to experiment with systemd. > > My first 'problem' is that the build process does not seem to properly > obey the --prefix= directive. > > I get some stuff installed where I tell it with --prefix, and some other > stuff i

[systemd-devel] Question about journal: how to collect log messages from various /dev/log sockets, of chrooted services

2012-11-23 Thread Mike
Hi, My distribution has many isolated services with his /dev/log are disposed within the environment of isolation, for example: /var/lib/ldap/dev/log /var/lib/openvpn/dev/log /var/spool/postfix/dev/log How to configure a journalD, which he could read such isolated sockets? Now I see only one solu

Re: [systemd-devel] What does it take to make test-engine working again?

2012-11-23 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 23.11.12 04:31, David Strauss (da...@davidstrauss.net) wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Holger Freyther wrote: > > Koen pointed me to a jenkins but it doesn't run make check. > > I have it configured right now to run "make test," which does nothing > in systemd builds. I'm ha

Re: [systemd-devel] Properly handling rngd's complex dependencies

2012-11-23 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 22.11.12 11:19, Shea Levy (s...@shealevy.com) wrote: > Hi all, > > rngd currently supports three sources of randomness to increase the > kernel's entropy pool: The hwrng device, the trusted platform module > device, and the RdRand x86 instruction. We don't want to start the > daemon when

Re: [systemd-devel] logind: multiseat without framebuffer graphic cards

2012-11-23 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 22.11.12 13:27, Thomas Bächler (tho...@archlinux.org) wrote: > For me, the major problem is that the selection of "seat master devices" > is hard-coded in logind (it selects devices of type "graphics" from > udev, [1]). Step 1 would be to move that to a udev rule: Add a > "seatmaster" tag

Re: [systemd-devel] logind: multiseat without framebuffer graphic cards

2012-11-23 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Thu, 22.11.12 23:04, Oleg Samarin (osamari...@gmail.com) wrote: > В Ср., 21/11/2012 в 20:23 +0100, Lennart Poettering пишет: > > > I think there are other ways thinkable, where we don't have to add > > explicit nvidia-compatibility switches. For example, instead of > > explicitly watching for

Re: [systemd-devel] Properly handling rngd's complex dependencies

2012-11-23 Thread Cristian Rodríguez
El 23/11/12 11:38, Lennart Poettering escribió: That said, what's the reason for having a userspace component for this at all? Why isn't all of this done inside the kernel? I mean, the kernel /dev/random stuff already has hooks into various subsystems to get entropy, it sounds trivial to also ho

Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd v196

2012-11-23 Thread Thierry Reding
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 10:29:53AM +0100, Henrik Grindal Bakken wrote: > Thierry Reding writes: > > > Hi, > > > > Would anyone know why the latest releases no longer work on 3.1 kernels? > > I tried to update from 187 to 196 today and booting the system on a > > vendor kernel based on 3.1.10 no

Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd v196

2012-11-23 Thread Thierry Reding
On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 10:41:20AM +0100, Tomasz Torcz wrote: > On Fri, Nov 23, 2012 at 10:29:53AM +0100, Henrik Grindal Bakken wrote: > > > Any ideas? > > > > I'm running 196 just fine on a 3.0 vendor kernel, so it's not a > > universal problem. I also use getty on the serial port, with no local

[systemd-devel] [PATCH] fix --full for journalctl zsh completion

2012-11-23 Thread Daniel Wallace
--- shell-completion/systemd-zsh-completion.zsh | 2 +- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-) diff --git a/shell-completion/systemd-zsh-completion.zsh b/shell-completion/systemd-zsh-completion.zsh index 7799bf6..a58f4ae 100644 --- a/shell-completion/systemd-zsh-completion.zsh +++ b/shell

[systemd-devel] udev 182 and kernel 3.6.7

2012-11-23 Thread Nelson
Currently on Slackware 14.0 and that came with udev 182 and kernel 3.2.29. Under this configuration udev works properly, specifically /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-cd.rules gets recreated if it doesn't exist and it is also USED to create certain links and dev nodes such as /dev/dvdrom. Once I m

Re: [systemd-devel] udev 182 and kernel 3.6.7

2012-11-23 Thread Jan Engelhardt
On Saturday 2012-11-24 06:08, Nelson wrote: >Currently on Slackware 14.0 and that came with udev 182 and kernel 3.2.29. > Under this configuration udev works properly, specifically >/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-cd.rules gets recreated if it doesn't exist >and it is also USED to create certain

[systemd-devel] Is unmounting of filesystem synchronized with stopping services using these filesystems?

2012-11-23 Thread Andrey Borzenkov
According to bootup(7) stopping services and unmounting of filesystems happens in parallel. Is there any sort of implicit dependencies between running services and filesystems? I do not see anything besides dependencies explicitly listed in unit files. So am I right to assume that systemd just con

Re: [systemd-devel] udev 182 and kernel 3.6.7

2012-11-23 Thread Nelson
While my issue is still with udev 182 and kernel 3.6.7, does 70-persistent-cd.rules even get USED at all if it was created beforehand with 183? On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 12:35 AM, Jan Engelhardt wrote: > > On Saturday 2012-11-24 06:08, Nelson wrote: > > >Currently on Slackware 14.0 and that came